Posted: 6/26/2010 7:29:57 AM EDT
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I see them always at the gun shows and from what I have been reading you can only get them if they are manufactured and sold within the state lines. Anyone know of any websites that you can purchase and receive auto type knives within FL. If not I probably would just see what they have at the gun shows.
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I'd say search autoknife or switchblade on google, or dogpile
. I think the only one you can't own is the one that shoots the blade out the front not opens out the front, but shoots the blade out. then search the law 790._ _ _ Florida Law it is there but confusing. you can search for the legality on the net there is a wide base of opnions and lawyers offering their services http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switchblade |
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Check your local gun shops. I've seen a few auto knives here and there. Funny thing I have not seen them in any gun shops around here. BTW: Thanks for the heads up I edited my knifes/knives typo...   888 Knives R Us is based in Jacksonville and carry a ton of auto knives. |
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Check your local gun shops. I've seen a few auto knives here and there. Funny thing I have not seen them in any gun shops around here. BTW: Thanks for the heads up I edited my knifes/knives typo... 888 Knives R Us is based in Jacksonville and carry a ton of auto knives. Thanks, I will check them out. |
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Check your local gun shops. I've seen a few auto knives here and there. Funny thing I have not seen them in any gun shops around here. BTW: Thanks for the heads up I edited my knifes/knives typo... I saw a few at Shooters a couple years back but, I haven't been there in awhile.. |
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You can get alot of autoknives online. Microtech makes some of the best, if not the best OTF (out the front) knives. www.bladehq.com has a good amount, and decent prices. The only thing is that they are located in UT. I do not think that they can sell out of their state lines. Maybe I am wrong, but I thought you could only purchase/receive within your own state lines. |
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You can get alot of autoknives online. Microtech makes some of the best, if not the best OTF (out the front) knives. www.bladehq.com has a good amount, and decent prices. The only thing is that they are located in UT. I do not think that they can sell out of their state lines. Maybe I am wrong, but I thought you could only purchase/receive within your own state lines. All of my Benchmade autos have come from out of state (MO, actually). |
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I do not think that they can sell out of their state lines. Maybe I am wrong, but I thought you could only purchase/receive within your own state lines
Where did you get that piece of information? The statutes say nothing about where the item is made... So this seems like the often cited (and incorrect) "3-step rule" about firearms. You COULD be confusing this and NFA rules. |
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Quoted: Quoted: You can get alot of autoknives online. Microtech makes some of the best, if not the best OTF (out the front) knives. www.bladehq.com has a good amount, and decent prices. The only thing is that they are located in UT. I do not think that they can sell out of their state lines. Maybe I am wrong, but I thought you could only purchase/receive within your own state lines. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/1716%28g%29%282%29.html Injurious articles as nonmailable excerpted: (g) All knives having a blade which opens automatically (2) by operation of inertia, gravity, or both, are nonmailable and shall not be deposited in or carried by the mails or delivered by any officer or employee of the Postal Service. Such knives may be conveyed in the mails, under such regulations as the Postal Service shall prescribe— (1) to civilian or Armed Forces supply or procurement officers and employees of the Federal Government ordering, procuring, or purchasing such knives in connection with the activities of the Federal Government; (2) to supply or procurement officers of the National Guard, the Air National Guard, or militia of a State ordering, procuring, or purchasing such knives in connection with the activities of such organizations; (3) to supply or procurement officers or employees of any State, or any political subdivision of a State or Territory, ordering, procuring, or purchasing such knives in connection with the activities of such government; and (4) to manufacturers of such knives or bona fide dealers therein in connection with any shipment made pursuant to an order from any person designated in paragraphs (1), (2), and (3). The Postal Service may require, as a condition of conveying any such knife in the mails, that any person proposing to mail such knife explain in writing to the satisfaction of the Postal Service that the mailing of such knife will not be in violation of this section. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/15/usc_sec_15_00001244––––000-.html Sections 1242 and 1243 of this title shall not apply to— (1) any common carrier or contract carrier, with respect to any switchblade knife shipped, transported, or delivered for shipment in interstate commerce in the ordinary course of business; (2) the manufacture, sale, transportation, distribution, possession, or introduction into interstate commerce, of switchblade knives pursuant to contract with the Armed Forces; (4) the possession, and transportation upon his person, of any switchblade knife with a blade three inches or less in length by any individual who has only one arm; or (5) a knife that contains a spring, detent, or other mechanism designed to create a bias toward closure of the blade and that requires exertion applied to the blade by hand, wrist, or arm to overcome the bias toward closure to assist in opening the knife. http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0250/SEC02.HTM&Title=-%3E2009-%3ECh0250-%3ESection%2002#0250.02 250.02 Militia.–– (1) The militia consists of all able-bodied citizens of this state and all other able-bodied persons who have declared their intention to become citizens. (2) The organized militia is composed of the National Guard and any other organized military forces that are authorized by law. (3) The unorganized militia is composed of all persons who are subject to military duty but who are not members of units of the organized militia. (4) Only persons exempt from military duty by the terms of federal law are exempt from military duty in this state. Generally speaking the red highlighted portions are what applies and I encourage you to read more in depth. Florida allows switchblades of all types. Ballistic knives; those that actually fire a blade as a projectile are not permitted. Dealers that supply knives to law enforcement and military can receive auto knives in interstate commerce. Everyone in the the state of Florida who is not a member of the Military is a member of the the unorganized militia under direct control of the Governor. Thus can possess any auto knife no matter where it's made. I apologize for the sloppy way this is put together but it's more or less the nut of the subject. I believe some out of state dealers will sell direct if you sign a form stating that you fall under one of the federal exemptions i.e. LE, Mil, disabled, state militia etc. Other state laws vary quite a bit so you really have to know the law if you're going to travel out of state with an auto knife and in some cases, a folder, in general. Anyway, if you are shopping in FL for an auto knife, buy all you want. Dig a little deeper in the law if you are shopping by mail. |
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Check this dealer out (S. FL based...)
http://www.thehollowgrind.com/ |
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By Federal Law, Interstate shipping of automatic knives to Private Parties is regulated enough that most mail order dealers can't legally ship by U-S Mail.
By Federal Law, the possession of auto knives by Non-Authorized Individuals is prohibited in certain locations. In addition, you need to know your State Regulations as they relate to possession and concealed carry. From what I know as a non-lawyer in Florida, I may carry a "common pocketknife" in my pocket as long as the blade is not longer than 3 inches. But I may not possess a "ballistic knife" capable of expelling the blade. I believe the case law may be vague about whether an "auto" may be carried in your pocket, since it may not be considered a common pocketknife. But it may be legal to carry one on a belt sheath in a non-concealed fashion. I have seen autos for sale at numerous gun shows. None of the vendors require any military id's to buy one. The "Intrastate Sale" is NOT regulated by the Feds but again, dealers generally will not ship them thru the U-S Mail. The prices on auto's are usually higher than comparable folders, and the quality of many Asian Knockoffs is Crap. IMHO, a well-tuned quality folder is a better value and can be deployed just as fast. So aside from the auto's "cool factor"....you may be better off spending your $$$$ on a conventional quality pocketknife that carries a lot less legal risk. But autos are still waay cool to play with. |
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I have never encountered a dealer that would not mail a "auto or switchblade"
I have received a couple by US mail, there are restrictions in a few liberal states like Cal, Mass and the other @@@ states that have shipping bans and general bans on the knives itself but like I said I don't know any dealer Internet or otherwise that won't sell or ship to anyone in FL. If it is illegal I don't know but that is not stopping them from doing it. Oh California does have legal autos with a nub blade I think 2 inches or maybe 2 1/2 inches I don't have one now because they seem to ware out much faster than other pocket knives but if I had the cash I would buy a real good quality German auto and do not think I would have any problems with the shipping  Oh BTW my first auto was a Boker German Bolster key activated
I bought on a school bus for $15 in 1965 |
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As with so many other legal questions asked here, the best answer will come from your attorney.
Depending on answers for legal questions, from strangers on internet forums, is a sure way to gather disinformation, false facts, and sophisticated wild ass guesses. |
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Which is why I still believe a quality "common pocketknife" carries the least legal liability...and properly cleaned/lubed /adjusted can still deploy as quickly as it's ever needed.
And it won't accidently deploy inside your pants and possibly hit something very tender. Some auto makers recommend carrying their products in a small sheath even inside a pocket out of concerns they could open unexpectedly. That's why safety switches are often built into autos now. 
Why bother, get an Emerson, Crawford or Sebenza...along with plenty of other quality brands. |