Posted: 1/5/2005 1:34:30 PM EDT
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I am going to get my first real rifle soon. I already have a 10/22 and love it, but it is time to upgrade. Here is what I am looking to do with my rifle: Target shoot at 50, 100, & 200 yds Hunt coyotes from any range I can find them TANNERITE! Here are the things I want in a Rifle: .308 Bolt (not opposed to semi) Iron Sights Here are the things I do not want in a rifle: AR-anything I won't be using this as my alter ego as a sniper super herp so it doesn't need to be a competition rifle - just need something to start with. So what should I get? |
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First , realize that target shooting with a .308 is going to get expensive. Next, I'd say don't call it hunting coyotes if you only want a .308. Call it "obliterating coyotes". Beyond that, go with a Savage. Good reputation, good out of the box shooters, good price. |
Why 20"?
I agree with the above, but man no one beats Remingtons out of the box trigger. |
Not true, the Savage accutrigger is ubergreat. I vote Savage. My savage 10fpxp shoots better than 1/2 moa right out of the box, with either match Bhills ammo or personal reloads... |
What's your trigger pull set at? I have mine set at 2# on my Model 12 |
He said he would only be shooting out to 200 yards and wanted to take it hunting. The 20" barrel makes for a nice balancing hunting piece. ............and don't let them talk you into a Savage. By the time you put it in a decent stock you'll have invested more than if you had bought a 700 VS to start with. The accutriger can't hold a candle to a tuned Remington trigger. Then you have the problems finding decent mounts and accessories for the Savage vs. the Remington. |
Yeah that makes sense... But if your really only shooting to 200, then just get a 20" AR with Iron sights. When I messed with an Accutrigger awhile ago it reminded me of the trigger on my Glock.  My LTR PWNS YOU NOOBS!! 
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Thanks for the advice guys. I'm looking at both the Savage and Remington and starting my research there. I'll obsess about it for a few weeks and then just up and get one. Although I will be checking into used guns this time as this will be my first foray in to a world that I'm sure will be expensive and wonderful.
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My Remington 700 .223 started life as a like new ADL I picked up for $275. Sold the old stock and barrel for $75. Added a Shillen barrel for $200. Barrel is cut to 20" and threaded 1/2 x 28 with a vortex flash hider. Added a new takeoff HS Precision PSS stock with BDL bottom metal for $250. Added Warne rings and mounts and a Leupold Tactical 3.5-10 and ended up with a fun plinker. I also have an old 700 PSS that I set the barrel back, cut a match chamber and blueprinted the action in. It wears a Leupold Mark 4 M3. The barrel has upwards of 4,000 rounds through it but during a recent sniper class it shot a five shot group at 300 yards measuring 1.4 inches. I can't yank the factory barrel if it continues to do that!  |
I don't own a Savage, but this is what I have heard from the majority of Savage owners. That's why I suggested it. It was my understanding that Rem 700 triggers left a lot to be desired for a while, if they're coming around again, great, but they've still got to compete with the factory dual pillar bedding offered on every Savage. End-product potential not withstanding, the Savage has the reputation of being a better out of the box shooter. |
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The factory remington trigger is extremely easy to adjust to near match quality. Who cares what it's like out of box, adjust it. The factory Savage stocks I've handled and shot are worthless. They are extremely flexible in the fore end. The McMillan would fix this at a high cost. The Choate stocks I've handled aren't worth the effort either. Savage actions and barrels are good to go. It's their stocks and triggers that suck. A Savage barreled action in a good stock with an aftermarket trigger would be fine but at that point you'll have more invested than a stock Remington VS or PSS. |
Not necessarily. I hit a 'Yote with a .375 last summer. Finger sized hole in & out. I don't think the bullet even slowed down. |
I'd guess you were using a fairly solid constructed bullet and you sure didn't hit any bone on the way through. |
Yes, and I didn't like it. I want a crisp, glass rod, single stage trigger of 2-3 pounds on my bolt rifles. The accu-trigger that I played with didn't achieve any of that except for the desired pull weight. There are good after market triggers made for the Savages. |
Well, I think its the bee's knees - so apparently, on the accu-trigger, YMMV |
#1 alter ego? #2 whats a super herp? #3 plinking and shooting coyotes with a .308, get a reloader unless your rich. #4 If the only thing you DON'T want for sure is an ar15, umm well you are aware of the name of this site,correct? |
I have one and it is a very crisp single stage (light too). Two of my friends have about the same setup and their triggers are the same. Very light and crisp. I haven't broken a glass rod since chemistry class, and I think it was only a pipet. I've never actually seen a solid glass rod before so I can't compare. |
#1 being sarcastic that I am not in need of a sniper rifle. #2 super hero - spelling error, please forgive me. look at the o and the p. they're neighbors/ #3 I might reload. I live down the street from Dillon. #4 I have shot ARs and do not like them at all. I know this site is called AR15.com...so does that mean we should delete every thread that is not about AR-15s? |