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8/26/2011 8:38:23 PM EDT
A friend and I were discussing means of transporting rifles.  He mentioned one of those Eberlestock backpacks, which apparently has an integrated rifle scabbard.  In Ohio, I realize we aren't allowed to carry concealed rifles, so I decided to look up the section in the ORC dealing with the crime of CCW.  It appears to me that the rifle, whether loaded or unloaded, is considered a "deadly weapon," and is thus illegal to carry "concealed on the person’s person or concealed ready at hand."  Given that a backpack is part of one's "person," it would seem to me, therefore, that it would be illegal to carry a rifle (or any long gun, for that matter,) in one of these backpacks unless some portion of the firearm is exposed, thus making it openly carried.  Am I correct in my assessment?

Thanks for any answers.
8/26/2011 10:32:02 PM EDT
[#1]
That sounds about right to me.
8/27/2011 5:06:14 AM EDT
[#2]
Nonsense!

By your definition putting your rifle in any case and then carrying the case would be illegal.  Something tells me the legislature did not intend this.  Backpack is no different, it's just another gun case.

–– Chuck
8/27/2011 6:51:47 AM EDT
[#3]
Hmmm...

Gun case is typical used to transport a rifle and prevent damage.

With a rifle ( I'm thinking kel-tec sub2000) in a backpack are you using it to EDC a rifle?

A gun case screams "gun" while a backpack does not.  That's the point.
8/27/2011 6:48:56 PM EDT
[#4]
The conversation was in terms of how to conveniently carry a rifle or shotgun on a camping/backpacking trip.
8/27/2011 6:52:03 PM EDT
[#5]
Carry it in a gun case or backpack.  That answer both implied and specifically given earlier.  The OP's skewed logic is confusing.  Still.

––  Chuck
8/27/2011 7:08:31 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Carry it in a gun case or backpack.  That answer both implied and specifically given earlier.  The OP's skewed logic is confusing.  Still.

––  Chuck


I posted this topic because the way the law is worded, it seemed to me that this would be a weapon concealed on the person, thus making it illegal.  I guess the real question is, what constitutes "concealed?"  With a long gun in one of those Eberlestock backpacks, it's not exactly hard to figure out what is inside.  If this isn't considered concealed, I would take it, then, that it would also be legal to carry the gun loaded in this method, or to otherwise also be carrying loaded magazines?
8/30/2011 11:56:33 AM EDT
[#7]
I think the key phrase in the law is "ready at hand".  If the firearm is loaded, or if you are carrying a loaded magazine or speedloader for it, then you'd better not conceal it unless it's covered by a concealed carry permit (which would not help with a rifle anyway).  

My guess is that a rifle protruding from a backpack would be legally equivalent to a pistol openly carried in a holster.

Just my $0.02.