Posted: 9/3/2015 7:05:06 PM EDT
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I was wondering the same thing, but why not just use the SiCo trust software? Are there irregularities in OH law that make that a bad idea?
I want to get two cans and SBR a lower but all these forms, rules, and grey areas have me scared to death of the whole thing. |
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I was wondering the same thing, but why not just use the SiCo trust software? Are there irregularities in OH law that make that a bad idea? I want to get two cans and SBR a lower but all these forms, rules, and grey areas have me scared to death of the whole thing. Not sure what SiCo is, but trust templates can be dangerous for a lot of reasons. And the way some people have gotten a trust (from a gun store) would constitute the authorized practice of law |
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Quoted: Not sure what SiCo is, but trust templates can be dangerous for a lot of reasons. And the way some people have gotten a trust (from a gun store) would constitute the authorized practice of law Quoted: Quoted: I was wondering the same thing, but why not just use the SiCo trust software? Are there irregularities in OH law that make that a bad idea? I want to get two cans and SBR a lower but all these forms, rules, and grey areas have me scared to death of the whole thing. Not sure what SiCo is, but trust templates can be dangerous for a lot of reasons. And the way some people have gotten a trust (from a gun store) would constitute the authorized practice of law As for using a template. IANAL, but if you were to use the same template as a friend, who has various NFA stamps that have been approved, what's the worry? Why pay some inflated fee to a lawyer, when the template has all of the required verbiage, etc.? I ask this with sincerity, as I'm one who's looking to setup a trust, and I had planned on using a template from a friend. |
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SiCo = https://silencerco.com/ As for using a template. IANAL, but if you were to use the same template as a friend, who has various NFA stamps that have been approved, what's the worry? Why pay some inflated fee to a lawyer, when the template has all of the required verbiage, etc.? I ask this with sincerity, as I'm one who's looking to setup a trust, and I had planned on using a template from a friend. 1. Unless your friend went to a lawyer, you shouldn't trust it. Part of my job as a lawyer is to avoid problems, and then fix ones that arise. If a lawyer drafted your buddy's trust, you're on your own if it turns out bad or something unique to you goes wrong. Additionally the "required verbiage" may be different from trust to trust. You may have different concerns and situations. 2. The ATF doesn't make sure that your trust complies with state law: they only give it a very cursory glance and make sure it looks OK. I guarantee there are tons of poorly drafted trusts approved by the ATF and currently holding NFA items. 3. I doubt SiCo knows the trust law in all 50 states and each little quirk, especially if they are just slightly tweaking a Quicken trust. They're also arguably engaging in the unauthorized practice of law. That part doesn't really affect you but could seriously fuck them hard. Very hard: like starring in Weapons of Ass Destruction 8 hard. If I wire my house, I understand and accept it may burn down as I am not an electrician. If you use your own NFA trust, are you willing to risk loss of your items and many potential nights of heartburn from the ATF? |
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I'm not trying to protect the profession, just pointing out the risks. I'm not gonna shoot the messenger! But seriously, thanks. I'm strongly considering ponying up the $400 for a lawyer vs the $130 the SilencerCo product costs. Might call them first and have a candid discussion about it. When dealing with legal stuff and government agencies (ATF, FAA, etc) I operate on the idea that what you don't know can, and most definitely will hurt you. 
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