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Posted: 5/20/2012 5:28:47 AM EDT
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I've been shooting up some Israeli surplus ammo that is boxer primed, and my plan has been to reload it for the FAL. I tried sizing some of this brass last night, and it is taking a LOT of force to resize it. I measured the brass base diameter before and after, and I'm reducing the diameter by about 0.002". For those that have reloaded for the FAL, does this seem reasonable? It doesn't seem like I'm going to get many reloads on this brass if I'm working it that much. Any tips/tricks for reloading for the FAL, especially resizing? I'm loading on an old RCBS press that is a single linkage rather than double, and I'm putting a TON of force into the press compared to resizing .308 for my bolt gun.
I guess that I'm trying to get some affirmation that I'm not doing something wrong. Also, any tips would be appreciated... Thanks all! Nick |
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Quoted: I've been shooting up some Israeli surplus ammo that is boxer primed, and my plan has been to reload it for the FAL. I tried sizing some of this brass last night, and it is taking a LOT of force to resize it. I measured the brass base diameter before and after, and I'm reducing the diameter by about 0.002". For those that have reloaded for the FAL, does this seem reasonable? It doesn't seem like I'm going to get many reloads on this brass if I'm working it that much. Any tips/tricks for reloading for the FAL, especially resizing? I'm loading on an old RCBS press that is a single linkage rather than double, and I'm putting a TON of force into the press compared to resizing .308 for my bolt gun. I guess that I'm trying to get some affirmation that I'm not doing something wrong. Also, any tips would be appreciated... Thanks all! Nick Scrap that Israeli brass and use USGI or commercial brass. |
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I've been shooting up some Israeli surplus ammo that is boxer primed, and my plan has been to reload it for the FAL. I tried sizing some of this brass last night, and it is taking a LOT of force to resize it. I measured the brass base diameter before and after, and I'm reducing the diameter by about 0.002". For those that have reloaded for the FAL, does this seem reasonable? It doesn't seem like I'm going to get many reloads on this brass if I'm working it that much. Any tips/tricks for reloading for the FAL, especially resizing? I'm loading on an old RCBS press that is a single linkage rather than double, and I'm putting a TON of force into the press compared to resizing .308 for my bolt gun. I guess that I'm trying to get some affirmation that I'm not doing something wrong. Also, any tips would be appreciated... Thanks all! Nick Scrap that Israeli brass and use USGI or commercial brass. What makes you think that there is something wrong with the brass? |
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Quoted: All of the Israeli 308/762 brass that I have tried to reload was very hard and brittle. Israeli pistol and 556 brass has been excellent. Quoted: Quoted: I've been shooting up some Israeli surplus ammo that is boxer primed, and my plan has been to reload it for the FAL. I tried sizing some of this brass last night, and it is taking a LOT of force to resize it. I measured the brass base diameter before and after, and I'm reducing the diameter by about 0.002". For those that have reloaded for the FAL, does this seem reasonable? It doesn't seem like I'm going to get many reloads on this brass if I'm working it that much. Any tips/tricks for reloading for the FAL, especially resizing? I'm loading on an old RCBS press that is a single linkage rather than double, and I'm putting a TON of force into the press compared to resizing .308 for my bolt gun. I guess that I'm trying to get some affirmation that I'm not doing something wrong. Also, any tips would be appreciated... Thanks all! Nick Scrap that Israeli brass and use USGI or commercial brass. What makes you think that there is something wrong with the brass? |
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All of the Israeli 308/762 brass that I have tried to reload was very hard and brittle. Israeli pistol and 556 brass has been excellent.
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I've been shooting up some Israeli surplus ammo that is boxer primed, and my plan has been to reload it for the FAL. I tried sizing some of this brass last night, and it is taking a LOT of force to resize it. I measured the brass base diameter before and after, and I'm reducing the diameter by about 0.002". For those that have reloaded for the FAL, does this seem reasonable? It doesn't seem like I'm going to get many reloads on this brass if I'm working it that much. Any tips/tricks for reloading for the FAL, especially resizing? I'm loading on an old RCBS press that is a single linkage rather than double, and I'm putting a TON of force into the press compared to resizing .308 for my bolt gun. I guess that I'm trying to get some affirmation that I'm not doing something wrong. Also, any tips would be appreciated... Thanks all! Nick Scrap that Israeli brass and use USGI or commercial brass. What makes you think that there is something wrong with the brass? Thank you for the input! Is it even worth reloading once or should I just pitch it? |
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I have a couple of Izzy TZ80 cases agound here with very nice spits from side of primer pocket straight up half the case length.
Both happened in a bolt-action Mauser, so there was no drama. Might not get off so easily in an autoloader. http://m14forum.com/ammunition/62703-warning-tz-308-win-bad-danger.html My understanding is that were at least a couple of very bad years for Izzy rifle brass, and very likely more––maybe a lot more. I don't thinK I would re-use the Izzy rifle brass unless and until I had become an expert on which years were OK, and which weren't. Even then, I'd try the first ones out on a sturdy bolt-action rather than a self-loader. What you CAN do is to re-size them, trim to min. length, and leave the expended primer in the case. Then drill a small hole straight through the sides of the case. Seat and tightly crimp a bullet, and you will have a nice dummy cartridge. Dummies are excellent tools for detecting and correcting flinching, a problem that most shooters find crops up now and again. Google "Ball-and-Dummy drills", and you will see how useful some dummies can be. Make a few for your friends, and tell them how to use them. As a dummy, the Izzy brass can be MUCH more of an asset to you than as a live round. |
| I've been full-length sizing Federal, Remington, and Lake City brass for a long time, and it shouldn't take that much force it you're using good lube (I use castor oil). If you're having to use a ton of force then something is not right. Either try some new brass or some new lube. |
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I have a couple of Izzy TZ80 cases agound here with very nice spits from side of primer pocket straight up half the case length. Both happened in a bolt-action Mauser, so there was no drama. Might not get off so easily in an autoloader. http://m14forum.com/ammunition/62703-warning-tz-308-win-bad-danger.html My understanding is that were at least a couple of very bad years for Izzy rifle brass, and very likely more––maybe a lot more. I don't thinK I would re-use the Izzy rifle brass unless and until I had become an expert on which years were OK, and which weren't. Even then, I'd try the first ones out on a sturdy bolt-action rather than a self-loader. I've had two case head separations in my fal without any ill effects but will no longer load commercial brass more than a couple times. The splits you're describing, from the primer pocket up, are the same that some folks are experiencing with steel cased ammo. When this happens, it can destroy a semi auto. |
| What kind of sizing lube are you using? I would suggest Imperial Sizing Wax. Works like a charm on once fired IMI 7.62x51 brass shot from a machine gun. I have never shot nor reloaded Israeli brass so I don't have a guess on how many reloads you get. As long as it isn't resized too much, has tight primer pockets, no splits, or a ring of death you can still give it a go. Just inspect it after every firing if you have concerns. |
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What kind of sizing lube are you using? I would suggest Imperial Sizing Wax. Works like a charm on once fired IMI 7.62x51 brass shot from a machine gun. I have never shot nor reloaded Israeli brass so I don't have a guess on how many reloads you get. As long as it isn't resized too much, has tight primer pockets, no splits, or a ring of death you can still give it a go. Just inspect it after every firing if you have concerns. I am using Imperial Sizing wax. It works fairly well, but this brass is working really hard. I only have a single linkage press though, so maybe it's just me. Maybe I read your post wrong, but IMI is Israeli brass. IMI = Israel Military Industries |
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Whoops, typo on my part. I meant IVI, canadian stuff also used by our military. shot from a machine gun. I ran into a few that were tough to size but i just used a bit more lube. Second reloading was much easier after it was shot from my FAL. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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