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6/8/2003 5:12:20 PM EDT
Are there any places in AZ that you guys know of with NFA-unfriendly CLEOs?  How is Phoenix, specifically?

I realize that the entire state may be "very friendly" but I sure don't want to move from one hoplophobic territory into another...

Is there anything else pertinent that I should know about?

Thanks
6/9/2003 12:12:10 PM EDT
[#1]
As far as I know, there are no bad CLEOs in this area.
The one you would most likely deal with in Phoenix would be Joe Arpaio, Maricopa Co.
Welcome to AZ!
Bring plenty of sunscreen, and when you get here raise a toast, for you are a free man.
6/12/2003 12:02:43 AM EDT
[#2]
 you will realize that moving here was best thing you ever did once you meet the local ARFCOM crew.
6/12/2003 6:46:07 PM EDT
[#3]
Great, thanks for the replies.  I know from experience the whole IL ARFCOM group is great and look forward to meeting up in AZ.  I also look forward to hearing a lot more full auto fire .

Do you guys in AZ shoot at pay-ranges or for free on someone's land?

I'll most likely be situated in time for the Flagstaff shoot.  Oh boy, I'm excited to get out of this state!
6/12/2003 7:17:28 PM EDT
[#4]
The first thing I would do, If I were you, is:

WALK DOWN THE STREET WITH YOUR PISTOL IN YOUR HOLSTER IN PLAIN SIGHT....  TASTE FREEDOM!

then register to vote.
6/12/2003 7:39:28 PM EDT
[#5]


 Pay ranges kinda suck for me. I don't like to be told when I have to stop firing. So I go out into the desert to shoot and there is plenty of it.

Arizona
Open carry
CCW
Full Auto
Free land to shoot on
And TANERITE
Did I say TANERITE
6/12/2003 7:39:32 PM EDT
[#6]
Where I live, I can't possess a handgun.

When I said I can't wait, I really meant it.

What's concealed carry like in AZ?  (cue view of utopia...)
6/12/2003 7:49:17 PM EDT
[#7]

 Conceal Carry  sixteen hour course about 100.00 and 50.00 for permit for four years. Renewal course about 50.00.  And since we are a open carry state. If the wind blows your shirt up, no big deal. Prohibited places for CCW- Federal, State, and City buildings, Schools, places that serve alcohol, major sporting events, places that post no firearms allowed.

Gun laws in Arizona are state wide. No city to city bullshit or county to county bullshit. Arizona only has 15 counties.
6/12/2003 7:59:10 PM EDT
[#8]
Is there a good place I can go to read up on AZ CCW / open carry?
6/12/2003 8:11:51 PM EDT
[#9]


 Order The Arizona Gun Owner's Guide by Alan Korwin  at  1-800-707-4020 www.bloomfieldpress.com

 I have that book and his Traverler's Guide of the fifty States book.
6/13/2003 1:03:12 AM EDT
[#10]
Me and my wife both took our CCW classes at Glendale Community College. You get credit for it if your interested in that, but the best part was it was taught by Jerry Mcgowan, an instructor at Gunsite. He is a super cool guy and really knows his shit. Welcome to the REAL sunshine state!
6/14/2003 7:20:57 PM EDT
[#11]
Just be careful about Indun Reservations.

They go by different rules.
6/14/2003 10:57:29 PM EDT
[#12]



 tecknical,

As soon as you get here get your Arizona driver liscense and you can register to vote at MVD. Then call Shooter's World to schedule for your CCW. It will be real hot here when you arrive. Shooter's World has classes on site and indoor range (airconditioned). Then you'll be set.
6/15/2003 12:45:23 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Where I live, I can't possess a handgun.

When I said I can't wait, I really meant it.

What's concealed carry like in AZ?  (cue view of utopia...)



If you happen to be an LEO, you don't have to take the course.
Just send in an application w/2 fingerprint cards and $50.00.
Takes about a week.
6/19/2003 11:18:54 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Are there any places in AZ that you guys know of with NFA-unfriendly CLEOs?  How is Phoenix, specifically?

I realize that the entire state may be "very friendly" but I sure don't want to move from one hoplophobic territory into another...

Is there anything else pertinent that I should know about?

Thanks



The Maricopa County Sheriff's office handles the CLEO signoff's for the Phoenix area. It's  a pretty painless process. You have to get fingerprinted on their card ($8) and they will review all of your paperwork to make sure it's complete before you leave. They are pretty efficient. Right now the signoff process is taking a little over a month.

6/21/2003 8:05:02 PM EDT
[#15]
Not to hijack the thread, but I've got about 30 days left of my sentence here in MA.The wife and I secured our apartment in Mesa (one of 2 Pitbull friendly apts in the valley) and I couldn't be happier.I lived in Phoenix 12 years ago and vacationed there for 10 days 2 years ago.Can anyone recommend a good place in Mesa for the CCW course and for shooting?
6/29/2003 10:31:04 AM EDT
[#16]
i teach ccw classes in michigan, do i have to take the az class to get a ccw there, nra personal protection class, rso, ect
6/29/2003 11:35:02 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

... Can anyone recommend a good place in Mesa for the CCW course and for shooting?




... I'm gonna be met with some resistance here, but I would go with Caswell's on between Stapley & Mesa Dr. Indoor A/C range, FATS simulator and relatively qualified instructors.
6/29/2003 1:32:06 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
Just be careful about Indun Reservations.

They go by different rules.

That's worth repeating.

KNOW where you are if you go out desert blasting.

Stay away from Injun Country.

7/3/2003 9:57:33 AM EDT
[#19]
Thanks for the answers, guys.