Posted: 8/29/2007 1:52:51 PM EDT
| do you think florida will ever allow open carry? |
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Would be nice but I don't see it happening. Only way that it would work in Florida if each County could rule on open carry but that will never happen because Florida State Laws prevents County and City Governments from passing firearm related laws. I think it would be great because I believe that most central and northern counties would allow open carry. Place like Miami Dade and Broward would not. |
I hope so, and would be willing to contribute money to such a cause. (open carry without permit!!! ) I'd also support change to the concealed weapons law, adding any legally owned weapon may be carried, including machine guns and other NFA goodies and an option for a lifetime concealed weapons permit. not many people would open carry anyway, there are only something like +400k concealed weapons permits in a state of 18 million people. |
i thought he menat after a hurricane, what are you talking about ? |
When Florida enacted CCW there was a loophole in the law allowing open carry and Law Enforcement Agencies, city and county government entities were very unhappy about it and the law was changed to permit concealed carry only. |
| I'd like the capability to open carry, though I wouldn't utilize it much. I'm simply prefer to be able to openly carry when doing yardwork or things of that nature, instead I have to keep it covered up. I'd still conceal my weapon for trips into more populated areas. |
you can open carry on your property, according to some lawyer here
However, i doubt the responding police will know that case law. |
But a trip into the street or loading branches into the trailer and taking them down the road would put me in violation of the law. I'd like to be able to do all that without the "gun off/gun on" shuffle. Besides, after my recent experience with a local deputy sheriff on a traffic stop, even open carrying on my own property would likely land me in some trouble under the current laws. It doesn't help that the fucker lives in my own neighborhood.  All it would take is he or another of his ilk to pass by while I'm pushing the mower with a 1911 dangling on the hip and I'll be spread-eagled and searched and God-knows-what-else again.Edit: Even Mr. Gutmacher above states that it just comes down to how well the LEO knows the statute, or even worse in this case, case law. |
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Licenses to carry, up until the early '70s were good only in the county they were issued in and good only for OPEN carry....That changed about '72 or thereabouts and concealed carry of FA was permitted. At that time the law specified that one had to be licensed to carry a pistol or a repeating rifle. The law was antiquated as hell, dating from 1894 and from what I've read was initially enacted to prevent blacks that were working in the then fast growing turpentine industy, from packing any guns. Licenses were issued by the various County Commissions, and in at least one case the refusal to issue went to the Fla. Supreme Ct. that ruled that the Commissions had a "ministerial" duty to issue those licenses. Anyway, the law evolved into its current form in '87, mainly due to Marion Hamers activisim and deleted any requirement to be licensed to carry an open gun. It became a media field day, aided and abeted by idiots that promptly began to wear tie down rigs like Matt Dillon on Gunsmoke, the N.Y. times dubbed Fla. the "gunshine" state and that shaky jake bitch from the Clinton administration, Janet Reno (later AG. and responsible for Waco and Ruby Ridge) began to panic our brave and decisive legislature.....They did what politicians will under pressure, they evidenced great resolve and promptly folded....leaving us with what we now have. Thats a real quick, down and dirty chronology................You know don't you, that you can still carry a gun openly.....just that it's gotta be the "antique" version as defined at the start of 790......perfectly legal and no different that having a hunting knife on your belt. |
I understand your frustration and it pisses me off as well. I, as a matter of routine, walk to my mailbox across the street with an XD45 service almost everyday OC. That could probably put me in jail but not if concealed. I mow my lawn, feed the animals, grill outside on my property with my pistol usually open. Why? Because I want to. If a leo ever sees me and has a problem with it I will try to explain to him/her why I have that right. If they want to arrest me then I (reluctantly) submit to arrest and fight it court. And then sue the shit out of them. |
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it's not for me but i doubt it will ever happen. the average joes would freak out about it and the politicians are getting softer and softer these days. i had the cops beating on my door one time for cleaning my ar in the back yard, behind the 6 ft wooden fence ap |
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The way I see it, we have the RIGHT (not privilege) to keep and BEAR arms. Permits are for privileges. Wanna issue permits for CCW? Fine, as long as we have unlicensed OC. Otherwise, our "Right" to "bear" arms really is no right at all. Snowball's chance in hell, though. 
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Bravo scooter, if they don't know the law as LEO's they deserve the reprimand and the lawsuit.
| I lived in AZ. for several years and open carry is good to go out there. I rarely used it, but when it was 120 out it was nice to run to up to the store, cut the yard, etc. etc. without worrying about concealment. I was surprised how few people you saw OCing...they are a shall issue state so most just get their permit...you do however see many more weapons during the summer. |