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2/9/2007 5:11:47 PM EDT
Question-- Is a semi auto AR with a very fast rate of fire trigger (Almost full auto) legal? In CA?  Every pull of the trigger is a shot.

2/9/2007 5:25:37 PM EDT
[#1]
everytime i pull the trigger i get a shot off too. as long as each pull of the trigger doesnt let off more than 1 at a time you should be fine.
2/9/2007 7:07:52 PM EDT
[#2]
Even if I can rip off 6 a second?
2/9/2007 8:50:34 PM EDT
[#3]
Multiburst trigger activators are not legal, but there is nothing in the penal cade that prohibits a speedy trigger finger.

A little aside, the BATF has confirmed that if you fired a round for the trigger pull AND the trigger release, it would not violate the law. See below
2/9/2007 9:57:31 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Even if I can rip off 6 a second?


uh huh

So which gadget are we talking about speedy?

Or are you really just that fast?
2/10/2007 9:38:09 AM EDT
[#5]
I have some idea's in mind. My friend just started working for a CNC shop so we are going to do some testing.
2/10/2007 10:07:08 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
I have some idea's in mind. My friend just started working for a CNC shop so we are going to do some testing.


Ummm, well okay but as stated above trigger actuators are illegal in CA.

Looking to market it out of state?
2/10/2007 11:01:58 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Ummm, well okay but as stated above trigger actuators are illegal in CA.

Looking to market it out of state?


Just use a rubber band.
2/10/2007 6:02:20 PM EDT
[#8]
What is a trigger actuator?
2/10/2007 8:21:50 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
What is a trigger actuator?
lol  - it's the thing you are talking about creating.  You better read up on the field and CA regs, before you get yourself in serious trouble.
2/11/2007 9:02:50 AM EDT
[#10]
Well thats odd, I dont seem to recall ever talking about what it is that I am thinking about making at all...Just asked questions about rate of fire and what is a trigger actuator. I guess I will do a search for trigger actuators.
2/11/2007 1:09:22 PM EDT
[#11]
Okay, it's true that we assumed what you were talking about. That's what happens when you ask a technical question but don't give any details. We have to guess.

A trigger actuator is a device that essentially pulls your trigger for you. This can be in the form of a crank or a cam or whatever mechanical device that you can devise that will allow your weapon to fire at a high rate. So if it involves cranking, camming or other mehanical means of actuating the trigger it is illegal in CA. I don't know for sure but would assume that it involves the entire trigger group, not just the trigger itself. Don't get cute with the rules as you interpret it, get it in writing. But even that may not help you when they issue the search warrant.

If it allows the rifle to fire more than one shot with a single pull of the trigger it is by definition a machine gun. That's a Federal rule. Look up shoestring NFA device.

If it allows a form of bumpfiring, see the recent action on the Akins Accelerator.

Either give us some details or take the answers that you get.
2/11/2007 3:00:50 PM EDT
[#12]
You just have to learn to bump
2/11/2007 7:26:52 PM EDT
[#13]
Thanks guys for all the insite. I found some answers that I was looking for and that looks good to me. I will post at a later date with what we have come up with.