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12/5/2004 11:46:19 AM EDT
I HAVE BEEN READING A LOT OF ARTICALS STATING THAT SOME STATES ARE GOING TO PROPSE (STATE) GUN BANS; COULD THIS OR RATHER WOULD THIS HAPPEN IN ARIZONA???????
12/5/2004 12:13:18 PM EDT
[#1]
Liberals in Arizona will be proposing this in state house this year, hopefully it will go nowhere.  To many Californians moving into AZ.
12/5/2004 12:20:45 PM EDT
[#2]
Nope,
Its not from to many Californians moving to AZ.For one where did you get your info from?Just saying Californians are part of the problem is very one-minded like a true liberal.
12/5/2004 12:28:03 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Nope,
Its not from to many Californians moving to AZ.For one where did you get your info from?Just saying Californians are part of the problem is very one-minded like a true liberal.




Thanks for sharing Mr. California Man.
12/5/2004 12:30:12 PM EDT
[#4]
Anytime!
12/5/2004 1:02:09 PM EDT
[#5]
No, we will make sure this never happens.
12/5/2004 1:05:01 PM EDT
[#6]
God I hope AZ never falls under such repression
12/5/2004 1:56:13 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Nope, Its not from to many Californians moving to AZ.For one where did you get your info from?



Too many Californians have moved to Arizona...along with to many liberal Northeasterners...bringing their liberal ideas!  How do we know!?  Some of us have lived here all or most of our lives and see it everyday!!!!






Just saying Californians are part of the problem is very one-minded like a true liberal.



Your right...just blaming Californians would be less than accurate....they are only part half some of the problem!!

WTF does "one minded like a liberal mean!?"
12/5/2004 3:48:33 PM EDT
[#8]
Anything is possible but not in the UZI TRIANGLE
12/5/2004 4:05:18 PM EDT
[#9]
To answer your question what "one minded liberal meant" was to put put blame on something that has nothing to do with the fact.Ya know evertime theres a shooting the media or politicians run and say it was the gun manufactures fault,etc,etc when in reality its not.Its the idiot pulling the trigger!If you think Californians are part of your problems you have out there thats a lame excuse!IMHO
Why dont you really look at the facts on why these bills are being produced.Maybe high crime?Easy to obtain long-guns,cash and carry?Shit dont blame us,Californians love guns probably more than you do!
12/5/2004 4:27:03 PM EDT
[#10]
Easy man easyhehippie.gifhippie.gif if you californians dont like what were saying in the arizona forum stay in the  “Peoples republic of California” forum
12/5/2004 5:09:08 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
To answer your question what "one minded liberal meant" was to put put blame on something that has nothing to do with the fact.Ya know evertime theres a shooting the media or politicians run and say it was the gun manufactures fault,etc,etc when in reality its not.Its the idiot pulling the trigger!If you think Californians are part of your problems you have out there thats a lame excuse!IMHO
Why dont you really look at the facts on why these bills are being produced.Maybe high crime?Easy to obtain long-guns,cash and carry?Shit dont blame us,Californians love guns probably more than you do!



Go away.  There IS a PRK forum, ya know.
12/5/2004 5:40:32 PM EDT
[#12]
Same goes to you guys!
12/5/2004 5:45:13 PM EDT
[#13]
California eats dick!
12/5/2004 5:57:50 PM EDT
[#14]
"Someday a Comet will fall from the sky. Followed by Meteor Showers and Tidal Waves. Followed by fault lines which cannot sit still. Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits.

......one great big, festering neon distraction. I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied.

Learn to swim.

D.
AZEX
12/5/2004 6:11:40 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
To answer your question what "one minded liberal meant" was to put put blame on something that has nothing to do with the fact.Ya know evertime theres a shooting the media or politicians run and say it was the gun manufactures fault,etc,etc when in reality its not.Its the idiot pulling the trigger!If you think Californians are part of your problems you have out there thats a lame excuse!IMHO
Why don't you really look at the facts on why these bills are being produced.Maybe high crime?Easy to obtain long-guns,cash and carry?Shit don't blame us,Californians love guns probably more than you do!



Thats the attitude that got your stare in the FUBAR its in concerning firearms.

What does "Easy to obtain long-guns" have to do with anything?
12/5/2004 6:43:24 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
To answer your question what "one minded liberal meant" was to put put blame on something that has nothing to do with the fact.



Mmmmm....let's see....would this be a good example of "one minded liberal??"



Posted by realwar: If you think Californians are part of your problems you have out there thats a lame excuse!IMHO


or would this be a better example....


Posted by realwar: Why dont you really look at the facts on why these bills are being produced.Maybe high crime?Easy to obtain long-guns,cash and carry?


....maybe this would be the best example


Posted by realwar: "Californians love guns probably more than you do!


probably!?



12/5/2004 6:54:19 PM EDT
[#17]
Some of the CA guys are a little touchy, I responded to a thread at the top of the "Active Topics" list about Lever actions and if they are legal in CA with a joke, I didn't notice I was posting in the CA forum. Now there are 2 wacky guys all pissed of at me for insulting their "Glorious Republik".

Oh, and when I mentioned that I had lived in CA for awhile I was called an Easterner that had moved to CA and helped screwed it up.
12/5/2004 6:58:37 PM EDT
[#18]
I am saddened by all the liberal BS I hear around these parts from time to time.  Mostly from incompetents in dysfunction (apache) junction.  Can't say I hang around Mill Ave. all that much to hear what ASU is spewing.

Mike
12/5/2004 7:01:49 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
"Someday a Comet will fall from the sky. Followed by Meteor Showers and Tidal Waves. Followed by fault lines which cannot sit still. Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits.

......one great big, festering neon distraction. I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied.

Learn to swim.

D.
AZEX



Has anything truer ever been said about CA...

The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.



Fret for your figure and
Fret for your latte and
Fret for your lawsuit and
Fret for your hairpiece and
Fret for your prozac and
Fret for your pilot and
Fret for your contract and
Fret for your car.

It's a
Bullshit three ring circus sideshow

(and my favorite part)

Fuck L Ron Hubbard and
Fuck all his clones.
Fuck all those gun-toting
Hip gangster wannabes.

Learn to swim.

Fuck retro anything.
Fuck your tattoos.
Fuck all you junkies and
Fuck your short memory.

Learn to swim.

Fuck smiley glad-hands
With hidden agendas.
Fuck these dysfunctional,
Insecure actresses.

Learn to swim.
12/5/2004 7:16:02 PM EDT
[#20]
You guys act like a pack of wild dogs in here,haha
Anyways I'm going to end my part here so you guys can calm down.Call me whatever you think or rag on Cali more so you can rest easier tonight.
12/5/2004 7:23:50 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
You guys act like a pack of wild dogs in here,haha
Anyways I'm going to end my part here so you guys can calm down.Call me whatever you think or rag on Cali more so you can rest easier tonight.



Must not be a Tool fan.



12/5/2004 7:32:05 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
You guys act like a pack of wild dogs in here,haha
Anyways I'm going to end my part here so you guys can calm down.Call me whatever you think or rag on Cali more so you can rest easier tonight.





12/5/2004 7:42:12 PM EDT
[#23]

Fuck L Ron Hubbard and
Fuck all his clones.




Funny thing about this line is that I saw TOOL play at the big Scientology compound on Franklin & Yucca in 1991 (or about then).
12/5/2004 7:46:12 PM EDT
[#24]
ARIZONA RULS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12/5/2004 8:00:11 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
ARIZONA RULS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Damn right, the wild MFing west.
12/5/2004 8:13:46 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
You guys act like a pack of wild dogs in here,haha
Anyways I'm going to end my part here so you guys can calm down.Call me whatever you think or rag on Cali more so you can rest easier tonight.



Don't worry about the PRK folks, they are just jealous of the fact they can't keep their state free.
12/5/2004 8:51:23 PM EDT
[#27]
My opinion is that anyone who truly cares about being a gun owner wouldn't live in Kalifornia and contributre their tax dollars to the state or their labor to it's economy.

If guns/rights aren't really that important to you, and your job, family , etc. is....then stay.

I do have to say whenever friends from Kalifornia come to visit and go shooting here, they always act like slaves they were recently freed, or someone that just escaped the iron curtain.  When they leave, the first thing they talk about is coming back to visit again.

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Arizona has some of the best gun rights acitivists in the country,  and we have the most active shooting culture...purely based on shooting/self defense, not hunting like many other states.

The people proposing these bans are doing so to draw attention to themselves and make us all nervous.  

People immigrating from leftist states where gun laws are more restrictive are a problem...they move here usually for a short time (most people who move to AZ stay for less than 3 years) and want to change it more to their liking.  What's the answer to this problem?

Well all the serious gun owners moving out of Kalifornia to Arizona would probably help, but then again maybe not....
12/5/2004 9:21:21 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
California eats dick!



And Arizona swallows it...
12/5/2004 9:40:49 PM EDT
[#29]

And Arizona swallows it...



Sounds like another kalifornian...
Can't we all just get alonghippie.gifhippie.gifhippie.gifhippie.gif
12/5/2004 9:52:19 PM EDT
[#30]
if it wasnt for the shitty gun laws and shitty legislation in general, matched with the one of the most superficial bullshit cities ever(Beverly Hills and all of its celebs) then I am sure people wouldnt hate Cali so much.

I am sure people wouldnt hate it if they would pick better officials, back better activist laws that the people actually want, and pull that dead piece of flesh out between their legs that used to be their tail.

No .50BMG? I laughed when I read that shit.
12/5/2004 10:40:19 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:

And Arizona swallows it...



Sounds like another kalifornian...
Can't we all just get along



I imagine living close to the coastal beaches means you have a greater chance of getting sand in your mangina.  

Maybe they need some Vagisil?
12/5/2004 11:09:22 PM EDT
[#32]
lol thats great
12/5/2004 11:55:35 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:

And Arizona swallows it...



Sounds like another kalifornian...
Can't we all just get along



I imagine living close to the coastal beaches means you have a greater chance of getting sand in your mangina.  

Maybe they need some Vagisil?



12/6/2004 4:41:45 PM EDT
[#34]
+1 on Arizona RULES.....except for all this damn rain!

I thought we lived in the desert!  

Oh well, guess we need that sometimes too.......guess our front lawn rock gardens need water too!
12/6/2004 4:46:34 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
+1 on Arizona RULES.....except for all this damn rain!

I thought we lived in the desert!  

Oh well, guess we need that sometimes too.......guess our front lawn rock gardens need water too!




Don't jynx the rain, I'm hoping it does this at least every other week clear through the winter, and repeats for the next 5 winters in a row. This drought has done severe damage to the Quail and Grouse hunting, the javalina and deer populations have also suffered.
12/8/2004 1:52:49 AM EDT
[#36]
<------ CA refugee here in AZ to vote pro-gun and enjoy the great carry laws. Its good to finally be free.
12/8/2004 4:40:42 AM EDT
[#37]
California (Ventura) born and raised.  Love the Sierras, Owens Valley, the beach.

Used to grab out BB guns and head into the orchards to shoot birds. Nobody said shit.  Used to take .22s and plink while out camping. No big deal.

Cops used to have to see you make an actual traffic offense before pulling you over. Now, all they have to do is say "I didn't see him/her wearing a seat belt".   Now, Arizona is considering a primary seat belt law.

You used to be able to smoke in restaurants and bars.  Then the Fascisti took that away and now Arizona is considering such a move. (I don't smoke...I have asthma).

Politics there used to be fairly libertarian, then liberals took over and fucked it all up.

15 day waiting period for any gun.
No private sales w/o going through an FFL
AR-15's, etc., classified as AWs and must be registered.
No mags can be brought in over 10 rounds.
Glocks can't be sold because there are no external safety mechanisms
.50 BMGs are now on the chopping block.

I left CA in 1988 and loathe going back and, if I didn't like my family members who aren't smart enough to see they're living in a cesspool, I wouldn't.

The major pushes for the seat belt, gun and smoking legislation have come in the past 8 or so years...when many many many Californians who DID understand the shithole they're living in, left.  But htey came here, bought houses for cash, then realized that, "Shit...they don't do things like they did in California.  LooK..those folks are wearing guns.  What? You mean you allow smoking in restaurants?"

Crap like that.

As I always say, "California has, really, only one problem.  It's populated by Californians."

Californians, you can keep that state until every one of you and your freedom-robbing bretheren are pushing up daisies.
12/8/2004 4:52:00 AM EDT
[#38]
Someday the natives will take this state back and boot all of you CA born pieces of crap out.....and we'll make you take the tonks with you.

Edit: Have a nice day.
12/8/2004 5:10:01 AM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Nope,
Its not from to many Californians moving to AZ.For one where did you get your info from?Just saying Californians are part of the problem is very one-minded like a true liberal.




Thanks for sharing Mr. California Man.



When good republican voting arfcom teammembers move to AZ for freedom, don't kick them in the nuts, scooter.
12/8/2004 6:25:00 AM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:

Why don't you really look at the facts on why these bills are being produced.Maybe high crime?Easy to obtain long-guns,cash and carry?Shit don't blame us,Californians love guns probably more than you do!



Please stay in Kalifornia.  It's obvious that you do not understand freedom.  This is why we dislike Kalifornians.  All of your f#(ked up gun laws, and YOU STILL THINK THAT THEY'RE BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE.

Sheesh.
12/8/2004 10:41:20 AM EDT
[#41]
All I know is if there is a state ban imposed, I'm moving to the Republic of Texas.
12/8/2004 11:25:56 AM EDT
[#42]
I was born and raised in Glendale kali. Im glad to be out of that communist state. I hate that f@#ken state the only reason I go back is for the holidays and as soon as I get their I miss my ar's

Nothing agents the gun loven folks out their come on down just keep your bitch ass liberal neighbors out of here.


hainsawkill.gif
12/8/2004 11:58:46 AM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:
I was born and raised in Glendale kali. Im glad to be out of that communist state. I hate that f@#ken state the only reason I go back is for the holidays and as soon as I get their I miss my ar's

Nothing agents the gun loven folks out their come on down just keep your bitch ass liberal neighbors out of here.





Here's one guy who's looking to contribute to AZ's good values AS IS and leave the Cali ways behind completely. I never practiced those ways anyway - only because the repressive laws make me.

And as for REALWAR, nothing personal sir, but as one [for not much longer] Cali guy to another, I don't think you realize what you're defending and maybe you should consider STFU rather than pick a fight with AZ guys who know the real deal and DEFEND the rights and values YOU and I no longer have!
What makes you so loyal to Cali and disrespect the old ways? Your paycheck?
Schwarzenegger breathes new hope in you? Come on...AZ is the only hope for guys like us me and........you(?)

I'll see the rest of you in Arizona. Count on it. And I'll gladly help dispatch some of those Cali granolas back to where they came from if there ever comes the time. There's no other thing I would change about Arizona and all its freedoms. I completely agree with the policy of preparing AZ for the continuing liberal onslaught. I'm not paranoid - I do believe it's real.

On an almost weekly basis I hear of folks moving to Arizona with their new-found R.E. wealth and I'm safe to say that better than half of them would not actively partake in, contribute to, nor defend one iota to the state's existing laws concerning freedoms. All they want is is the "BBD", bigger, better deal -which means bigger house, more things, good job and a school that has less shooting incidents (which BTW, they blame mostly on guns). Everything else, well, they're happy just going with the flow, which is usually the wrong one, and let the authorities take care of it all for them.
Rather they just don't have a clue about the American way, not so much because they're evil dyed-in-the-wool liberals(I know there are many of those too), but because they simply were conditioned to be that way - typical Cali cow mentality of indifference, apathy towards neighbors and politics and worst of all not taking a stand for what they believe in (even for those few that really do know the U.S. Constitution).
Here in Cali, even the best of people - and there are still many - are so preocuppied with their lives trying to stay ahead of the game that they make no time for taking personal responsibility and have become comfortable letting the politicians rule over them with astonishing impunity.

Not that it doesn't happen anywhere else to some degree, but in California this sort of apathy and giving in to the rulers even on high stakes personal freedom issues has reached critical mass, and I don't see any turning back. I gave it my best, held out for some time now, but I can't hold any longer.

OK I said enough, my two cents are in.
12/8/2004 12:09:40 PM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I was born and raised in Glendale kali. Im glad to be out of that communist state. I hate that f@#ken state the only reason I go back is for the holidays and as soon as I get their I miss my ar's

Nothing agents the gun loven folks out their come on down just keep your bitch ass liberal neighbors out of here.





Here's one guy who's looking to contribute to AZ's good values AS IS and leave the Cali ways behind completely. I never practiced those ways anyway - only because the repressive laws make me.

And as for REALWAR, nothing personal sir, but as one [for not much longer] Cali guy to another, I don't think you realize what you're defending and maybe you should consider STFU rather than pick a fight with AZ guys who know the real deal and DEFEND the rights and values YOU and I no longer have!
What makes you so loyal to Cali and disrespect the old ways? Your paycheck?
Schwarzenegger breathes new hope in you? Come on...AZ is the only hope for guys like us me and........you(?)

I'll see the rest of you in Arizona. Count on it. And I'll gladly help dispatch some of those Cali granolas back to where they came from if there ever comes the time. There's no other thing I would change about Arizona and all its freedoms. I completely agree with the policy of preparing AZ for the continuing liberal onslaught. I'm not paranoid - I do believe it's real.



In which case, welcome aboard!

12/8/2004 12:30:07 PM EDT
[#45]


Here's one guy who's looking to contribute to AZ's good values AS IS and leave the Cali ways behind completely. I never practiced those ways anyway - only because the repressive laws make me.

And as for REALWAR, nothing personal sir, but as one [for not much longer] Cali guy to another, I don't think you realize what you're defending and maybe you should consider STFU rather than pick a fight with AZ guys who know the real deal and DEFEND the rights and values YOU and I no longer have!
What makes you so loyal to Cali and disrespect the old ways? Your paycheck?
Schwarzenegger breathes new hope in you? Come on...AZ is the only hope for guys like us me and........you(?)

I'll see the rest of you in Arizona. Count on it. And I'll gladly help dispatch some of those Cali granolas back to where they came from if there ever comes the time. There's no other thing I would change about Arizona and all its freedoms. I completely agree with the policy of preparing AZ for the continuing liberal onslaught. I'm not paranoid - I do believe it's real.




look me up when you get here.
12/8/2004 4:28:14 PM EDT
[#46]
M4C,
Yea I was thinking about moving to AZ not too long ago and even asked around here about where to find jobs and where to move.All I got was "stay there" from the AZ guys.Oh well lotta hipocrits around.Anyways I got all my fun toys that I will ever need but it would be nice to dip into Class 3 stuff.Right now I'm looking at buying a smaller home in Phoenix and using it for a rental.Once I get this rental all dialed ITS ON!
12/8/2004 7:36:08 PM EDT
[#47]
Realwar...
Well don't give up man, you're on the right track.  What I said was not meant to offend anyone, I just stated my position, which I feel very strongly about.
Sometimes the things we say rub others the wrong way for some reason(and I feel badly for you for getting flack) but bottom line is we all should stick together because we're all in the same boat.

Best wishes go out to you on your move. Sincerely.

M4C
12/8/2004 9:28:43 PM EDT
[#48]

I'm looking at buying a smaller home in Phoenix


I wouldn't live in Phoenix if they paid me!
Try Bullhead City or Laughlin Nv.

12/8/2004 9:37:39 PM EDT
[#49]
Phoenix sucks.
12/8/2004 9:49:22 PM EDT
[#50]
Tucson rocks though.
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