Posted: 10/16/2012 7:38:01 PM EDT
Obama came right out and said in tonight's debate that he intends to reintroduce an "Assault Weapons Ban" in his next term. Who wants to bet the prices of ammo and magazines are going to go up 25%-50% over night, and you won't be able to find as much as a dust cover in stock anywhere within 72 hours?  Romney is no shining ray of hope in the 2A department but at least he won't outright pursue a new ban.
I have nowhere near the ammo, parts, and firearms that I wish I did right now, but I, for one, refuse to panic buy and make matters worse. All I can say is ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ mother fucker. |
| I just wish I hadn't sold off my AR to pay bills when I lost my job a few months ago. I've been kicking my own ass ever since then. Part of me feels the urge to run out and pick up another one, not out of fear of the AWB, but out of fear that the prices are going to skyrocket and not settle over the next 12 months even if BO doesn't get re-elected. |
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I just wish I hadn't sold off my AR to pay bills when I lost my job a few months ago. I've been kicking my own ass ever since then. Part of me feels the urge to run out and pick up another one, not out of fear of the AWB, but out of fear that the prices are going to skyrocket and not settle over the next 12 months even if BO doesn't get re-elected. A man can do as much damage or more with well aimed, steady single shots. I'm never, ever for a ban but seriously didn't care if I went without my AR for the long term. I can pop 5 rounds of .308 within an inch at a hundred in a couple seconds, I can put steady fire from 600 in a 8 inch square readily. I'm not too worried. Ride out the wave and buy when the idiots sell after spending too much. 
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I just wish I hadn't sold off my AR to pay bills when I lost my job a few months ago. I've been kicking my own ass ever since then. Part of me feels the urge to run out and pick up another one, not out of fear of the AWB, but out of fear that the prices are going to skyrocket and not settle over the next 12 months even if BO doesn't get re-elected. A man can do as much damage or more with well aimed, steady single shots. I'm never, ever for a ban but seriously didn't care if I went without my AR for the long term. I can pop 5 rounds of .308 within an inch at a hundred in a couple seconds, I can put steady fire from 600 in a 8 inch square readily. I'm not too worried. Ride out the wave and buy when the idiots sell after spending too much. LOL very true, I just have a hole in my collection and it irritates me to think that my own financial situation isn't the sole cause for it right now. |
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I just wish I hadn't sold off my AR to pay bills when I lost my job a few months ago. I've been kicking my own ass ever since then. Part of me feels the urge to run out and pick up another one, not out of fear of the AWB, but out of fear that the prices are going to skyrocket and not settle over the next 12 months even if BO doesn't get re-elected. A man can do as much damage or more with well aimed, steady single shots. I'm never, ever for a ban but seriously didn't care if I went without my AR for the long term. I can pop 5 rounds of .308 within an inch at a hundred in a couple seconds, I can put steady fire from 600 in a 8 inch square readily. I'm not too worried. Ride out the wave and buy when the idiots sell after spending too much. LOL very true, I just have a hole in my collection and it irritates me to think that my own financial situation isn't the sole cause for it right now. I could go out and buy another 10k rounds. Instead I've shot up most of them. I'm about to handload some more .308 and start loading my .338LM. What good is ammo that you never use? I can get it on the cheap when they offload it. People have stockpiled moreso in the last 2 years. If Romney is elected, in a year or 2 it'll all come down. My next purchases will be a nice ass scope and a suppressor for my .338LM. I'll probably get a suppressor for my AR while I'm at it. |
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There was a panic buying spree when Obama was elected in 2008 because people thought that there was going to be an AWB coming soon.
Never happened!!! Even if Obama gets elected again he won't get a AWB through both houses of congress. Especially with the Republicans holding the house. Your right if you think that there will be panic buying in the next couple of days. |
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Quoted: that's my new plan . I was on the buy expensive side when Obama won the first time because I realized that the first blatant communist president has just been elected and I am not prepared well enough. I dont' sell my stuff though. I plan on scooping up the deals after this bubble pops and Im not under supplied this time so no need to buy high.Quoted: Ride out the wave and buy when the idiots sell after spending too much. This is what I did last time and the time before that, and what I will do this time and next time, as well. |
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Quoted: I missed the debate tonight. So Obama has said that another assault rifle ban will be brought back if he is re-elected? Would that pass with a republican house/senate or am i missing something? said he would try. Wouldn't surprise me to see more oligarchy in action through federal agencies somehow. |
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I missed the debate tonight. So Obama has said that another assault rifle ban will be brought back if he is re-elected? Would that pass with a republican house/senate or am i missing something? As above, he said he would attempt for a 2nd AWB. Now more than ever, anybody who was planning to vote third party needs to realize it's time to put away your stupid little social experiment and vote Romney. It's in broad daylight now –– Obama WILL attempt for a second AWB, and mark my words that if it does come to pass the Democrats will not make the mistakes they made the first time. The next AWB, if it comes, will not have a sunset date and will be just as draconian, if not worse, as the California AWB. |
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I missed the debate tonight. So Obama has said that another assault rifle ban will be brought back if he is re-elected? Would that pass with a republican house/senate or am i missing something? I took what he (BO) said about another AWB as pandering to the gun grabbing, fearing, sheeple. But read the transcript for your self ( start at page 6 if gun control is your only concern ) While the above posts represent some very REAL scenarios, I don't think BO will go for them - he's not that dumb and has his eye on healthcare, welfare, and legal immigration. In the end, even if BO is re-elected CONGRESS holds the power to pass laws - all the president does is sign them. Make sure the folks we put in office know their jobs are on the line should they bargain our rights away. The 2nd Amendment clearly states SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED - keep that in mind when voting for Senators and Representatives. |
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I missed the debate tonight. So Obama has said that another assault rifle ban will be brought back if he is re-elected? Would that pass with a republican house/senate or am i missing something? I took what he (BO) said about another AWB as pandering to the gun grabbing, fearing, sheeple. But read the transcript for your self ( start at page 6 if gun control is your only concern ) While the above posts represent some very REAL scenarios, I don't think BO will go for them - he's not that dumb and has his eye on healthcare, welfare, and legal immigration. In the end, even if BO is re-elected CONGRESS holds the power to pass laws - all the president does is sign them. Make sure the folks we put in office know their jobs are on the line should they bargain our rights away. The 2nd Amendment clearly states SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED - keep that in mind when voting for Senators and Representatives. Tell me, regularAZguy, why is it that we cannot buy such foreign-made rifles as L85s, G36s, FAMAS? Why is it that we could not buy Steyr AUGs or IWI Tavors until the manufacturers of those two rifles began to produce receivers here in the US? Tell me, regularAZguy, which of the SCOTUS Justices opined which way on the Heller and McDonald rulings in the recent past, and which President appointed which Justices? It's a shame in this day and age of information and internet that there are grown men who still do not understand how our government works. |
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There was a panic buying spree when Obama was elected in 2008 because people thought that there was going to be an AWB coming soon. Never happened!!! Even if Obama gets elected again he won't get a AWB through both houses of congress. Especially with the Republicans holding the house. Your right if you think that there will be panic buying in the next couple of days. Who is to stop BO from acting unilaterally like he did with immigration? BO has already made comments to PM of Russia that whatever they were talking about needed to wait until after he was re-elected when he had more freedom. If that is the case then what is to stop him on anything else? What about Supreme Court Justice appointments? Even if an AWB did not go into effect, any justice appointments would be long lasting factors. You forget that some major wins for individual firearms rights were barely ruled in our favor. We are always at the verge of losing our freedoms and we have moved much closer since BO took office. To think otherwise is naive. |
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I missed the debate tonight. So Obama has said that another assault rifle ban will be brought back if he is re-elected? Would that pass with a republican house/senate or am i missing something? As above, he said he would attempt for a 2nd AWB. Now more than ever, anybody who was planning to vote third party needs to realize it's time to put away your stupid little social experiment and vote Romney. It's in broad daylight now –– Obama WILL attempt for a second AWB, and mark my words that if it does come to pass the Democrats will not make the mistakes they made the first time. The next AWB, if it comes, will not have a sunset date and will be just as draconian, if not worse, as the California AWB. +infinity |
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just an observation...but why when the president speaks of a "new" AWB does all the conversation shift from "MOLAN LABE" to "vote Romney"? Because it is the logical next step in preventing Obama from holding the office for 4 more years. When the options are between a Republican who *might* pass anti-gun legislation but has made no indication of it in this campaign season, and a Democrat who has specifically stated that he *will* attempt to pass a Federal AWB.... I will take the Republican every day of the week and twice on Sundays. If the Repub starts to get feisty we can deal with that when the time comes. The key now is to get the Democrat, his cabinet, and any of his chances to appoint liberal SCOTUS Justices, OUT of Washington. |
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I missed the debate tonight. So Obama has said that another assault rifle ban will be brought back if he is re-elected? Would that pass with a republican house/senate or am i missing something? I took what he (BO) said about another AWB as pandering to the gun grabbing, fearing, sheeple. But read the transcript for your self ( start at page 6 if gun control is your only concern ) While the above posts represent some very REAL scenarios, I don't think BO will go for them - he's not that dumb and has his eye on healthcare, welfare, and legal immigration. In the end, even if BO is re-elected CONGRESS holds the power to pass laws - all the president does is sign them. Make sure the folks we put in office know their jobs are on the line should they bargain our rights away. The 2nd Amendment clearly states SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED - keep that in mind when voting for Senators and Representatives. Tell me, regularAZguy, why is it that we cannot buy such foreign-made rifles as L85s, G36s, FAMAS? Why is it that we could not buy Steyr AUGs or IWI Tavors until the manufacturers of those two rifles began to produce receivers here in the US? Tell me, regularAZguy, which of the SCOTUS Justices opined which way on the Heller and McDonald rulings in the recent past, and which President appointed which Justices? It's a shame in this day and age of information and internet that there are grown men who still do not understand how our government works. I would also point out that dealers in border states (including AZ) are now required to report multiple sales of any semi-auto rifle above .22 LR to the ATF. Please note that there was no bill that passed congress requiring this, it was accomplished through unilateral regulation. Not to mention the multitude of "czars" that we now suffer under, regulating every aspect of our lives. None of them were ever vetted by congress either. No "advice and consent" needed with this administration, they just do whatever they please. And if you think it's bad now, just wait ... |
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I missed the debate tonight. So Obama has said that another assault rifle ban will be brought back if he is re-elected? Would that pass with a republican house/senate or am i missing something? I took what he (BO) said about another AWB as pandering to the gun grabbing, fearing, sheeple. But read the transcript for your self ( start at page 6 if gun control is your only concern ) While the above posts represent some very REAL scenarios, I don't think BO will go for them - he's not that dumb and has his eye on healthcare, welfare, and legal immigration. In the end, even if BO is re-elected CONGRESS holds the power to pass laws - all the president does is sign them. Make sure the folks we put in office know their jobs are on the line should they bargain our rights away. The 2nd Amendment clearly states SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED - keep that in mind when voting for Senators and Representatives. Tell me, regularAZguy, why is it that we cannot buy such foreign-made rifles as L85s, G36s, FAMAS? Why is it that we could not buy Steyr AUGs or IWI Tavors until the manufacturers of those two rifles began to produce receivers here in the US? Tell me, regularAZguy, which of the SCOTUS Justices opined which way on the Heller and McDonald rulings in the recent past, and which President appointed which Justices? It's a shame in this day and age of information and internet that there are grown men who still do not understand how our government works. I would also point out that dealers in border states (including AZ) are now required to report multiple sales of any semi-auto rifle above .22 LR to the ATF. Please note that there was no bill that passed congress requiring this, it was accomplished through unilateral regulation. Not to mention the multitude of "czars" that we now suffer under, regulating every aspect of our lives. None of them were ever vetted by congress either. No "advice and consent" needed with this administration, they just do whatever they please. And if you think it's bad now, just wait ... Correct on all points. The main idea is that the President actually has a LOT of power if he knows how to leverage it. It's rarely a happy-go-lucky system of checks and balances like they taught you in the 4th grade. 
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Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush 2, Obama have ALL shit on the Constitution and worked around and outside the system...
Congress has NO BALLS and could stop most of it...but they want to reserve that "power" for their guy. Mittens is NO different, listen to his words LAST night.... "we of course don't want to have automatic weapons" "pro-gun and anti gun folks came together" as if he still thinks the MA one was a good idea (cannot get a full video but this one has most of the exchange) http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/obama-romney-debate-gun-control––town-hall-debate-2012/2012/10/16/3f95a720-1803-11e2-9855-71f2b202721b_video.html |
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Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush 2, Obama have ALL shit on the Constitution and worked around and outside the system... Congress has NO BALLS and could stop most of it...but they want to reserve that "power" for their guy. Mittens is NO different, listen to his words LAST night.... "we of course don't want to have automatic weapons" "pro-gun and anti gun folks came together" as if he still thinks the MA one was a good idea (cannot get a full video but this one has most of the exchange)http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/obama-romney-debate-gun-control––town-hall-debate-2012/2012/10/16/3f95a720-1803-11e2-9855-71f2b202721b_video.html I shouted a "here we go" at the TV when listening to this. I had to tune out for a bit....couldn't stand the 2 vs 1 debate and Obama saying "that's not true" and no real response from Mittens. Similar tactic used by Biden vs Ryan 
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Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush 2, Obama have ALL shit on the Constitution and worked around and outside the system... Congress has NO BALLS and could stop most of it...but they want to reserve that "power" for their guy. Mittens is NO different, listen to his words LAST night.... "we of course don't want to have automatic weapons" "pro-gun and anti gun folks came together" as if he still thinks the MA one was a good idea (cannot get a full video but this one has most of the exchange) http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/obama-romney-debate-gun-control––town-hall-debate-2012/2012/10/16/3f95a720-1803-11e2-9855-71f2b202721b_video.html ^Not entirely true. You are taking his comment out of context. All Romney said was automatic weapons were already illegal, which as we all know is not entirely true - meaning banned referring to the 1986 law. He also started with this: ROMNEY: Yeah, I'm not in favor of new pieces of legislation on –– on guns and taking guns away or making certain guns illegal. We have of course...(stated above) I understand you don't like Romney but voting anything other than him right now is going to ensure Obama wins. |