Posted: 3/3/2013 12:39:18 PM EDT
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Does any one know if the ohio mag limit that restricts mags with a capacity over 30 rds being used might get removed, is there any legislation coming up with this????
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Wouldn't hold my breath given the national dialogue. I'm frequently wrong though. Find a good deal on 40-rounders or something? I had a buddy (outside of OH) fairly new to shooting who thought about buying a beta mag and was mad he didn't after shelves went clear. I told him if he wanted to spend the money, spending the equivalent on 30-rounders was the far smarter move. I'll take ten or twenty 30-rounders over one drum any second of any day. YMMV. |
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However, you can get a license/permit from your local law enforcement to allow you to have those mags legally. I assume you mean by going NFA weapon ?? Becuase that the only way I'm aware of being legal with more than 31 (except in the 22 LR area of the law).. And its not just from your local LEO, it's BATF ( Federal). And I doubt Ohio will change there 31 max law. I think the federal law will change before any law would change here in Ohio. And thats not going to be adding round count. Kind of on the topic. but read this. http://www.twincities.com/news/ci_22704321/colo-firearm-company-spotlight-over-gun-debate?source=rss |
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I'm pretty sure you can get a "dangerous ordinance" permit or something like that from the SO - but they aren't required to hand them out so its up to them. I'm not sure if 31+ round mags fall into "Dangerous Ordinance" area. Maybe someone with more info. can comment on that. I was always told that Ohio looked at anything over 31+ as a NFA only thing. |
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http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.18 (A) Upon application to the sheriff of the county or safety director or police chief of the municipality where the applicant resides or has his principal place of business, and upon payment of the fee specified in division (B) of this section, a license or temporary permit shall be issued to qualified applicants to acquire, possess, carry, or use dangerous ordnance, for the following purposes: "Dangerous Ordnance" is defined here: http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.11 |
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Just to further clarify how I arrive at this
ORC 2923.11 (K) “Dangerous ordnance” means any of the following, except as provided in division (L) of this section: (1) Any automatic or sawed-off firearm, zip-gun, or ballistic knife; Going back up a few sections in 2923.11 finds (E) “Automatic firearm” means any firearm designed or specially adapted to fire a succession of cartridges with a single function of the trigger. “Automatic firearm” also means any semi-automatic firearm designed or specially adapted to fire more than thirty-one cartridges without reloading, other than a firearm chambering only .22 caliber short, long, or long-rifle cartridges. So, according to ORC2923.11(E), an AR15 with a 100 round beta mag is an automatic firearm, ORC2923.11(K)(1) makes an automatic firearm dangerous ordnance, and ORC2923.18(A)(5) allows for dangerous ordnance to be possessed, carried, and used by any responsible person for a proper purpose, with an approved license request. |
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Ok, so then why do we have to get anything that falls into the NFA catagory done with the BATF. If i'm ready what you posted the write way. All we would have to do is get our local LEO to say its "A Ok". And screw the BATF.
So what aim I missing??? And why aim i waiting to get my stamp threw a NFA TRUST?? I'm just wondering, And asking questions. |
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If we really presented a focused, aggressive message to the state legislature, we might be able to get this law repealed. Maybe as part of the next CCW bill?
I have to wonder what would happen if we started a petition and got a lot of signatures to present to a lawmaker. I'm not so sure we couldn't get this thing reversed. Thoughts? |
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If your really interested in trying to get the Ohio 31+ law changed. Wonder over to Buckeye Firearms.Org. That's the group that has done more for our CCW and guns rights in this state since the 1980's than anyone IMHO. Talk to Jim Irvine, He will tell you straight up if its got a chance to pass. And when would be the time to make a end run to get it passed into law.
ala the feds raiding the pot clinics in states that allow medicinal mary jane. And that I think will soon to be a thing of the past. I see a bill to be voted on here in Ohio about that subject in the next two years. For sure in four. Your looking at the FIRTS guy in Ohio that when it becomes legal to grow it. And to sell it to a dispencery like they do in Ca. I'll have a Huge green house. And I don't touch the stuff, But I see a huge market for 100% legal growers. I've been told, "If you can grow them toematters, You can grow weed". |
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If we really presented a focused, aggressive message to the state legislature, we might be able to get this law repealed. Maybe as part of the next CCW bill? I have to wonder what would happen if we started a petition and got a lot of signatures to present to a lawmaker. I'm not so sure we couldn't get this thing reversed. Thoughts? I'm ready to get behind an effort for a Stand your ground law in OH. |
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Quoted: Quoted: If we really presented a focused, aggressive message to the state legislature, we might be able to get this law repealed. Maybe as part of the next CCW bill? I have to wonder what would happen if we started a petition and got a lot of signatures to present to a lawmaker. I'm not so sure we couldn't get this thing reversed. Thoughts? I'm ready to get behind an effort for a Stand your ground law in OH. +1 |
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so if holding a stamp for a sbr you can have 31+. i know if its a machine gun beta drums are ok along with a sbr upper(ar) becase it is a machine gun Its been beat to death and there is a sticky about it. Summed up State law outlaws danderous ordinance, unless you have approval. BATFE stamp is approval, as is a dangerous ordinance permit. |
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so if holding a stamp for a sbr you can have 31+. Yes, I have a home made mag that hold 50 I think i know if its a machine gun, beta drums are ok, along with a sbr upper(ar), becase it is a machine gun Machine gun is king.. anything goes, mag capacity, barrel length.. there is no "SBR upper" for a machine gun |
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I was told, (Maybe not right, but told). Even a (legal stamped) SBR makes it legal in Ohio for 31+ in the mag dept. SBR can have any capacity mag you can stick in the firearm or a Can Nope, can is an accessory, cannot stick a mag in a can and make it go bang.. the firearm serial has to be registered NFA to get the big mag capacity I do know there is such a forum for NFA questions on this site. Yes Maybe we should ask that group of elite members. Nope,, what do people from 49 other state and off shore know about our firearm laws ? You got at least (2) NFA RKI I seen post up in this topic already that own SBR, machine gun, suppressor, that been in the business 24yr now as owner (not sure how long other fella been in the game, but he know what going on |
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If your really interested in trying to get the Ohio 31+ law changed. Wonder over to Buckeye Firearms.Org. That's the group that has done more for our CCW and guns rights in this state since the 1980's than anyone IMHO. Talk to Jim Irvine, He will tell you straight up if its got a chance to pass. And when would be the time to make a end run to get it passed into law. How do I get in contact with Jim .I went to the web site and then to contact but I didnt see any thing listed for him. thanks |