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Posted: 7/17/2007 7:31:57 PM EDT
| to buy a semi mp5 clone and make it FA? |
the FOPA 86' was actually a pro-gun bill that contained a concession for the anti-gun crowd - the 86' MG ban. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act |
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Yes, you would need to start off with buying a register sear that has been on the NFA books since May of 86 when the Firearm Protection Act took effect. On the positive note, the tax stamp for the registered sear is only $200 to have it registered/transferred to you, but on the down side since there are limited numbers of auto sears on the National firearms act of the1968 books, the current price is around $13,000 for the single little part and rising in cost daily. Once you had the sear transferred to you, then figure around $1000 more to have it fitted to the trigger pack/mods to the weapon parts to make it work if the other parts where neutered to a semi only configuration. The acts of congress that you have to remember for civilian possession of a MG are the 1934 National Firearms Act, which required that all MG’s be registered with a $200 tax stamp fee/process. With the Firearm Owners Protection act 1968, there was an import ban on MG’s into the country for form 4 ownership. In 1986, the new Firearm Protection Act prevented any new Machine guns from being entered into the NFA registry of 1934 for civilian owner ship. Now this all lays out is for form 4 ownership (private citizen method) of a MP-5, the factory rifle would have needed to be imported to the states before 1968. Since they didn’t even exist then, auto sears where USA made/registered on the books before the 86 act, and how imported semi’s where converted into MP-5’s (back then, HK-94 where the host rifles, and the registered auto sears are/have the Machine gun in the eyes of the Batf, with the rifle built around it considered the host unit, imported or not). |
any transferable MG's that were registered by 1986 are able to be purchased by you(assuming they're for sale). then you have dealer samples. anything in private hands that was manufactured after 1986 is a post dealer sample. you could obtain one, but you'd have to become a class III dealer or a manufacturer. let me clarify a bit... it's a matter of supply and demand. i don't know how many transferable machineguns are out there, but i've heard the number 250,000 thrown around before, so we'll go with that. let's say there were 250,000 transferable machineguns in 1987. what happens to that number as time goes on? many will be bought up by collectors never to be seen on the market again, owners may die and their firearms may be disposed of, the guns may be used so heavily that they've gotten to be beyond repair, maybe a few get stolen... bottom line, that supply is constantly shrinking each year, and the demand is increasing. as a result, those prices are increasing pretty quickly. anything you'll be able to purchase is going to be expensive. unfortunately 
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and as i take it the price has no where to go but up..  damn. |
 this means that poor college students such as you or myself may very well be locked out of the full auto game. however, deals pop up every now and then. a member of the saiga-12 forums came across an M11/9 for $900 a couple years ago... |
I would not say that. You may be locked out of the MP5 game, but there are many more machine guns to be had at lower prices. |
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The best deals on MGs are (just my opinion, based on my personal research): M11/9, $3,000-$4,000 Uzi, $6,000-$8,000 AC556, $5,500-$7,000 FNC, $6,000-$7,500 The M11/9 is the cheapest but also only about half the quality of the others. The Ruger AC556 (Mini-14) is the only one of the market that still gets factory support for repair work. A registered receiver Uzi can support 9mm, .45 auto, and .22... if it was registered for those calibers. The AC556 can take a .22 Ciener upgrade and usually also does a 3-shot burst. I'd like to get a HK registered sear, as I'll soon have three weapons that could use it. But that's still a lot of money. I might end up getting an Uzi or AC556. But one key piece of information here: Unlike any of your other toys, this one is pretty much guaranteed to increase in value. |
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whats an FNC? |
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=118&t=455275 |
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