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2/8/2016 11:37:56 AM EDT

https://youtu.be/I3Nn3zYXtLM

I haven't been able to participate in any of the group cleanups because of scheduling but I always leave with more than I brought and I usually haul away a pile like this one. If anyone has the ear of BLM, do you think they would support the idea of a rollaway dumpster left out there, paid for by volunteers, to make it easier for folks to clean up? I don't have a lot of money, but I'd pitch in a little.
2/8/2016 12:40:37 PM EDT
[#1]
People are idiots and one day they're going to cause us to loose our rights to shoot on public land. I hate people. I always try and bring back more than I left with.
2/8/2016 2:14:04 PM EDT
[#2]
Thank you for doing that. Rights can't be lost. My rights were granted by my Creator and no human being has the power to grant or revoke a right.
2/8/2016 4:55:15 PM EDT
[#3]
Logistically, to get a dumpster out there, would be near impossible.

Plus its expensive.

Frankly, short of active enforcement of dumping laws, nothing will change this behavior.

WE are our own worst enemy.

2/8/2016 6:30:41 PM EDT
[#4]
Nice idea of a rollaway dumpster left out there........problem is that the same people who leave their trash would use it as a target and it would be worthless within a few months. Ever seen the road signs/information signs out where people shoot at? They are full of bullet holes.
2/8/2016 8:02:16 PM EDT
[#5]
The dumpster would be great idea in theory, But, I would definitely bet it would be shot up.


I don't think the trashing of an un supervised area will ever stop. You could shut it down and people would still get out there and trash it.


It's a shame.
2/8/2016 9:09:31 PM EDT
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The dumpster would be great idea in theory, But, I would definitely bet it would be shot up.


I don't think the trashing of an un supervised area will ever stop. You could shut it down and people would still get out there and trash it.


It's a shame.
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Just build one out of AR500 plate.  It could be kind of a dual purpose target/trash dumpster.  It'd be pretty heavy though.
2/9/2016 12:53:35 AM EDT
[#7]
Great post bluefalcon.  Perfectly said.

Have any of you seen the absolute mess on the north side of I-10 off Watson on I think what is McDowell?  Unbelievable.
2/9/2016 10:50:20 AM EDT
[#8]
The dumpster thing, in my understanding, has been tried in the past.  Commercial users will fill it with trash hauled in from town the first fucking night.
2/9/2016 11:35:05 AM EDT
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The dumpster thing, in my understanding, has been tried in the past.  Commercial users will fill it with trash hauled in from town the first fucking night.
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I was thinking about that. Rather pay the gas than the fee at Dixileta.
2/9/2016 11:30:54 PM EDT
[#10]
I've had a "secret" desert spot for about 3 years now. It was pristine when I found it, and I left no trace whenever I went out there. Just in the last 10 months, word must have gotten out about it, and it is rapidly getting trashed.

I only shoot steel, and pack out other people's trash every time I visit it.

I feel your pain.

I have been very, very strongly considering starting a 501c3 just for the purpose of public land "range" clean up.
2/9/2016 11:34:09 PM EDT
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The dumpster would be great idea in theory, But, I would definitely bet it would be shot up.


I don't think the trashing of an un supervised area will ever stop. You could shut it down and people would still get out there and trash it.


It's a shame.
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In the Tucson area, they actually did shut down the 3 most popular spots in Reddington. When I say shut down, I mean the Forest Service threw up up a 5ft fence at all the locations, made the area impassable, and patroled it heavily. It's clean. Now people must go much, much deeper into Reddington.
2/10/2016 1:51:47 AM EDT
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The dumpster thing, in my understanding, has been tried in the past.  Commercial users will fill it with trash hauled in from town the first fucking night.
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Pff, 3 people would use it, 50 would shoot it, 5 would try and steal it, and the rest would ignore it.