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12/2/2012 1:16:46 PM EDT
Is there a fl.st statue regarding workmanship when Sayyyy.. a company such as Lennar is building a new home for u and some of the workmanship is substandard without losing my 1500 deposit., thank u guys
12/2/2012 6:34:29 PM EDT
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Is there a fl.st statue regarding workmanship when Sayyyy.. a company such as Lennar is building a new home for u and some of the workmanship is substandard without losing my 1500 deposit., thank u guys


Not to be an asshole but can you prove it's substandard? Is it passing city/county inspections.

What's the issue or issues?

12/3/2012 3:24:43 AM EDT
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did a pre inspection, and bath room towel holders were put up with wrong adhesive, bottom floor molding coming off wall, they did not use enough nails.  U are correct in one aspect, house not done yet. But still what was done was not done right.
12/3/2012 5:39:26 AM EDT
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did a pre inspection, and bath room towel holders were put up with wrong adhesive, bottom floor molding coming off wall, they did not use enough nails.  U are correct in one aspect, house not done yet. But still what was done was not done right.


Typical minimum code track house quality.....not illegal.

You want a quality home? Get a custom builder to build it and have a good architect develop good specs. Prepare to pay an extra 50%.


You really want a shock? Go check out how the A/C system is installed, or the plumbing, or insulation, or for that matter the foundation and walls. You know the important stuff.

People tend to really care about the meaningless cosmetic crap and not what's really important.
12/3/2012 9:13:03 AM EDT
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did a pre inspection, and bath room towel holders were put up with wrong adhesive, bottom floor molding coming off wall, they did not use enough nails.  U are correct in one aspect, house not done yet. But still what was done was not done right.




Typical minimum code track house quality.....not illegal.



You want a quality home? Get a custom builder to build it and have a good architect develop good specs. Prepare to pay an extra 50%.





You really want a shock? Go check out how the A/C system is installed, or the plumbing, or insulation, or for that matter the foundation and walls. You know the important stuff.



People tend to really care about the meaningless cosmetic crap and not what's really important.



You mean the meaningless cosmetic crap you're paying for? I care about that as well...





 
12/3/2012 9:21:57 AM EDT
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Do what I did, be a total pain in their ass. Get to know the on site foreman and question whatever looks wrong. Concentrate on the big stuff like your roof structure and mechanical. Let the local building inspector know of any obvious items. Ask the inspector to do his job.
12/3/2012 2:24:04 PM EDT
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Do what I did, be a total pain in their ass. Get to know the on site foreman and question whatever looks wrong. Concentrate on the big stuff like your roof structure and mechanical. Let the local building inspector know of any obvious items. Ask the inspector to do his job.


Better yet, hirer a competent private inspector to inspect the house for you.  Most track builders are not going to let you do this during construction, but you should have the opportunity at completion before settlement.  The trick is finding a good inspector, many of them aren't near as deliberate as they should be.
12/3/2012 2:31:10 PM EDT
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I do glass work. Sliders, mirrors, showers and tabletops. I myself usually do showers and mirrors, and usually am one of the last ones in the place being built, and they always save the majority of the cosmetic stuff for last. Usually the moulding latexing the seams. Painting over minor marks etc.

So hopefully that's the route they are going.
12/3/2012 4:34:34 PM EDT
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thank u guys
12/3/2012 5:02:23 PM EDT
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Do what I did, be a total pain in their ass. Get to know the on site foreman and question whatever looks wrong. Concentrate on the big stuff like your roof structure and mechanical. Let the local building inspector know of any obvious items. Ask the inspector to do his job.




+1 to this. My best friend is a super intendant for DR Horton and all the small stuff you're noticing, is usually fixed once he does his punch list. They'll tell whichever sub to come back and tighten up any flaws they see or most of the time, he'll do it himself.

Make a checklist of things you're not satisfied with cause that's when you can have them addressed. Until you sign off on the walk through, they can't close on the house and it ties up their money so, they're going to want to get it done and have you satisfied so they can proceed with closing.
12/3/2012 5:30:23 PM EDT
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And what ever you do, if you have any tile and mortar showers, be there when they preslope the drain, when they mud the floor, and when they build the shower dam.  Any questions on what is right, go to www.johnbridge.com and read the forums.  And there is no place for drywall (whether water resistant or regular) in any area of any shower.  Just use cement board already jeeze guys, how cheap can you get?

A lot of houses (especially 2 story ones) are nearly destroyed by plumbing/drainage woes.  

Just my .02

Steve
12/3/2012 6:29:26 PM EDT
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And what ever you do, if you have any tile and mortar showers, be there when they preslope the drain, when they mud the floor, and when they build the shower dam.  Any questions on what is right, go to www.johnbridge.com and read the forums.  And there is no place for drywall (whether water resistant or regular) in any area of any shower.  Just use cement board already jeeze guys, how cheap can you get?

A lot of houses (especially 2 story ones) are nearly destroyed by plumbing/drainage woes.  

Just my .02

Steve


so true. cant tell you how many times me and my partner have gone to measure a shower opening, and the sill is sloped to the outside instead of inside, and the walls are out like a son of a bitch. getting shower glass out of square costs more so keep that in mind haha.
12/4/2012 5:22:02 AM EDT
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Tract, the word you're searching for is tract housing!

This has been your pedantic grammar nazi moment for 04DEC12.
12/4/2012 7:16:47 AM EDT
[#13]
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And what ever you do, if you have any tile and mortar showers, be there when they preslope the drain, when they mud the floor, and when they build the shower dam.  Any questions on what is right, go to www.johnbridge.com and read the forums.  And there is no place for drywall (whether water resistant or regular) in any area of any shower.  Just use cement board already jeeze guys, how cheap can you get?

A lot of houses (especially 2 story ones) are nearly destroyed by plumbing/drainage woes.  

Just my .02

Steve



+1 on the second story plumbing. I will never buy or build another two story house.

12/4/2012 1:27:45 PM EDT
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The meaningless cosmetic crap is what is visible. Not putting the OP down, but most people don't know that much about construction and most of the really BAD shit is hidden. I've seen Lennar building and it has been SHIT for years. I hope, for your sake that is not the case with your home, but if there is visible shit wrong, I'd hire someone to check it out BEFORE closing. Depending on your contract, you may be able to back out.

Better to lose $1,500 now than live in a piece of shit that has continous problems for the next 20 years. Like someone else mentioned, if it is a 2 story, you are fucked down the road. I have seen horrible shit happen to people after the warranty is over and they never recover financially. I wouldn't live in a Lennar home if it was given to me. Absolutely the worst built in FL IMO. Not what you want to hear but, better now than later.
12/4/2012 2:11:01 PM EDT
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Do what I did, be a total pain in their ass. Get to know the on site foreman and question whatever looks wrong. Concentrate on the big stuff like your roof structure and mechanical. Let the local building inspector know of any obvious items. Ask the inspector to do his job.


Better yet, hirer a competent private inspector to inspect the house for you.  Most track builders are not going to let you do this during construction, but you should have the opportunity at completion before settlement.  The trick is finding a good inspector, many of them aren't near as deliberate as they should be.


I've been a custom builder for 25+ years, I can't stress enough how a good inspector can pay for himself many times over.  Find a good one in your area and spend the money to have him do the walk through with you.  Track builders simpily don't supervise subs close enough to insure that everything is done right.  I can't begin to tell you how much poor workmanship is out there these days.