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Posted: 10/20/2009 10:25:53 AM EDT
| A few years ago I remember reading an article detailing the HK UMP in .40cal failing the FBI's required "torture" test. My webfu is weak and I cannot find any links to the study or even any mention of it. Would any of you guys be able to help me out? |
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I believe it "failed" when they fired a round through the blocked bore and the barrel split......... You can break an anvil if you try hard enough.
Having owned a USC and having put just over 4000 rounds through it, I can tell you that the UMP/USC design is very easy to operate and maintain and was infallible, even with crummy reloads and using a magazine conversion kit. I tried checking the HKPRO archives, but encountered some page loading issues. |
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I believe it "failed" when they fired a round through the blocked bore and the barrel split......... You can break an anvil if you try hard enough. That may have been part of the test, I believe the P30 can supposedly be fired with an obstructed bore... |
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I believe it "failed" when they fired a round through the blocked bore and the barrel split......... You can break an anvil if you try hard enough. That may have been part of the test, I believe the P30 can supposedly be fired with an obstructed bore... same as the MP5, assume its due to the barrel being cold hammer forged |
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I believe it "failed" when they fired a round through the blocked bore and the barrel split......... You can break an anvil if you try hard enough. That may have been part of the test, I believe the P30 can supposedly be fired with an obstructed bore... same as the MP5, assume its due to the barrel being cold hammer forged Yeah the USP and Mark23 handguns are designed this way as well. The barrel will bulge but not burst. I would be surprised if the UMP barrel actually split open, of all the current HK parts, of the few items there is still no compromise on, the barrels are one. They are some of the best in the business! |
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I don't know why HK stopped making the roller locked guns and started doing this plastic garbage.  Cost, I would say. The roller locked guns were rock solid reliable, but also cost a considerable amount of money. At the time of it's introduction it would cost around 850$. Not to mention it was no doubt easier to mold plastic, then to stamp steel then weld all the parts together. They were an old design that just cost too much. Not to mention that some agencies were switching to other platforms or platforms that cost less. |
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I don't know why HK stopped making the roller locked guns and started doing this plastic garbage. I actually like my "plastic garbage" gun better than my roller locked guns. My $0.02 Im with HK94dude. Me three  )tp://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac180/AssSupt/HK/P1060212.jpg]http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac180/AssSupt/HK/P1060212.jpg[/url]me four (bean you need some ritz ) |
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Quoted: Quoted: I actually like my "plastic garbage" gun better than my roller locked guns. My $0.02 That's quite funny coming from a guy with HK94dude as a screen name. That would be like me saying I like the 40 Short & Weak better than the 10mm ACP round. blasphemy, I love my 10mm guns....but, I know what you're saying 
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