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Posted: 1/26/2005 7:41:44 AM EDT
| I just got my first issue of Maxim magazine, and it has a cool article in it about the soldiers that looted the hussein's palaces and they also found the majority of the money Uday withdrew before the first strike. What caught my attention was that the soldiers found 10 of the MP5 briefcases. Are there any transferable briefcases around, and if so how much are they going for? Also if they are not available, could a guy get one of the briefcases, and put his own semi hk clone in there? I would just want one for the showing of friends value and that they are really cool. Thanks |
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Seems to be a state law issue, this was pulled from CA law books: Possession of other firearms and related items may be punished as either a misdemeanor or as a felony. This includes, but is not limited to:(1) any firearm that is not immediately recognizable as a firearm; (2) any camouflaging firearm container; (3) any ammunition which contains any flechette dart; (4) any bullet containing or carrying an explosive agent; (5) any multiburst trigger activator; (6) any short-barreled shotgun or rifle; (7) any zip gun; and (8) any unconventional pistol. I seem to remember reading somewhere that a briefcase gun fell into that catagory. Same for cane guns and other weapons not immidiatly recognizable(Another misnomer from CA law, a firearm is a firearm because of it's functions, not because it looks like a gun). Hope it helps!! |
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The briefcases can be had for as little as $1,000. You will need either a H&K SP-89 (must register as AOW) or a MP5K (not MP5K-PDW) to put inside the briefcase. That will cost either ~$3K or ~$13K, depending on which route you go. They are neat for about 5 minutes and then you realize how useless they are. btw, they are intended to be fired sideways, with the long side of the case parallel to the ground. |
Hkrazy I don't thin that's correct. It's the firearm that is registered because it becomes disguised once put in the briefcase. You could move the SP89 AOW to another case, say a Samsonite you bought and modified, without any need of additional registration. To prove the point - when you register the SP89 as an AOW, what do you put your name and serial number on? Answer: The SP89, not the case. |
Is that what you meant, Phil? We do know when you want to puty a K-grip on, the host gun has to be registered as an AOW and the serial number used is that of the SP89 - you don't register the grip. |
Shaggy, you're on target with the same point. I was talking about the SP89 and briefcase - you register and mark the SP89. Again, when adding the K-grip, you register and mark the SP89. Last example - register a SBR AR-15, and you mark the lower, not the 10" upper. |
HKrazy. The briefcase has no serial number, so you can't register it. When buying this briefcase, the buyer needs to make sure that his SP89 is registered as AOW and of course if his is either RR or sear MP5K, then he's set. |
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It is the combination of the briefcase and gun that is registered as an AOW. Technically, an SP89 can not be registered as an AOW because it is a pistol. If you plan on adding a forward grip or a briefcase you can register it as a AOW. It is the combination of parts that is registered. On the Form 1 you describe what makes the gun an AOW. How else would the ATF know it is a NFA firearm? From bardwell's NFA FAQ.
Here is a ATF letter on wallet holsters that contains pertinent info:
Full letter Here. |
I think your interpretation draws a distinction where there is none. Citing another example, an AR15 possessed alone is not an NFA fiream. An AR15 possessed with a M16 fire control group and bolt carrier is considered a machinegun by ATF. While the AR15 alone is not an AOW, when coupled together with machinegun parts, becomes a machinegun. In that situation, what constitutes the machinegun? The lower of the AR15. You would not register the selector, sear, bolt carrier etc. This is probably a metaphysical discussion only. |
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