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1/31/2005 1:28:12 PM EDT
You guys are depressing the shit out of me.  I am less than a month away from moving back to central Ohio after being away for four years.  I have been reading this forum to find good ranges and good gun guys to hang out with and you guys all make it sound like this is the worst possible place to live.

I'm moving to Westerville to start out so I should be ok with my evil AR-15 and LEO marked 30 round mags right?  I was all excited to get moved back and get my CCW but Ohio seems to have screwed that up also.
1/31/2005 1:44:02 PM EDT
[#1]
I can't find anything about Westerville proper, but make damn sure where you live.
A  Westerville zip code doesn't mean you live in Westerville.
1/31/2005 1:49:49 PM EDT
[#2]
I happen to love Ohio. It has its ups and downs like any other state. I think in the end life is what you make it
1/31/2005 1:56:50 PM EDT
[#3]
Don't despair.
It's OK.
We'll get the CCW law fixed.
It's brand new.
The Columbus AWB will likey only go away if court strikes it down.
1/31/2005 2:13:06 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
I can't find anything about Westerville proper, but make damn sure where you live.
A  Westerville zip code doesn't mean you live in Westerville.



Hmm, how exactly can I look into this?
1/31/2005 2:13:54 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
I happen to love Ohio. It has its ups and downs like any other state. I think in the end life is what you make it



I know.  I love Ohio too and thats why I'm moving back.  There just seems to be a lot of upset Ohioans on here.
1/31/2005 2:24:34 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I happen to love Ohio. It has its ups and downs like any other state. I think in the end life is what you make it



I know.  I love Ohio too and thats why I'm moving back.  There just seems to be a lot of upset Ohioans on here.



It's not that bad, we just like to bitch and moan alot.  This is the main sympton of a rare disease that I suffer from, it is called Lackanookie.
1/31/2005 2:31:09 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I can't find anything about Westerville proper, but make damn sure where you live.
A  Westerville zip code doesn't mean you live in Westerville.



Hmm, how exactly can I look into this?



A quick and dirty way would be to check on this map and see if the City of Columbus
provides refuse service in your area.
A better way would be to call the city and ask if you are a resident to determine whether or not you should be paying Columbus City Income Tax.

Map
http://refuse.ci.columbus.oh.us/map/mapgrid.htm
Income Tax Information
http://www.columbustax.net/
1/31/2005 3:59:12 PM EDT
[#8]
Well, even if Central Ohio is a yuppie cess pool, there's at least one cool guy living here <ahem>.

There aren't a ton of ranges in the Central Ohio area, but I belong to a good one that's about 30-40 minutes from Westerville and I also have a range here at the house and I have get togethers here from time to time so you should have ample opportunity to hang out with other black rifle fans.

1/31/2005 4:15:33 PM EDT
[#9]
I work in Westerville. Until recently it was a dry town, but that has changed.  I don't know about the gun laws, but there is a great little gun shop in downtown Westerville - Aumiller's.

Westerville is pretty much right between the 2 pistol ranges in Columbus, the Powder Room and New Albany Shooting Range.  You are about 25 minutes from the ODNR range in Delaware.

www.dnr.state.oh.us/wildlife/Shooting/granges.htm

1/31/2005 4:40:08 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Well, even if Central Ohio is a yuppie cess pool, there's at least one cool guy living here <ahem>.

There aren't a ton of ranges in the Central Ohio area, but I belong to a good one that's about 30-40 minutes from Westerville and I also have a range here at the house and I have get togethers here from time to time so you should have ample opportunity to hang out with other black rifle fans.




"<ahem> " indeed.......

More than Several "cool guys" live up h'yar in Ohiya.

rvogster,
This place is wunnerful. We got heat, cold, hyoo-mitity and ever thang else. I don't recall menny of us Buckeyes complainin' much 'bout are grate state. We a-r-e Buckeyes.  We're nuts. Proud nuts.

As quoted by others on the "WWW":

".......Here are some guidelines to assist others in understanding what it takes to be an Ohioan.


Know the state casserole. The state casserole consists of canned green beans, Campbell's cream of mushroom soup and dried onions. You can safely take this casserole to any social event and know that you will be accepted. In fact, Neil Armstrong almost took this casserole to the moon in case he encountered alien life there. NASA nixed the plan out of concern that the casserole would overburden the Apollo rocket at liftoff.

Get used to food festivals. The Ohio General Assembly, in an effort to grow bigger offensive linemen, passed legislation years ago requiring every incorporated community to have at least one festival per year dedicated to a high-fat food. Thus, Sugarcreek honors Swiss cheese, Bucyrus has a bratwurst celebration and Gahanna, seeking an edge over other towns, has recently introduced the Triglyceride and Low-density Lipoprotein Festival. It is your duty as an Ohioan to attend these festivals and at least buy an elephant ear.

Know the geography. Of Florida, I mean. I've run into Ohioans who couldn't tell you where Toledo is but they know the exact distance from Fort Myers to Bonita Springs. That's because all Ohioans go to Florida in the winter. Or plan to when they retire. Or are related to retired Ohioans who have a place in Sarasota. We consider Florida to be the Lower Peninsula of Ohio.

If you can't afford to spend the winter in Florida, use the state excuse, which is that you stay here because you enjoy the change of season. You'll be lying, but that's OK. We've all done it.

Speaking of Ohio weather, wear layers or die. The thing to remember about Ohio seasons is that they can occur at anytime. We have spring like days in January and wintry weekends in October. April is capable of providing a sampling of all four seasons in a single 24-hour period. For these reasons, Ohio is the Layering Capital of the World. Even layering, however, can pose danger. Golfers have been known to dress for hypothermia and end up dead of heat stroke because they couldn't strip off their layers of plaid fast enough on a changeable spring morning.

Don't take Ohio place names literally. Upper Sandusky is below regular Sandusky. Circleville is square. East Liverpool has no counterpart to the west. Also, if a town has the same name as a foreign capital... Lima or Berlin, for example... you must not pronounce it that way lest you come under suspicion as a spy. Hence, it's not LEE-ma as in Peru, but LYE-ma as in bean.

Become mulch literate. Ohioans love mulch and appreciate its subtle differences. Learn the difference between hardwood, cypress and pine bark at a minimum. Researchers think the state affinity for mulch derives from its relatively flat terrain. People have a subconscious need for topography, and when it can't be supplied naturally, they are more likely to make little mulch hillocks in their front yards.

In order to talk sports with obsessive fans in Ohio, you have to be knowledgeable on three levels-professional, college and high school. The truly expert Ohio sports fan knows not only the name of the hotshot quarterback at Abercrombie and Fitch High School, but also what colleges he's interested in, how much he bench-presses, who he took to the prom and what he got on his biology quiz last week.

Remember that Ohioans are never the first to embrace trends. When we do embrace them, we do so with a Midwestern pragmatism. For example, if you see an Ohioan with a nose ring, there's a good chance he's had it undercoated to guard against rust.

The best way to sell something in Ohio is to attach the term "Amish" to it. The product need not be genuinely Amish. This would explain the existence of Amish moo shu pork.
I hope you found this guide to be useful. If it offends you, please let me know. I will bring a green-bean casserole to your house to make amends"...........



1/31/2005 4:43:09 PM EDT
[#11]
Ackkkk!

All those Italics in my previous post give, even me, a headache........
I'll change that now. Right now.
1/31/2005 6:20:12 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Well, even if Central Ohio is a yuppie cess pool, there's at least one cool guy living here <ahem>.

There aren't a ton of ranges in the Central Ohio area, but I belong to a good one that's about 30-40 minutes from Westerville and I also have a range here at the house and I have get togethers here from time to time so you should have ample opportunity to hang out with other black rifle fans.




"<ahem> " indeed.......

More than Several "cool guys" live up h'yar in Ohiya.

rvogster,
This place is wunnerful. We got heat, cold, hyoo-mitity and ever thang else. I don't recall menny of us Buckeyes complainin' much 'bout are grate state. We a-r-e Buckeyes.  We're nuts. Proud nuts.

As quoted by others on the "WWW":

".......Here are some guidelines to assist others in understanding what it takes to be an Ohioan.


Know the state casserole. The state casserole consists of canned green beans, Campbell's cream of mushroom soup and dried onions. You can safely take this casserole to any social event and know that you will be accepted. In fact, Neil Armstrong almost took this casserole to the moon in case he encountered alien life there. NASA nixed the plan out of concern that the casserole would overburden the Apollo rocket at liftoff.

Get used to food festivals. The Ohio General Assembly, in an effort to grow bigger offensive linemen, passed legislation years ago requiring every incorporated community to have at least one festival per year dedicated to a high-fat food. Thus, Sugarcreek honors Swiss cheese, Bucyrus has a bratwurst celebration and Gahanna, seeking an edge over other towns, has recently introduced the Triglyceride and Low-density Lipoprotein Festival. It is your duty as an Ohioan to attend these festivals and at least buy an elephant ear.

Know the geography. Of Florida, I mean. I've run into Ohioans who couldn't tell you where Toledo is but they know the exact distance from Fort Myers to Bonita Springs. That's because all Ohioans go to Florida in the winter. Or plan to when they retire. Or are related to retired Ohioans who have a place in Sarasota. We consider Florida to be the Lower Peninsula of Ohio.

If you can't afford to spend the winter in Florida, use the state excuse, which is that you stay here because you enjoy the change of season. You'll be lying, but that's OK. We've all done it.

Speaking of Ohio weather, wear layers or die. The thing to remember about Ohio seasons is that they can occur at anytime. We have spring like days in January and wintry weekends in October. April is capable of providing a sampling of all four seasons in a single 24-hour period. For these reasons, Ohio is the Layering Capital of the World. Even layering, however, can pose danger. Golfers have been known to dress for hypothermia and end up dead of heat stroke because they couldn't strip off their layers of plaid fast enough on a changeable spring morning.

Don't take Ohio place names literally. Upper Sandusky is below regular Sandusky. Circleville is square. East Liverpool has no counterpart to the west. Also, if a town has the same name as a foreign capital... Lima or Berlin, for example... you must not pronounce it that way lest you come under suspicion as a spy. Hence, it's not LEE-ma as in Peru, but LYE-ma as in bean.

Become mulch literate. Ohioans love mulch and appreciate its subtle differences. Learn the difference between hardwood, cypress and pine bark at a minimum. Researchers think the state affinity for mulch derives from its relatively flat terrain. People have a subconscious need for topography, and when it can't be supplied naturally, they are more likely to make little mulch hillocks in their front yards.

In order to talk sports with obsessive fans in Ohio, you have to be knowledgeable on three levels-professional, college and high school. The truly expert Ohio sports fan knows not only the name of the hotshot quarterback at Abercrombie and Fitch High School, but also what colleges he's interested in, how much he bench-presses, who he took to the prom and what he got on his biology quiz last week.

Remember that Ohioans are never the first to embrace trends. When we do embrace them, we do so with a Midwestern pragmatism. For example, if you see an Ohioan with a nose ring, there's a good chance he's had it undercoated to guard against rust.

The best way to sell something in Ohio is to attach the term "Amish" to it. The product need not be genuinely Amish. This would explain the existence of Amish moo shu pork.
I hope you found this guide to be useful. If it offends you, please let me know. I will bring a green-bean casserole to your house to make amends"...........






Daayum Yore guud!  JEC


I didn't know you were such a master of all things literary!(I especially like the part about the "undercoated nosering" but I've met a few of those, uh, "individuals"; It's not "undercoating" if you know what I mean)

You have given me new inspiration........Now I have to come up with an "Amish AR-15!" (Would that be like an SKS spray painted black with a pitchfork instead of a bayonet?)

Happy Casseroles!
Hessian-1out!
1/31/2005 6:38:04 PM EDT
[#13]


Know the state casserole. The state casserole consists of canned green beans, Campbell's cream of mushroom soup and dried onions. You can safely take this casserole to any social event and know that you will be accepted. In fact, Neil Armstrong almost took this casserole to the moon in case he encountered alien life there. NASA nixed the plan out of concern that the casserole would overburden the Apollo rocket at liftoff.

G



  I thought my family were the only ones who ate that stuff!
2/1/2005 10:57:54 AM EDT
[#14]
Don't give up Ohio is a good state to live in, just don't expect to be able to smoke in a building in the city limits of
Columbus
Dublin
Upper Arlington * I think it passed there or the vote is next week on the smoking ban*
2/1/2005 6:59:25 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
I work in Westerville. Until recently it was a dry town, but that has changed.  I don't know about the gun laws, but there is a great little gun shop in downtown Westerville - Aumiller's.




I love Aumillers Gunshop!! I love to go in there and check out all the Full-Autos and droool!!
2/1/2005 7:18:38 PM EDT
[#16]
i get sort of sick of the pussys that post their "i am so screwed"  miniseries. you guys gotta get a grip. as long as you cow down to the crappy state laws that exist in the crap hole state you "must live in" than you play into the economy of these states---you feed the problem. vote with your feet and run! go to a state that puts some value in the freedom of the individual, if you are worth a crap, than these states will value your contribution. I think it is about time that people that have some stones start showing where they stand by standing in the right states. read ---red states.
2/2/2005 1:58:39 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
i get sort of sick of the pussys that post their "i am so screwed"  miniseries. you guys gotta get a grip. as long as you cow down to the crappy state laws that exist in the crap hole state you "must live in" than you play into the economy of these states---you feed the problem. vote with your feet and run! go to a state that puts some value in the freedom of the individual, if you are worth a crap, than these states will value your contribution. I think it is about time that people that have some stones start showing where they stand by standing in the right states. read ---red states.




You calling me a sissy?



2/2/2005 2:20:25 PM EDT
[#18]

.............. read ---red states.



I'm a in a "red state", mostly because I like it here.  I voted "Blue", but they let me stay anyway.
2/2/2005 4:03:46 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
I happen to love Ohio. It has its ups and downs like any other state. I think in the end life is what you make it



+1
2/2/2005 4:27:13 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

.............. read ---red states.



I'm a in a "red state", mostly because I like it here.  I voted "Blue", but they let me stay anyway.



That's ok, JEC.  We value diversity around here! (It helps keep life interesting.)

Hessian-1out!

2/2/2005 10:13:43 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Well, even if Central Ohio is a yuppie cess pool, there's at least one cool guy living here <ahem>.

There aren't a ton of ranges in the Central Ohio area, but I belong to a good one that's about 30-40 minutes from Westerville and I also have a range here at the house and I have get togethers here from time to time so you should have ample opportunity to hang out with other black rifle fans.




"<ahem> " indeed.......

More than Several "cool guys" live up h'yar in Ohiya.

rvogster,
This place is wunnerful. We got heat, cold, hyoo-mitity and ever thang else. I don't recall menny of us Buckeyes complainin' much 'bout are grate state. We a-r-e Buckeyes.  We're nuts. Proud nuts.

As quoted by others on the "WWW":

".......Here are some guidelines to assist others in understanding what it takes to be an Ohioan.


Know the state casserole. The state casserole consists of canned green beans, Campbell's cream of mushroom soup and dried onions. You can safely take this casserole to any social event and know that you will be accepted. In fact, Neil Armstrong almost took this casserole to the moon in case he encountered alien life there. NASA nixed the plan out of concern that the casserole would overburden the Apollo rocket at liftoff.

Get used to food festivals. The Ohio General Assembly, in an effort to grow bigger offensive linemen, passed legislation years ago requiring every incorporated community to have at least one festival per year dedicated to a high-fat food. Thus, Sugarcreek honors Swiss cheese, Bucyrus has a bratwurst celebration and Gahanna, seeking an edge over other towns, has recently introduced the Triglyceride and Low-density Lipoprotein Festival. It is your duty as an Ohioan to attend these festivals and at least buy an elephant ear.

Know the geography. Of Florida, I mean. I've run into Ohioans who couldn't tell you where Toledo is but they know the exact distance from Fort Myers to Bonita Springs. That's because all Ohioans go to Florida in the winter. Or plan to when they retire. Or are related to retired Ohioans who have a place in Sarasota. We consider Florida to be the Lower Peninsula of Ohio.

If you can't afford to spend the winter in Florida, use the state excuse, which is that you stay here because you enjoy the change of season. You'll be lying, but that's OK. We've all done it.

Speaking of Ohio weather, wear layers or die. The thing to remember about Ohio seasons is that they can occur at anytime. We have spring like days in January and wintry weekends in October. April is capable of providing a sampling of all four seasons in a single 24-hour period. For these reasons, Ohio is the Layering Capital of the World. Even layering, however, can pose danger. Golfers have been known to dress for hypothermia and end up dead of heat stroke because they couldn't strip off their layers of plaid fast enough on a changeable spring morning.

Don't take Ohio place names literally. Upper Sandusky is below regular Sandusky. Circleville is square. East Liverpool has no counterpart to the west. Also, if a town has the same name as a foreign capital... Lima or Berlin, for example... you must not pronounce it that way lest you come under suspicion as a spy. Hence, it's not LEE-ma as in Peru, but LYE-ma as in bean.

Become mulch literate. Ohioans love mulch and appreciate its subtle differences. Learn the difference between hardwood, cypress and pine bark at a minimum. Researchers think the state affinity for mulch derives from its relatively flat terrain. People have a subconscious need for topography, and when it can't be supplied naturally, they are more likely to make little mulch hillocks in their front yards.

In order to talk sports with obsessive fans in Ohio, you have to be knowledgeable on three levels-professional, college and high school. The truly expert Ohio sports fan knows not only the name of the hotshot quarterback at Abercrombie and Fitch High School, but also what colleges he's interested in, how much he bench-presses, who he took to the prom and what he got on his biology quiz last week.

Remember that Ohioans are never the first to embrace trends. When we do embrace them, we do so with a Midwestern pragmatism. For example, if you see an Ohioan with a nose ring, there's a good chance he's had it undercoated to guard against rust.

The best way to sell something in Ohio is to attach the term "Amish" to it. The product need not be genuinely Amish. This would explain the existence of Amish moo shu pork.
I hope you found this guide to be useful. If it offends you, please let me know. I will bring an AMISH  green-bean casserole to your house to make amends"...........






fixed it  
2/3/2005 4:05:00 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
i get sort of sick of the pussys that post their "i am so screwed"  miniseries. you guys gotta get a grip. as long as you cow down to the crappy state laws that exist in the crap hole state you "must live in" than you play into the economy of these states---you feed the problem. vote with your feet and run! go to a state that puts some value in the freedom of the individual, if you are worth a crap, than these states will value your contribution. I think it is about time that people that have some stones start showing where they stand by standing in the right states. read ---red states.



I'm sorry, who the fuck do YOU think delivered Bush to the White House?

Not Idaho, with its 2 (or is it 1?) electoral votes.
2/3/2005 11:12:19 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
i get sort of sick of the pussys that post their "i am so screwed"  miniseries. you guys gotta get a grip. as long as you cow down to the crappy state laws that exist in the crap hole state you "must live in" than you play into the economy of these states---you feed the problem. vote with your feet and run! go to a state that puts some value in the freedom of the individual, if you are worth a crap, than these states will value your contribution. I think it is about time that people that have some stones start showing where they stand by standing in the right states. read ---red states.




You mean a red state with BLUE turf?





2/5/2005 5:32:32 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
Don't take Ohio place names literally. Upper Sandusky is below regular Sandusky. Circleville is square. East Liverpool has no counterpart to the west. Also, if a town has the same name as a foreign capital... Lima or Berlin, for example... you must not pronounce it that way lest you come under suspicion as a spy. Hence, it's not LEE-ma as in Peru, but LYE-ma as in bean.



Bucyrus = Bucky-Russ

Mantua = Man-Away

Place names might seem deceptive, but in some cases are very accurate owing to Ohioans natural attention to details.  Consider North Royalton.  Look around there, you might wonder where Royalton is.  There is a Royalton just SW of Columbus.  Even though North Royalton something like 130 miles south, it still is north of Royalton.

North Royalton and Royalton



Become mulch literate. Ohioans love mulch and appreciate its subtle differences. Learn the difference between hardwood, cypress and pine bark at a minimum. Researchers think the state affinity for mulch derives from its relatively flat terrain.



I've seen a neatly mulched row of telephone poles in Cleveland.  Again, there's that Ohio precise attention to detail.

-Wolf


2/5/2005 9:55:03 AM EDT
[#25]
Upper Sandusky is indeed above Sandusky.  Up stream.  No one had a GPS when these were named.

North Royalton is in Royalton Township.  Or part of of.  Broadview Heights is in the eastern half.  Anyway back in the 19th Century the US Post Office had no ZIPcodes to work from so every postoffice had to have a distinctive name.  Apparently Royalton, a bump in the road in Fairfield, got it's post office registered first and North Royalton was what was left.  There probably is no post office in Royalton anymore.

Note Route 82 is Royalton Road, not North Royalton Road.  

The Royalton story is documented in the city archives and was published in the local papers years ago.  As was Broadview Heights.  Broadview is the wide spot in the road where old Broadview Road (the stub, not the nice new pavement) and Brecksville Road (formerly Cleveland-Massillon Road) intersect in northern Summit County.  All the other Cleveland area "heights" are way over on the east side.  I suspect places like East Palestine, East Liverpool, North Randall, etc. all got names from the post office as well.  

This is not unique to Ohio and is common in the eastern states.

-- Chuck