Posted: 11/25/2010 8:13:17 PM EDT
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My daughter is turning 18 on sunday & wants to skiy dive. Does anybody have recommendations of where to go? I was told to go to a place in Eloy a few weeks ago because they maintenance their planes where some other places do not & a place in Phoenix is known to have alot of cut-aways where Eloy does not.
I do not have any experience in this, so any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, payo72 |
I've got lots of jumps at that place in Eloy, though it's been a while. Skydive Arizona is the place. They have big twin engine otters. Nice big exit doors and get you up to 13k feet fast. On the bright side, if their maintenance sucks, she'll be wearing a chute.  I did a tandem there and was hooked.
Statistically, she's probably more likely to die driving down there. The folks there are professional (or as professional as skydivers can get) and friendly. And, for your benefit, there is a bar on site. 
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I've got lots of jumps at that place in Eloy, though it's been a while. Skydive Arizona is the place. They have big twin engine otters. Nice big exit doors and get you up to 13k feet fast. On the bright side, if their maintenance sucks, she'll be wearing a chute. I did a tandem there and was hooked.
Statistically, she's probably more likely to die driving down there. The folks there are professional (or as professional as skydivers can get) and friendly. And, for your benefit, there is a bar on site. Thanks, I will check that out. She will be tandem. I figure that the person attached to her does not want to die & would do things properly. At least I hope they would. I will definately need the bar, she is turning 18 means & wants to jump out of a plane to start her adult life! 
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Jumped several times from Skydive! Fun each and everytime! But be warned! Its a cold jump now from 13000! Brrrrrrrr +1. No naked jumps this time of year.  Unless your maybe 20 and a hard body(zero body fat) NO PERSON should ever jump nude! The wind does some really funny stuff to loose skin! ICK!!!!! |
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Jumped several times from Skydive! Fun each and everytime! But be warned! Its a cold jump now from 13000! Brrrrrrrr +1. No naked jumps this time of year. Unless your maybe 20 and a hard body(zero body fat) NO PERSON should ever jump nude! The wind does some really funny stuff to loose skin! ICK!!!!! No one looks good in free-fall. I've seen it. It's not nearly as epic as it sounds. LOL |
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Love how your skin flaps like your the guy that just lost 100 lbs. Flapping like a raped ape!  I've got an old pic I'd post, but I don't want to get banned. I pulled it off the net a decade ago, lol. It's a pretty good example of how even boobies can be ruined by naked skydiving.
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I jumped in Eloy for my 50th birthday. My daughter jumped too. I jumped just before her and as she soared past me with her shute all tangled up I heard her screaming. The guy had to cut it away and use their reserve. I'll not be jumping any more. azski http://azski.com/images/Brit_shoot-not-opening.jpg
It happens. That's why there's a reserve. I had a couple lines break on my first solo jump. I remember throwing the pilot, main opening, and looking up to see something was wrong. I thought it was line twist at first and I tried to kick it out. At some point, I saw that a couple lines were fluttering in the wind. Pulled the red handle and life got better. 
I landed a ways off the DZ. One of the AFF instructors came and got me in a truck. He asked me what happened, I told him, and as soon as we pulled up to the DZ he told me to come with him. He threw me a new rig and told me to go jump again right then. Didn't want me to go home with that in my head. It worked out pretty well. Didn't have time to dwell on it. |
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I guess it does happen every so often. The guy that jumped with her did a GREAT job. He tried his best to untangle the lines but was not able to so he went to the reserve. They were way out in the desert but he managed to get back to the landing zone and actually landed in the grass. He unharnessed my daughter and walked straight to the office. My guy stayed with me and helped me get out of the rig. All-in-all they were very professional and well trained. But like I said, once was enough for me!
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Anyone know wht the regs are on solo jumping. I have never been and want to be able to solo jump. Anyone know how many tandams you have to do before you can solo? Anyone who knows please chime in, thanks. I don't know that you need any. You can do a jump with 2 instructors holding on to you. But you have your own chute. I did 2 like that, then 5 with 1 instructor, then solo after that. |
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A bunch of these skydiving outfits (including the one in Eloy) have... questionable... maintenance practices. It's mainly due to what they're doing to the engines - up-down-up-down without a shutdown. Each engine manufacturer has different rules as to how you count them, and since it's expensive to do it the way the manufacturer wants you to (you cycle out engine parts faster) a bunch of them don't.
That said, you're wearing a chute, and most everything they use down in Eloy is a twin, and can climb with 1 engine out. Skydiving outfits are an... interesting... lot (as are cropdusters) where the good ones are good, and the bad ones are really, really bad. |
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A bunch of these skydiving outfits (including the one in Eloy) have... questionable... maintenance practices. It's mainly due to what they're doing to the engines - up-down-up-down without a shutdown. Each engine manufacturer has different rules as to how you count them, and since it's expensive to do it the way the manufacturer wants you to (you cycle out engine parts faster) a bunch of them don't. That said, you're wearing a chute, and most everything they use down in Eloy is a twin, and can climb with 1 engine out. Skydiving outfits are an... interesting... lot (as are cropdusters) where the good ones are good, and the bad ones are really, really bad. +1. To my knowledge, Skydive AZ has never had a fatality due to aircraft problems though. They haven't had that many at all in the last 6 years. And most people that die skydiving are experienced skydivers "stunting". In fact, Skydive AZ banned swooping because lots of people were getting hurt or killed trying it. |
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My daughter is turning 18 on sunday & wants to skiy dive. Does anybody have recommendations of where to go? I was told to go to a place in Eloy a few weeks ago because they maintenance their planes where some other places do not & a place in Phoenix is known to have alot of cut-aways where Eloy does not. I do not have any experience in this, so any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, payo72 Normally go older but I'll help as 18 sounds about right. Wait, what was the question?
Ah yes, I'm interested (in skydiving ya perv) so consider this a tag. I want to solo first if I can. Live life on the edge. 
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A bunch of these skydiving outfits (including the one in Eloy) have... questionable... maintenance practices. It's mainly due to what they're doing to the engines - up-down-up-down without a shutdown. Each engine manufacturer has different rules as to how you count them, and since it's expensive to do it the way the manufacturer wants you to (you cycle out engine parts faster) a bunch of them don't. That said, you're wearing a chute, and most everything they use down in Eloy is a twin, and can climb with 1 engine out. Skydiving outfits are an... interesting... lot (as are cropdusters) where the good ones are good, and the bad ones are really, really bad. Its called Cycles! As a 20 year vet of overhauling turbine engines I am very familiar with the TPE331's on some of their aircraft. A cycle is normally counted as take off full power event! In other words wheels up full power= 1 cycle. So if you keep the engines running and take off and land 15 times in a day and only fly 5 hours it would be 5 hrs eng time and 15 cycles. And yes Cycles count big time for a overhaul! Engines are cycle limited so you get say 3000 cycles before overhaul as a example. should say hours count also. But it is the cycle count that matters! Whats hard on them is shock cooling! Thats going to 13000 at power and then cutting power and noseing over to get to the ground as fast as possible. Its like hot temp on the eng then bam lots of cooling air! Crack, bam, tink,tink,tink. Turbines are full of exotic metals that need to cool and normalize! Or bad things happen! And yes its very easy to lie on cycle count. Against the regs! And Mfg's Lmm and Hmm rules Btw its not pretty when a 331 lets go! http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_QKkSf03VuFY/SzTw-L73pbI/AAAAAAAABgc/L3EIcyMNSPk/s400/TPE331.jpg |
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A bunch of these skydiving outfits (including the one in Eloy) have... questionable... maintenance practices. It's mainly due to what they're doing to the engines - up-down-up-down without a shutdown. Each engine manufacturer has different rules as to how you count them, and since it's expensive to do it the way the manufacturer wants you to (you cycle out engine parts faster) a bunch of them don't. That said, you're wearing a chute, and most everything they use down in Eloy is a twin, and can climb with 1 engine out. Skydiving outfits are an... interesting... lot (as are cropdusters) where the good ones are good, and the bad ones are really, really bad. Its called Cycles! As a 20 year vet of overhauling turbine engines I am very familiar with the TPE331's on some of their aircraft. A cycle is normally counted as take off full power event! In other words wheels up full power= 1 cycle. So if you keep the engines running and take off and land 15 times in a day and only fly 5 hours it would be 5 hrs eng time and 15 cycles. And yes Cycles count big time for a overhaul! Engines are cycle limited so you get say 3000 cycles before overhaul as a example. should say hours count also. But it is the cycle count that matters! Whats hard on them is shock cooling! Thats going to 13000 at power and then cutting power and noseing over to get to the ground as fast as possible. Its like hot temp on the eng then bam lots of cooling air! Crack, bam, tink,tink,tink. Turbines are full of exotic metals that need to cool and normalize! Or bad things happen! And yes its very easy to lie on cycle count. Against the regs! And Mfg's Lmm and Hmm rules Btw its not pretty when a 331 lets go! http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_QKkSf03VuFY/SzTw-L73pbI/AAAAAAAABgc/L3EIcyMNSPk/s400/TPE331.jpg I'm extremely familiar with the TPE's. I'll bet, given your username, that we've met at some point...
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