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Posted: 9/19/2016 12:31:53 AM EDT
| Is the cetme a decent gun for the $$$? Aren't they pretty well fal rifles? Parts interchangeability? Don't they take the cheap G3 mags as well? Thanks for the input! |
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the CETME is the grandfather of the HK91. after the war some german rifle designers made the rifle for the Spanish army. HK later bought the rights to make their own version (HK91/G3). though similar, parts are not interchangeable.
you might be thinking of the G1, that is a FAL rifle the only thing I don't particular like about the CETME is the windage adjustment. it's a "cammed" front sight. it doesn't give you a lot of wiggle room. the trunion has to be welded in the receiver perfectly straight, if it's off you'll run out of adjustment and still not be any closer to the POA . I had that happen when I bought a CENTURY CETME back in 1999/2000, sent it back and got a replacement that shot POI to POA without touching the sight. as for using G3 mags in the CETME, on mine I can use the G3 mags without any issues with jams, misfeeds etc... don't know about the newer ones on the market. when I bought mine, G3 mags were like 45 or 50 bucks a pop compared to 7 dollars or so for a CETME MAG. much later the market was flooded with cheap G3 mags for a couple of dollars. that is what pissed the HK guys off to no end, they were buying expensive G3 mags. then all of a sudden, overnight, those mags were worthless and they couldn't even sell them for 10 bucks a pop. that is when I stocked up on G3 mags, they were even cheaper then the CETME mags 
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The CETME is a roller-delayed blowback operated rifle with a stamped and welded sheet metal steel receiver. The CETME has no gas system and a fluted chamber. The charging handle is on a cocking tube above the barrel behind the front sight. It has no last-round bolt hold-open and no bolt stop/release. They are supposed to use a paddle magazine release but most on the US market are not so equipped, leaving a relatively hard to reach button as the only option. In order to use optics you will typically need a "claw mount" but some of the later models from Century have a rail welded right on the receiver.
The FAL is a tilting-bolt locked breech rifle with a short stroke gas operating system. It uses a milled forged or cast steel receiver with a pivoting lower itself either made from steel or aluminum. It has both a last-round bolt hold-open and a bolt release. It also uses a lever magazine release. In order to use optics you will need a railed top cover. 
They are both 7.62 NATO and both are similar size and weight, but design-wise they are completely different rifles and share no parts in common. |
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Trivia time: FN made an experimental magazine that had no base plate- FAL feed lips on one end, CETME on the other. No kidding. Also, the CETME mag loader will also work with FN mags. Quoted:
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share no parts in common. Trivia time: FN made an experimental magazine that had no base plate- FAL feed lips on one end, CETME on the other. No kidding. Also, the CETME mag loader will also work with FN mags. Woah, how would that work? And why? |
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share no parts in common. Trivia time: FN made an experimental magazine that had no base plate- FAL feed lips on one end, CETME on the other. No kidding. Also, the CETME mag loader will also work with FN mags. Woah, how would that work? And why? Mind:blown. 
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wow, that is neat. as soon as I saw that, it reminded me of a commercial I saw as a kid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8zwnXjIjPM on the plus side, having one mag to fit 2 different rifles will certainly alleviate any space issues. |
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share no parts in common. Trivia time: FN made an experimental magazine that had no base plate- FAL feed lips on one end, CETME on the other. No kidding. Also, the CETME mag loader will also work with FN mags. Woah, how would that work? And why? Mind:blown.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa143/friscochris/Mobile%20Uploads/tumblr_mds2qeNRKN1r9khx4o1_500_zpsvxzptn20.jpg Wow! Never heard of this thing before thanks for sharing! A real nightmare to keep dirt/sand out of it 
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Wow! Never heard of this thing before thanks for sharing! A real nightmare to keep dirt/sand out of it
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share no parts in common. Trivia time: FN made an experimental magazine that had no base plate- FAL feed lips on one end, CETME on the other. No kidding. Also, the CETME mag loader will also work with FN mags. Woah, how would that work? And why? Mind:blown.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa143/friscochris/Mobile%20Uploads/tumblr_mds2qeNRKN1r9khx4o1_500_zpsvxzptn20.jpg Wow! Never heard of this thing before thanks for sharing! A real nightmare to keep dirt/sand out of it
There's a reason these never made into production. |
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There's a reason these never made into production. Or possibly even prototype? Haven't found any pictures. My initial thought was that it would be able to feed either rifle at any time, not that one follower would turn into the "baseplate" for the other.. that was really baking my noodle for a bit
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Or possibly even prototype? Haven't found any pictures. My initial thought was that it would be able to feed either rifle at any time, not that one follower would turn into the "baseplate" for the other.. that was really baking my noodle for a bit Quoted:
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There's a reason these never made into production. Or possibly even prototype? Haven't found any pictures. My initial thought was that it would be able to feed either rifle at any time, not that one follower would turn into the "baseplate" for the other.. that was really baking my noodle for a bit I, too, doubt it made that far. Germany got rid of the G1 pretty quickly after the G3 came into service, so the need for such a device was quickly diminished. |
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I, too, doubt it made that far. Germany got rid of the G1 pretty quickly after the G3 came into service, so the need for such a device was quickly diminished. Quoted:
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Quoted: There's a reason these never made into production. Or possibly even prototype? Haven't found any pictures. My initial thought was that it would be able to feed either rifle at any time, not that one follower would turn into the "baseplate" for the other.. that was really baking my noodle for a bit I, too, doubt it made that far. Germany got rid of the G1 pretty quickly after the G3 came into service, so the need for such a device was quickly diminished. Well, perhaps that mag didn't make it into production, but I remember Mini-14/AR mags being advertised back in the 1980's. AR on one end, Mini-14 on the other. As close as the Mini-14 ever came to using AR mags. http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=17&t=329165 |
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Can a cetme even be suppressed? I would think the extra backpressure would be damaging to the action. Quoted:
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I have both, get the FAL. Cetme has a harsh recoil impulse and gets dirty as sin because of the delayed blowback and is harder to clean. Can a cetme even be suppressed? I would think the extra backpressure would be damaging to the action. I know that the G3 can be suppressed and run reliably with different bolt rollers. I would imagine the CETME would be capable of the same. |
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Can a cetme even be suppressed? I would think the extra backpressure would be damaging to the action. Quoted:
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I have both, get the FAL. Cetme has a harsh recoil impulse and gets dirty as sin because of the delayed blowback and is harder to clean. Can a cetme even be suppressed? I would think the extra backpressure would be damaging to the action. Roller-delayed rifles are used with suppressors all the time.The extra back pressure probably does cause more forceful cycling, but the same is true of gas system guns like the AR15, FAL, AK, etc... |
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