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Posted: 1/6/2006 3:30:48 AM EDT
the ones that take ak mags, i think they refer to them as sks-m's ?
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 4:17:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/6/2006 4:20:27 AM EDT by delta88]
Nope. If that were the case, AKs and ARs would be legal, too.

ETA: Oh and the fact that it has no PG doesn't matter. It's not a domestic weapon like an M1A. If it's imported the rules change.
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 6:45:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By delta88:
Nope. If that were the case, AKs and ARs would be legal, too.

ETA: Oh and the fact that it has no PG doesn't matter. It's not a domestic weapon like an M1A. If it's imported the rules change.



Well, not exactly.

The reason a detachable magazine SKS is banned is because it is explicitly mentioned in the Roberti-Roos Assault Weapon List (Designated Assault Weapons):


The following designated semiautomatic firearms are "assault weapons":

(a) All of the following specified rifles:

(11) SKS with detachable magazine.



All this and more can be found in the pinned thread at the top of this forum.

Imported Ljungmans and Hakims, for example, with detachable magazines, are not banned here because they are not mentioned by name and they are not banned by features.
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 7:25:40 AM EDT
How did the D model SKS become banned? The receiver much different than an AK receiver, and they are no different than a Mini14.
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 12:13:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/6/2006 12:14:54 PM EDT by bwiese]
"SKSes with detachable magazines" are specifically banned by the orig Roberti-Roos law.


Originally Posted By Chaingun:
How did the D model SKS become banned? The receiver is much different
than an AK receiver, and they are no different than a Mini14.



Because it was in the list when Roberti-Roos law was drafted. There does not have to be rhyme nor reason for this; the list is separate from the description of why AWs are evil (even before SB23 passed in 1999 defining banned evil feature combinations).

Similarly, the Springfield Armory-imported Beretta BM59 is also a named, banned assault weapon; this is essentially the same form factor as a CA-legal M1A or Mini14, also, and is the M1A's predecessor.

'Named' guns added to the nonAR/nonAK list (Calif Code of Regulation sec 979.10, not 979.11) via the 12276.5 'add-on' court declaration procedure could still in theory add more-or-less conventional guns, though law requires the AG office to show by a 'prepoderance of evidence' the gun is especially dangerous. Since this has never been done, I believe these proceedings will just be used to add 'copies and duplicates' (like Imbel receivers for FAL clones, Group Industries receivers for Uzi clones, etc.) if CA DOJ does do a cleanup for nonAR/nonAK guns (likely, but somewhat after the AR/AK Roster is updated).

Bill Wiese
San Jose, CA

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