Posted: 3/29/2017 8:35:32 PM EDT
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"Concealed means concealed", and "don't patronize the place with the no guns sign" aside - What is law when a public establishment or public event fails to provide secure storage pursuant to A.R.S. 13-3102.01? Do they have to let you enter with the firearm? If they deny entry is that unlawful? Can anyone provide links to what the law says about these situations?
13-3102. Misconduct involving weapons; defenses; classification; definitions "10. Unless specifically authorized by law, entering any public establishment or attending any public event and carrying a deadly weapon on his person after a reasonable request by the operator of the establishment or the sponsor of the event or the sponsor's agent to remove his weapon and place it in the custody of the operator of the establishment or the sponsor of the event for temporary and secure storage of the weapon pursuant to section 13-3102.01;" . . . "2. "Public establishment" means a structure, vehicle or craft that is owned, leased or operated by this state or a political subdivision of this state. 3. "Public event" means a specifically named or sponsored event of limited duration that is either conducted by a public entity or conducted by a private entity with a permit or license granted by a public entity. Public event does not include an unsponsored gathering of people in a public place." 13-3102.01. Storage of deadly weapons; definitions A. If an operator of a public establishment or a sponsor of a public event requests that a person carrying a deadly weapon remove the weapon, the operator or sponsor shall provide temporary and secure storage. The storage shall be readily accessible on entry into the establishment or event and allow for the immediate retrieval of the weapon on exit from the establishment or event. B. This section does not apply to the licensed premises of any public establishment or public event with a license issued pursuant to title 4. C. The operator of the establishment or the sponsor of the event or the employee of the operator or sponsor or the agent of the sponsor, including a public entity or public employee, is not liable for acts or omissions pursuant to this section unless the operator, sponsor, employee or agent intended to cause injury or was grossly negligent. D. For the purposes of this section, "public establishment" and "public event" have the same meanings prescribed in section 13-3102. |
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All I know is these shouldn't be allowed. And if they are good the owner of the business accountable for all damages that occur.
I'm all for not telling businesses what to do but that's not the world we live in. As it is now businesses have to make it so you're safe entering their establishment. What's different about them creating a victim zone? And I see these signs everywhere. I just went to Rawhide and they are all over the place. It's getting old. |
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All I know is these shouldn't be allowed. And if they are good the owner of the business accountable for all damages that occur. I'm all for not telling businesses what to do but that's not the world we live in. As it is now businesses have to make it so you're safe entering their establishment. What's different about them creating a victim zone? And I see these signs everywhere. I just went to Rawhide and they are all over the place. It's getting old. |
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I'm not even mentioning into private businesses or establishments on private property, but rather exactly as quoted in the law.
If a business like NCAA and the final 4 music series gets a permit to hold their concerts at a public park downtown, when they prohibit firearms at their event they must comply and provide secure storage. I really don't know if they're not, just asking the question that if a similar public event or public building didn't provide secure storage, and they refused service, it's is against the law - what happens next? This would also apply to any publicly owned building like the DMV. It's posted no guns but I've never seen a place for secure storage. |