Posted: 2/22/2012 5:41:16 PM EDT
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Looking for a pocket pistol.
Between the Ruger LC9 or Glock 27/26? What sayeth the hive? Of course I'm open to other suggestions. |
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LC9 is much slimmer than the Glock. I would not call the G26 or G27 a pocket pistol - even the LC9 is almost too big for that, unless you are talking cargo pocket.
I prefer my PF9. Say what you want about Kel-Tec (most of it is probably true) but my PF9 is reliable, and I run it harder than most. I considered the LC9, but after shooting several that students have brought to class, I passed because of the trigger. DualShooter's post has me re-thinking that now. |
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I considered the LC9, but after shooting several that students have brought to class, I passed because of the trigger. DualShooter's post has me re-thinking that now. My wife will hopefully be taking one of your classes soon, so you can try it out in person. The pull is much smoother and the break point is moved from the very back of the trigger guard to the mid point. |
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I borrow my wife's Ruger LCP a lot it seems. It's great for places that you just really can't carry a regular sized gun. I try to have my glock 17 on me still though when I have the LCP I just throw the 17 in a bag or briefcase. In a serious situation I wouldn't want to be stuck with just the LCP but some shit bag tries to rob a burger king or something the LCP would get the job done. edit: I saw one in Olive drab the other day too, jeeze DO WANT  |
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LC9 is much slimmer than the Glock. I would not call the G26 or G27 a pocket pistol - even the LC9 is almost too big for that, unless you are talking cargo pocket. I prefer my PF9. Say what you want about Kel-Tec (most of it is probably true) but my PF9 is reliable, and I run it harder than most. I considered the LC9, but after shooting several that students have brought to class, I passed because of the trigger. DualShooter's post has me re-thinking that now. I have carried my sig p2325 as a pocket pistol it just depends on the size of your pockets  that being said i like the keltec pf9 a little better than the lc9
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| I have a Glock 27 and it is far from a "pocket pistol". I've been looking hard at the LCP, but when the LC9 came out I liked the idea of the 9mm over the .380. Then after some hands on, I really wasen't that far awar from my G27. After that, I'm going with the LCP, I, like you, are after a small, easily concealable pistol. The G-27 is far better off in a waist holster than a pocket. |
| I'm a fan of the PF9. No lawyer features. Add a +1 grip extension and it's a whole new gun. Only thing I don't like is how it shoots a couple inches right for me at 6 yards. I think it's too much finger on the trigger, but with the trigger what it is and my huge meat hooks, what you gonna do? I also found you need to gorilla grip with with your elbow dead locked for it to cycle 147gr HP reliably. If you don't, the extractor tends to jump off the rim. 115 isn't a problem. |
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I have a nearly brand new (50 rounds through it) LC9 that my girlfriend bought and wound up not liking that I am going to be listing for sale soon for $300 cash. Basically she doesn't like the trigger, that's the only reason it's not had more rounds through it. She's too used to striker fired stuff, aka Glocks. |
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KT PF9 is crazy thin IWB with a clip, but I found it slightly too large for pocket carry due to slide length
Kahr CM9 or PM9 fits the bill and can more easily go from pocket to hip and back again, IMO Found the Kahrs to be softer shooting, and better overall quality than the KT...also Kahr can be outfitted w/tritium if that's important to you...don't believe KT can be, but it's been awhile since I checked |
| I carry a NAA .22LR revolver or a Sig P238. I love them both. Obviously the Sig is a little bigger than most sub-compacts but it conceals easily none the less. The NAA folds into its own grip and looks like a small knife when clipped to your pocket and it's totally invisible worn IWB. Whether or not you're comfortable carrying a .22LR or not is up to you, and a lot of people give me shit about it, but I know nobody has yet volunteered to let me shoot them with it to see how underpowered it is. |
| I carry an LCP as a backup gun. Trigger isn't great, but if I'm going for my LCP I'm dumping the mag into somebody at contact distance so I'm not too concerned. I do practice with it up to 10 yards and I can keep them center of mass, but it's not something I'm going to use to engage targets at 25 yards. |
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LC9 is much slimmer than the Glock. I would not call the G26 or G27 a pocket pistol - even the LC9 is almost too big for that, unless you are talking cargo pocket. I prefer my PF9. Say what you want about Kel-Tec (most of it is probably true) but my PF9 is reliable, and I run it harder than most. I considered the LC9, but after shooting several that students have brought to class, I passed because of the trigger. DualShooter's post has me re-thinking that now. I can side with Rizzo on this I picked up a PF9 for the heck of it and it's a good gun for what it is. No complaints and no problems with mine. |
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Consider this: a .22 in the hand is better than a .45 in the bush.
Now consider this: pretty much every caliber below 9mm, to include the popular .380, continues to fail penetration tests when moderate to heavy clothing is introduced, even at close distances. This is one of the few times where bullet selection and shot placement do not matter much - these small caliber rounds just flat out fail to perform. I could go on and on about all the tests done, and all the articles written by guys better than me on the topic. And keep in mind that I'm talking about torso hits here, not face shots. But I won't drag this on any further, and I'll just say this instead: I won't carry anything less than 9mm unless I have no other options whatsoever. And these days, there are plenty of options. I'll end with this quote by John_Wayne777, who has my utmost respect, from one of his posts in a thread about such things: There is a fellow out there by the name of William Aprill who has spent his adult life studying criminals as a psychologist. In one of his lectures I attended, he related that criminals have been surveyed on various things including why they commit violent crimes. One of the top responses for why they commit a violent act was a "feeling of accomplishment." Now that's abstract, so let me anchor it in reality: Stop for a moment and think about how you felt when you graduated high school...or graduated college...or got that promotion...or bought your first house...or finished that difficult project. Something difficult that took you time and effort and that challenged your abilities, the completion of which signaled to you achievement of a goal or attainment of a status you'd been hoping for over an extended period of time. Do you have that feeling in mind? Good. That's how a bad guy feels when he bashes somebody's skull in with a fucking shovel. Now I ask you, good people of ARFCOM: Is that the sort of guy you want to face with a .22? |
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I have a nearly brand new (50 rounds through it) LC9 that my girlfriend bought and wound up not liking that I am going to be listing for sale soon for $300 cash. Basically she doesn't like the trigger, that's the only reason it's not had more rounds through it. She's too used to striker fired stuff, aka Glocks. PM me when you are ready to sell, I may be interested. |
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Consider this: a .22 in the hand is better than a .45 in the bush. Now consider this: pretty much every caliber below 9mm, to include the popular .380, continues to fail penetration tests when moderate to heavy clothing is introduced, even at close distances. This is one of the few times where bullet selection and shot placement do not matter much - these small caliber rounds just flat out fail to perform. I could go on and on about all the tests done, and all the articles written by guys better than me on the topic. And keep in mind that I'm talking about torso hits here, not face shots. But I won't drag this on any further, and I'll just say this instead: I won't carry anything less than 9mm unless I have no other options whatsoever. And these days, there are plenty of options. I'll end with this quote by John_Wayne777, who has my utmost respect, from one of his posts in a thread about such things: There is a fellow out there by the name of William Aprill who has spent his adult life studying criminals as a psychologist. In one of his lectures I attended, he related that criminals have been surveyed on various things including why they commit violent crimes. One of the top responses for why they commit a violent act was a "feeling of accomplishment." Now that's abstract, so let me anchor it in reality: Stop for a moment and think about how you felt when you graduated high school...or graduated college...or got that promotion...or bought your first house...or finished that difficult project. Something difficult that took you time and effort and that challenged your abilities, the completion of which signaled to you achievement of a goal or attainment of a status you'd been hoping for over an extended period of time. Do you have that feeling in mind? Good. That's how a bad guy feels when he bashes somebody's skull in with a fucking shovel. Now I ask you, good people of ARFCOM: Is that the sort of guy you want to face with a .22? /caliber discussion! If that doesnt make you think, then nothing will. |
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If small and thin is what you are looking for, I'd suggest taking a look at the Walther PPS. That's what I use for CCW during the summer months when it hits 110 degrees. It's on the sunny side of pricey (around $650-700 new with 1 mag). But it completely vanishes when I'm rocking the shorts and t-shirt. Also if you get the right holster, it doesn't even print through your shirt when the wind is kicking. As far as reliability goes, I've ran about 1,500 rounds through it or so. Only real problem I had was "operator headspace". But it's taken everything I've fead it (with the exception of Fiocchi). Add an 8 round mag fully loaded with Golden Sabre 124 gr. +p HPs, I'd trust my life to it. |
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KT PF9 is crazy thin IWB with a clip, but I found it slightly too large for pocket carry due to slide length Kahr CM9 or PM9 fits the bill and can more easily go from pocket to hip and back again, IMO Found the Kahrs to be softer shooting, and better overall quality than the KT...also Kahr can be outfitted w/tritium if that's important to you...don't believe KT can be, but it's been awhile since I checked I've been pocket carrying a PM9 now for a few weeks, should bought this pistol years ago. I honestly can't even tell I'm carrying it. |
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LC9 is much slimmer than the Glock. I would not call the G26 or G27 a pocket pistol - even the LC9 is almost too big for that, unless you are talking cargo pocket. I prefer my PF9. Say what you want about Kel-Tec (most of it is probably true) but my PF9 is reliable, and I run it harder than most. I considered the LC9, but after shooting several that students have brought to class, I passed because of the trigger. DualShooter's post has me re-thinking that now. unless you have big pockets lol I carried a taurus millennium pro 45 acp in my pocket for awhile |
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LC9 is much slimmer than the Glock. I would not call the G26 or G27 a pocket pistol - even the LC9 is almost too big for that, unless you are talking cargo pocket. I prefer my PF9. Say what you want about Kel-Tec (most of it is probably true) but my PF9 is reliable, and I run it harder than most. I considered the LC9, but after shooting several that students have brought to class, I passed because of the trigger. DualShooter's post has me re-thinking that now. Ditto on all of this. I tried pocket carry for a G27 but it's too thick so I left it home most of the time. I love my kel-tec 9mm though. I was surprised how nice it is too shoot all things considered. |
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Quoted: I borrow my wife's Ruger LCP a lot it seems. It's great for places that you just really can't carry a regular sized gun. I try to have my glock 17 on me still though when I have the LCP I just throw the 17 in a bag or briefcase. In a serious situation I wouldn't want to be stuck with just the LCP but some shit bag tries to rob a burger king or something the LCP would get the job done. edit: I saw one in Olive drab the other day too, jeeze DO WANT http://www.compactfirearms.com/image/cache/data/Ruger%20LCP%20ODG-500x500.jpg ... Got one at the funshow yesterday from a friend. They're cute, I don't expect to shoot it. Just got it as a novelty. Liked the copper colored frame. Sometimes ya just gotta buy a gun for the heck of it.    |
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I had a LCP, and got rid of it, I didn't like the trigger pull and it sort of bit my finger on the reset. Hard to explain. I picked up a Tarus 709 9mm slim and carry it often. It is the same size as the S&W Airweight 38 my dad carries, we were comparing them last weekend.
Trigger pull on the 709 is a bit better then the LCP, but I don't get the "bite" on the reset. I also like 9mm over the 380 simply because the LCP was the only thing in 380 I owned. Some people love/hate Taurus I have had good luck with them, It is my typical CCW piece when I can carry (everyday carry is out being a teacher), but weekends and 99% of the time I leave my house outside of school hours, the 709 is with me. The Keltecs are decent too and though I didn't like it, the Centennial LCPs look sick! I wonder if they will make a centennial 10/22 or something I will actually use. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I borrow my wife's Ruger LCP a lot it seems. It's great for places that you just really can't carry a regular sized gun. I try to have my glock 17 on me still though when I have the LCP I just throw the 17 in a bag or briefcase. In a serious situation I wouldn't want to be stuck with just the LCP but some shit bag tries to rob a burger king or something the LCP would get the job done. edit: I saw one in Olive drab the other day too, jeeze DO WANT http://www.compactfirearms.com/image/cache/data/Ruger%20LCP%20ODG-500x500.jpg ... Got one at the funshow yesterday from a friend. They're cute, I don't expect to shoot it. Just got it as a novelty. Liked the copper colored frame. Sometimes ya just gotta buy a gun for the heck of it. DO WANT!!!!! |
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Quoted: Thanks to Slanky, I am now the owner of a LC9....  And, thanks to Dual Shooter, I just ordered the Galloway hammer and trigger bar.....  Also going to chop down the LCI some, pull the mag disconnect safety, and probably the manual safety as well..... Glad to help. I'm sure that will make it a much nicer pistol than stock. Had I opted to keep it, that's the route I would have gone as well. Let us know how it turns out. |
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Thanks to Slanky, I am now the owner of a LC9....
And, thanks to Dual Shooter, I just ordered the Galloway hammer and trigger bar.....
Also going to chop down the LCI some, pull the mag disconnect safety, and probably the manual safety as well..... Hit me up if you need help fitting the parts. I've disassembled and reassembled mine so many times that I think I could do it asleep. |
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I am loving my LCP even though it prints a lot more then I would like it to int he desantis holster. I saw another one though, this one http://www.midwayusa.com/product/384209/hunter-2500-pocket-holster-right-hand-ruger-lcp-leather-brown It looks like that one might hide it a bit better. |
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I am loving my LCP even though it prints a lot more then I would like it to int he desantis holster. I saw another one though, this one http://www.midwayusa.com/product/384209/hunter-2500-pocket-holster-right-hand-ruger-lcp-leather-brown It looks like that one might hide it a bit better. The Recluse holster is far superior IMHO. I carry mine every day and hides well. Even if I wear tight jeans, it prints like a smart phone. Not a gun. It is also incredibly easy to draw. 
http://www.recluseholster.com/ |
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Jesus weeps, that's an ugly gun. And that's coming from a guy who carries a Kel-Tec.
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We can call the pistol LukesPuke when he gets it.... Y'all are smoking meth. Thats a sexy little gun. Ive got it narrowed down to the Nano or a Kahr CW 45. I need to hold a nano before i decide tho. |