Posted: 7/5/2009 9:37:28 PM EDT
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I'm considering bringing my AR from out of state into Nevada and I'm wondering how I would register it. I know I'll need a bullet button installed before I register it. I found the New Resident Handgun Ownership Form on the Attorney General's website however I see nothing for AR/Rifles. Can someone help me with this.
Also, I have magazines that were in the state before 2000 and never left that are capable of holding more than 10 rounds. What can I use this with? Can I use them with my AR? |
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you can't register your AR as an Assault Weapon. You can apply but unless you are special status person you aren't getting a permit to own/register.
Bullet button is for keeping evil features while having a non-detachable 10 round magazine, in such a configuration it's not an "assault weapon" and does not need to be registered to be legally possessed. You can go evil-less feature build and retain the detachable magazine ability of the firearm, retain the ability to use the grandfathered high capacity magazines, but be clear that you cannot have ANY evil features, in such a configuration it is not an "assault weapon" and does not need to be registered to be legally possessed. Read the FAQ at the top of hometown forum for Ca. |
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I'm considering bringing my AR from out of state into Nevada and I'm wondering how I would register it. I know I'll need a bullet button installed before I register it. I found the New Resident Handgun Ownership Form on the Attorney General's website however I see nothing for AR/Rifles. Can someone help me with this. Others have covered this. You don't register long guns in California, and you can't register an assault weapon unless you're active duty military PCSing into the state with a permanent residence outside California. Long story short, you won't be registering your AR. Quoted:Also, I have magazines that were in the state before 2000 and never left that are capable of holding more than 10 rounds. What can I use this with? Can I use them with my AR?
You can use these with your rifle if you don't use a bullet button, and build your AR without any "evil" features (pistol grip, flash suppressor, etc). Without any of those features, you can use your 11+ round magazines with your rifle. If you use a bullet button, even if you don't have any evil features, you cannot use an 11+ round magazine. |
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<Snip> You can use these with your rifle if you don't use a bullet button, and build your AR without any "evil" features (pistol grip, flash suppressor, etc). Without any of those features, you can use your 11+ 10+ round magazines with your rifle. If you use a bullet button, even if you don't have any evil features, you cannot use an 11+ 10+ round magazine. Fixed. |
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You'll need to check "The List" to see if your weapon is on it. If not, then you can legally import it into the state as long as it doesn't have any of the "evil features".
READ THIS FIRST THEN READ THIS Both of the above documents together will greatly increase your knowledge about the AR/AK/AW issue. |
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It's off the list. Knew that when I bought it because I had a feeling I'd be moving here soon. Need to find a bullet button. There are several locks available for use here. I ran the old bullet button for a long time and recently converted to the Raddlock. Here is a list of retailers: http://www.riflegear.com/c-78-ar-15-rifle-parts.aspx http://www.adxtactical.com/store/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=109 http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=1352 http://www.coldwarshooters.net/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=28 |
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The Bullet Button is getting more (grudgingly) acceptance from the DAs that are giving their opinion. The Prince is a little more cloudy because you can temporarily disable it. (if you can dissable it in Arizona, you can disable it in California...)
I just closed my CA house and moved to AZ when I retired, but I left one of my ARs still fitted with a Bullet Button just to come back and go shooting with my son. Since I'm bouncing back and forth I just leave it on. I can remove it in less than five minutes but it really is not that big of a deal to use it. (other than the principle) I'd go with the BB and pass on the Prince, but YMMV. |
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What's the difference between the Prince and the Bullet Button? IS it just that the Prince allows you to go out of state and use it like a regular AR and convert it back without have to take the mag release apart? Lets get this straight first. Calguns user Prince50 creates the Prince50 Magazine Lock, then he created a line of bullet buttons. So if you are asking about the original Prince50 lock it is regular AR mag release with a hole drilled and tapped in it. When a set screw is put far enough down the hole, when the button is pushed the screw hits the receiver locking the magazine in place. While it requires a tool to remove the set screw, it doesn't require a tool to release the mag itself, therefore if you are using a Prince50 magazine lock you can only top load/scissor/shotgun your AR and load that way. It is usually big for people who constantly go back and forth between California and other states. The bullet button allows you to drop the magazine in CA with the use of a tool, removal for out of state use is not as easy as the original Prince50 but it isn't hard. I ran the BB for a long time and recently converted to the Raddlock. The Raddlock is a hybrid of the Prince50 and the Bullet button. It gives you a lock that use a tool to drop the magazine as well as an option of taking it out of state and turning the screw for regular use. |
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Watch this youtube video, this is how the bullet button works, if you move out of state again, you can easily reinstall the standard AR mag release.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VseNzVcIjtc |
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Watch this youtube video, this is how the bullet button works, if you move out of state again, you can easily reinstall the standard AR mag release. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VseNzVcIjtc I thought it was illegal to have 30 round magazines with that gun. Looks like he has a 6 position stock. |
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<Snip> You can use these with your rifle if you don't use a bullet button, and build your AR without any "evil" features (pistol grip, flash suppressor, etc). Without any of those features, you can use your 11+ 10+ round magazines with your rifle. If you use a bullet button, even if you don't have any evil features, you cannot use an 11+ 10+ round magazine. Fixed. I wrote 11+ as the law is that the magazine has to hold ten rounds or less. I've had some people misunderstand the comment "10+" to mean that a 10 round mag was prohibited. Either way, 10+ is probably more accurate, and even if someone misunderstands and uses only 9 round magazines, it's better than someone misunderstanding and using an 11 round magazine. Quoted:
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What's the difference between the Prince and the Bullet Button? IS it just that the Prince allows you to go out of state and use it like a regular AR and convert it back without have to take the mag release apart? Lets get this straight first. Calguns user Prince50 creates the Prince50 Magazine Lock, then he created a line of bullet buttons. So if you are asking about the original Prince50 lock it is regular AR mag release with a hole drilled and tapped in it. When a set screw is put far enough down the hole, when the button is pushed the screw hits the receiver locking the magazine in place. While it requires a tool to remove the set screw, it doesn't require a tool to release the mag itself, therefore if you are using a Prince50 magazine lock you can only top load/scissor/shotgun your AR and load that way. It is usually big for people who constantly go back and forth between California and other states. The bullet button allows you to drop the magazine in CA with the use of a tool, removal for out of state use is not as easy as the original Prince50 but it isn't hard.. Prince50 didn't actually create the original Bullet Button or any of the subsequent models, he just manufactures them. The Bullet Button (originally called the Range Safe Mag Lock) was originally invented by Gene Hoffman. There was also the Sporting Conversions Mag Lock before the Prince50 and Bullet Button, which was apparently a bullet button variant, but I've never seen one of those in the flesh. Quoted:
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Watch this youtube video, this is how the bullet button works, if you move out of state again, you can easily reinstall the standard AR mag release. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VseNzVcIjtc I thought it was illegal to have 30 round magazines with that gun. Looks like he has a 6 position stock. It also has a pistol grip. Either one of those things requires a fixed mag of ten rounds or less. The magazine in that video looks like a 20 rounder, and is in all likelihood a 10/20 magazine. You can use magazines that look like they hold 20, 30, or even 100 rounds as long as they have been permanently modified to hold 10 rounds or less. |
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Could I register a lower as a pistol? How would I find out if its been built into a rifle before? Don't friggin play games with lowers as pistols, esp in CA. Noobs are gonna get F***D bigtime. Lotta sloppy crap out there, and it's always the young guys making assumptions. There's really no way to get a pistol lower unless you're LEO or can arrange an intrastate intrafamily transfer of pistol lower. For now, have your FFL import a complete single-shot AR pistol brought in by your FFL. The single-shot status should be achieved with a "sled" device, locked in with a maglock device (BB). This gun is thus Roster-exempt per 12133PC single-shot exemption, and is also not an AW. It also came into your FFL dealer as a pistol on the books so pistol vs rifle clarity is there and you don't have to worry about Fed or state SBR drama. Bill Wiese San Jose CA |