Posted: 11/5/2003 11:18:59 AM EDT
| Sorry if this has been talked about before.. cuz im asuming it has. But can someone either give me full details, or point me to a resource that would have full details on what it takes to own full auto in AZ? I know nothing about the fees, forms, and procedures but would like to know as much as possible. Any help would be great....the more the merrier....or something like that.. |
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I just obtained a FA Uzi in AZ. The first thing you need is PATIENCE. I can't stress that enough because it is a LONG process. I went throught "The Armory" in Scottsdale, AZ. They handled all of the paperwork for the out-of-state transfer and for the BATF approval process. I highly recommend using using a Class III dealer that you are comfortable with because you will be doing a lot of work with them. The process is outlined here: www.vectorarms.com/instructions/how_to_own.html
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Oh I beg to differ. It is a long and often frustrating process, but the payoff is worth it. I had perma-grin for about week after I shot it the first time. Check it out: www.members.cox.net/wbarnett12/vectoruzi01.wmv |
For the Phoenix area, it's handled by the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office. You drop off the paperwork at the Court building in d/t Phoenix along with fingerprint cards that they have to do for you ($8.00). They had a checklist to make sure you had submitted everything properly. You drop it off and then it takes about 3-4 weeks. |
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I agree there. I got my first NFA from the Armory years and years ago. It couldn't have gone smoother. Even for in-state deals I've made I've had transferred to them first. At the SAR show when I buy I have everything taken to them. One place to do paperwork, fingerprints, forms, etc. -luke |
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AzExArms in the East Valley is doing mine right now. It's going very smooth. And he is only charging me $50 for the Form 3 and Form 4 for my suppressors. It might be a different charge for a machinegun.... Sheriff Vanderpool in Pinal County signs all the forms (provided you pass the background they do on you). He's very pro-2nd Amendment.... FYI: Walgreens does passport pics for $8/2 |
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Best way to own Class III stuff is to have a corporation. No fingerprints. What would you fingerprint? No LE sign off. Corporations can't have criminal records. Paperwork goes though BATF MUCH faster as nothing has to go over to FBI for background check. If you and your buddies put your Class III stuff in the corp, you can borrow each other's stuff without the "owner" having to come along. Luck, SD |
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anyone looked into the law regarding an LLC in AZ instead of a full-blown corp? Inasmuch as AZ LLC legislation provides for the same tort protection; requires the same basic filing and disclosure proceedures with the Corporation Commission; and the IRS will, with the proper elections, treat an LLC exaclty like a corporation; it seems like it should work. Luck, SD |
 caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/circs/9th/0210318p.pdf |
OK, now my brain just hurts. |
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At first glance is does appear that you can send in a Form 1 and once approved make a new machine gun from a semi. It also sounds like once the mg is manufactured it cannot cross state lines ever. There are a bunch of unknowns here but it could be really good news. If you are thinking about making an expensive full-auto purchase you should wait and see how this plays out. |
| Understood that there are many unknowns.... but if this does stick... would i have to do the mod myself, or could i take it to a smith here in AZ and have him do it for me? again i understand taht this may not be known yet..but its the first question that comes to mind. As for not crossing state lines... its a bummer, but not that huge of a deal. If ya move, sell it in state and then do it again in whatever state you move to. Ya just couldnt take it on any trips with ya. |
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The new CLEO in Chandler will sign. I just had him sign last week. Takes about 3 days! I also know of a great Class 3 guy in Tempe who will do the transfer. He also offers CCW classes if you need one. Email me and I'll give you his name. He does a lot of work with the local FALFile guys. azski |
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Here's a short clip of my first class 3, a select-fire Smith Enterprise M14! 20 rounds full-auto Alos, here's some Tannerite going off at the Casa Grande range: gotta love that TANNERITE azski |