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8/30/2016 5:25:07 PM EDT
I purchased an Omega OM9-K pistol from Atlantic Firearms last week and picked it up this past Friday.  Overall it's a nice pistol but there is an issue with the 3-lug adapter. My Gemtech MK9K suppressor will not fit over the 3 lug mount. Below is a drawing of the issue. The ID of the suppressor is 0.590" and the OD of the 3-lug mount on the pistol is 0.592". There is a 2 thou clearance issue. What doesn't make sense is the back of the 3-lug mount measures 0.579".



I have called Atlantic on Friday, Monday, and today with no luck on getting help and wanted to see if anyone else is having a similar issue.




Any feedback would be great.






8/30/2016 5:49:06 PM EDT
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Have you emailed our office about this ? We would be glad to help.       [email protected]
8/30/2016 6:02:12 PM EDT
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I just did about an hour ago.
8/30/2016 6:30:16 PM EDT
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10 -4 , You should hear back from us in short order thank you !! Do not worry we will work with both you and Omega to get this figured out.





9/1/2016 1:14:23 PM EDT
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I purchased an Omega OM9-K pistol from Atlantic Firearms last week and picked it up this past Friday.  Overall it's a nice pistol but there is an issue with the 3-lug adapter. My Gemtech MK9K suppressor will not fit over the 3 lug mount. Below is a drawing of the issue. The ID of the suppressor is 0.590" and the OD of the 3-lug mount on the pistol is 0.592". There is a 2 thou clearance issue. What doesn't make sense is the back of the 3-lug mount measures 0.579".

I have called Atlantic on Friday, Monday, and today with no luck on getting help and wanted to see if anyone else is having a similar issue.


Any feedback would be great.


http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m55/jweber_1/90945D00-95A7-41B7-9CE3-9AE1BD77E1F9_zpsh3p1tzbi.jpg

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For what its worth, my Gemtech Raptor wouldn't originally fit on mine either.  A little dose of light sanding all around the lugs with some sanding cloth roll to thin out the finish helped.  Its still a little snug compared to my factory HK barrel'ed gun but works.
9/1/2016 3:17:16 PM EDT
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A R Guy ,  thanks for the feedback on that ! Out of hundreds of Omega guns shipped thus far we have had 3 firearms with the fitment issues 2 were thicker paint and one was a issue with the customers suppressor mount being out of spec.The guns are tested for 3 Lug mount before paint and they all pass . Going forward Omega will also be checking then after paint and has purchased a few other suppressor mounts from various manufacturers so they can be tested with 3 -4 major brands.  How do you like your Omega pistol ?  As always the feedback is appreciated.

Here is a pic of the Omega Full Sized pistol with the SB Tactical brace , pretty sweet set up.





9/2/2016 3:14:45 PM EDT
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Small update:



The upper receiver was sent back to Omega and they will be examining it early my next week. They think the paint may be a little thick on the 3-lug mount.






9/13/2016 5:40:40 PM EDT
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Did you get this resolved?

I just picked up mine today and my silencerco 3 lug went on partially without much force but is seized on mount. Tried soaking it in oil, tapping with mallet and it is rock solid stuck. Emailed Atlantic and hope to hear back from them tomorrow on what I should do. Unfortunately my only 3 lug will have go back to them to get fixed so I will be without a mount.

Update. Got it off finally with slow steady tapping with brass punch. Was able to see where it was binding. Some light abrasive pad and it now slides on and off much easier. Overall gun looks great. My only other complaint is the 3 lug is about 5 degrees off but my zenith are way off so probably just nitpicking on my part but I was hoping to get one nice and straight.
9/13/2016 7:54:44 PM EDT
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A R Guy ,  thanks for the feedback on that ! Out of hundreds of Omega guns shipped thus far we have had 3 firearms with the fitment issues 2 were thicker paint and one was a issue with the customers suppressor mount being out of spec.The guns are tested for 3 Lug mount before paint and they all pass . Going forward Omega will also be checking then after paint and has purchased a few other suppressor mounts from various manufacturers so they can be tested with 3 -4 major brands.  How do you like your Omega pistol ?  As always the feedback is appreciated.

Here is a pic of the Omega Full Sized pistol with the SB Tactical brace , pretty sweet set up.




http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/images/stories/virtuemart/product/omagafsp%20(13%20of%2015).jpg
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Why do so many clones seem to have a bulge in the sheet metal receiver around/immediately behind the trunion? It's very noticeable on the omega fullsize in your photo. And I noticed it on a coharie fullsize ca89 I used to own.
9/13/2016 8:23:47 PM EDT
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I think the material there is the weld seems where the trunion is welded to the receiver.
9/13/2016 9:09:13 PM EDT
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It doesn't look HK correct and I don't believe the trunion is welded in that location on German guns. It seems to be present on every clone other than those built by the really top clone builders.
9/14/2016 10:13:14 AM EDT
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Which part are you talking about? The "spot welds" on the sides? The welds where the side rails stop? I'm not sure which you are referring to as both are on German guns.

Edit: Are you talking about that weird anomaly directly above the side rail front weld on the fullsize photo AA posted? Because yeah that is an anomaly. Its hard to tell what it is though... paint drip? Bulge? The photo is too small to zoom in and see what it is.
9/14/2016 8:29:31 PM EDT
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Edit: Are you talking about that weird anomaly directly above the side rail front weld on the fullsize photo AA posted? Because yeah that is an anomaly. Its hard to tell what it is though... paint drip? Bulge? The photo is too small to zoom in and see what it is.
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Yeah, that's the spot. It's a bulge.


9/14/2016 8:40:11 PM EDT
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None of my MKEs have a bulge there, neither does my Vector nor my Coharie. And of course my old SP89 doesn't have a bulge.

I can't say I've seen a bulge like that on another clone in person. Then again I don't think I've been looking for it... and I don't really see many clones these days outside of the ones I and my friends own.

If I had to place a guess I'd think perhaps it is an improper clamping / vice mount while the receiver is being welded up or the trunnion is being installed. I would think it would not be much of a leap of logic to assume that the lower tier clone makers may not have the "correct" tools to roll / form / weld receivers and they are just making due with what they have?
9/14/2016 9:11:00 PM EDT
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None of my MKEs have a bulge there, neither does my Vector nor my Coharie. And of course my old SP89 doesn't have a bulge.

I can't say I've seen a bulge like that on another clone in person. Then again I don't think I've been looking for it... and I don't really see many clones these days outside of the ones I and my friends own.

If I had to place a guess I'd think perhaps it is an improper clamping / vice mount while the receiver is being welded up or the trunnion is being installed. I would think it would not be much of a leap of logic to assume that the lower tier clone makers may not have the "correct" tools to roll / form / weld receivers and they are just making due with what they have?
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Omega is the Bailey family, right? I've heard it's still Todd's equipment being used to make Omegas...I've never noticed that bulge before, either.
9/14/2016 10:41:36 PM EDT
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Are they Bailey related? I thought the Omega guns were predominantly RCM and the last vestiges of the old Bailey empire had finally been swept away?
9/14/2016 10:49:32 PM EDT
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I don't think so. Wade Bailey works there for sure. I read some posts on HKPro a while back that alleged that he bought Todd's tooling from him. I have absolutely no way to know one way or another, but I don't like the look of the extremely deep stamping on the top of the receiver or the bulge behind the trunion.

I would love to pay Omega money for my next MP5 instead of TPM money, but I'm pretty sure I'll be going back to the TPM well for the next purchase.
9/14/2016 11:05:57 PM EDT
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Yup I just found the HKPro thread. That is kind of disappointing to hear, I had hopes that Omega was going to be next great domestic maker... there certainly was a big push recently on several sites to show their quality and pedigree (RCM guts). I was seriously considering one of the SD receivers in the near future as well.

9/14/2016 11:38:01 PM EDT
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I saw it on my Coharie CA89. It was less noticeable, but it was there.
9/30/2016 11:52:43 AM EDT
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Update:



The pistol was sent back to Omega and the 3-lug mount was fixed.  The suppressor now fits.  
9/30/2016 3:22:31 PM EDT
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MP5T , They now are not putting on as thick of coat of paint on the 3 lug helping eliminate this potential issue. How is the gun working out for you suppressed ?
9/30/2016 3:53:21 PM EDT
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MP5T , They now are not putting on as thick of coat of paint on the 3 lug helping eliminate this potential issue. How is the gun working out for you suppressed ?
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Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. Been traveling too much for work. I may try to run to the range this weekend. I'll give an update when I take it out.
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