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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Adam Webber indicted (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 8/28/2014 5:03:05 AM EDT
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A federal grand jury has indicted a Salt Lake County man for selling firearms over the Internet without a license, smuggling arms and filing false tax returns. Adam Michael Webber faces up to 33 years in prison if convicted of the charges that were made public on Monday. |
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This is THE hkparts.net? http://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/About-HKPARTS-d14.htm According to this, yes. ETA - Beat |
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Looks like they seized a boat load of firearms from him.
Indictment http://www.justice.gov/tax/2014/AMWebber_Indictment.pdf Firearms http://www.justice.gov/tax/2014/AMWebber_1AIndictmentAttachment.pdf |
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Looks like they seized a boat load of firearms from him. Indictment http://www.justice.gov/tax/2014/AMWebber_Indictment.pdf Firearms http://www.justice.gov/tax/2014/AMWebber_1AIndictmentAttachment.pdf Looks mainly like tax evasion and a hint of ITAR violations but that's not really specified. Lots of "forfeiture" language. Boatload of P7 pistols. This statement needs a bit of expansion, "On or about June 20,2007, Defendant WEBBER signed a Stipulated Settlement Agreement with the United States in which he agreed never to apply for a Federal firearms license or be a responsible person for any Federal firearms licensee or business, and that he would not engage in the business of manufacturing, importing, or dealing in firearms" I wonder what drove that? |
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As did I yesterday...hope they are still shipping. ETA: Whew! Just rec'd my "shipped" notification. Quoted:
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I just placed an order with them today....  As did I yesterday...hope they are still shipping. ETA: Whew! Just rec'd my "shipped" notification. Same! ordered at 7amish, shipped at 1030am |
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This statement needs a bit of expansion, "On or about June 20,2007, Defendant WEBBER signed a Stipulated Settlement Agreement with the United States in which he agreed never to apply for a Federal firearms license or be a responsible person for any Federal firearms licensee or business, and that he would not engage in the business of manufacturing, importing, or dealing in firearms" I wonder what drove that? My guess is they previously hit him with dealing without a license, and as part of the deal he promised to do it again. Also recall, 2007 is around the time frame he was working with the MK5 guy. |
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Be careful about admitting that you bought something that the government thinks that they didn't get their tax on. I would imagine if the Fed wanted to chase us down all they would have to do is let their fingers do the walking through HKParts.com's customer purchase records. He was not a cash business and I'm sure he has a paper trail a mile long with all of our credit card data on it. |
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Quoted: Is it still ok to keep buying on HKParts.net 
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It's possible, but I doubt his problem initially was dealing without a licence. Normally you get a warning and are told to apply for an FFL if you are going to be in the business of selling firearms. He may have been ineligible to apply for an FFL for some reason. He must have partnered with someone who had an FFL as it looks like he bought an entire police trade in shipment from HK. That is likely the core of the problem. The tax evasion stuff is most likely income from the sale of firearms which he would not have declared since he was unlicenced. So the tax thing, while actually the more serious charges, might be a bit overblown.
I would be more disturbed that IRS Special Agents were involved. These are not auditors...there are very few of them and they go after major criminal cases. They are frequently used to take down drug dealers etc. I worked with one on a federal drug task force years ago. He had been involved in taking down the spy, Aldrich Ames. They are extremely thorough.... Quoted:
My guess is they previously hit him with dealing without a license, and as part of the deal he promised to do it again. Also recall, 2007 is around the time frame he was working with the MK5 guy. Quoted:
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This statement needs a bit of expansion, "On or about June 20,2007, Defendant WEBBER signed a Stipulated Settlement Agreement with the United States in which he agreed never to apply for a Federal firearms license or be a responsible person for any Federal firearms licensee or business, and that he would not engage in the business of manufacturing, importing, or dealing in firearms" I wonder what drove that? My guess is they previously hit him with dealing without a license, and as part of the deal he promised to do it again. Also recall, 2007 is around the time frame he was working with the MK5 guy. |
| Looks like conspiracy to me. He was using his assets to purchase every P7 available to own the market by buying up everyone he could so he could profit on their "rarity" (ala DeBeers with diamond stocks). Looks like it wasn't such a smart business decision after all. I mean, yes, no one was hurt in the commission of his "crimes" so I am not 'outraged' or anything. I just hope he has to pay a fine and that's it. Prison time for this is absurd. |
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Looks like conspiracy to me. He was using his assets to purchase every P7 available to own the market by buying up everyone he could so he could profit on their "rarity" (ala DeBeers with diamond stocks). Looks like it wasn't such a smart business decision after all. I mean, yes, no one was hurt in the commission of his "crimes" so I am not 'outraged' or anything. I just hope he has to pay a fine and that's it. Prison time for this is absurd. Looks like you are full of shit to me. IP check on aisle one please. |
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Looks like conspiracy to me. He was using his assets to purchase every P7 available to own the market by buying up everyone he could so he could profit on their "rarity" (ala DeBeers with diamond stocks). Looks like it wasn't such a smart business decision after all. I mean, yes, no one was hurt in the commission of his "crimes" so I am not 'outraged' or anything. I just hope he has to pay a fine and that's it. Prison time for this is absurd. Heck of a first post..... 
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Looks like conspiracy to me. He was using his assets to purchase every P7 available to own the market by buying up everyone he could so he could profit on their "rarity" (ala DeBeers with diamond stocks). Looks like it wasn't such a smart business decision after all. I mean, yes, no one was hurt in the commission of his "crimes" so I am not 'outraged' or anything. I just hope he has to pay a fine and that's it. Prison time for this is absurd. Conspiracy to do what? |
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Looks like conspiracy to me. He was using his assets to purchase every P7 available to own the market by buying up everyone he could so he could profit on their "rarity" (ala DeBeers with diamond stocks). Looks like it wasn't such a smart business decision after all. I mean, yes, no one was hurt in the commission of his "crimes" so I am not 'outraged' or anything. I just hope he has to pay a fine and that's it. Prison time for this is absurd. What are you talking about? Crimes and prison time? Unless something changed while I slept last night this man is presumed innocent until proven guilty. How would you have any idea if this is a conspiracy, do you have some special access to the facts of this case? You've been watching too much liberal news! You don't have the right to decide if he's guilty. Only a judge or a jury can decide that. After a trial! 
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Heck of a first post..... Quoted:
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Looks like conspiracy to me. He was using his assets to purchase every P7 available to own the market by buying up everyone he could so he could profit on their "rarity" (ala DeBeers with diamond stocks). Looks like it wasn't such a smart business decision after all. I mean, yes, no one was hurt in the commission of his "crimes" so I am not 'outraged' or anything. I just hope he has to pay a fine and that's it. Prison time for this is absurd. Heck of a first post..... He just bought one shipment from HK. PW Arms bought several shipments and HK starting bringing them in on their own as well. He most certainly did not "corner" the market. Apparently the misunderstanding between Adam and the BATFE is he partnered with an FFL to accomplish this and he claims the agreement with the BATFE was vague and did not specifically prohibit this. |
[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Adam Webber indicted (Page 1 of 2)
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