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6/25/2005 8:42:02 AM EDT
I am looking purchasing a FAL.
I want  a .308 semi automatic but the AR variants do not appeal to me......Are the weapons available from DSA worth the premium price?
6/25/2005 8:47:50 AM EDT
[#1]
unless you build your own, yes they are.

EDIT: their regular (non fancy-schmansy) rifles arent that much more expensive than the rest.
6/25/2005 9:03:51 AM EDT
[#2]
Start out with something along the lines of the DSA 58A's, excellent value for the money if you buy right. They are exc/unissued Austrian parts built on a DSA receiver. Don't know what the prices/market is like there, but should be able to get into one for $850-900. DSA backs up what they build if you do have a problem; check equip. ex. regularly.
Then, once you're addicted, start accumulating parts and plan a home-build.
6/25/2005 9:11:41 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Start out with something along the lines of the DSA 58A's, excellent value for the money if you buy right. They are exc/unissued Austrian parts built on a DSA receiver. Don't know what the prices/market is like there, but should be able to get into one for $850-900. DSA backs up what they build if you do have a problem; check equip. ex. regularly.
Then, once you're addicted, start accumulating parts and plan a home-build.



That would be the DSA StG58.  The DSA SA58's are a good deal more money.  

Not sure what a DSA 58A is - never heard of it...

6/25/2005 6:08:44 PM EDT
[#4]
OK, my bad, the official designation is DSA STG58A--carbine and rifle version.... this is what DSA calls their builds with Austrian parts kits

I thought 58A covered it pretty well

edit to add: just got off DSA's website, the official-official designation is STG58A AUSTRIAN FAL
6/25/2005 8:15:55 PM EDT
[#5]
DSA is over rated.  Imagine how I feel with my new DSA stg58 that is finicky with mags while my pal has a Century R1A1 that works with all the mags that mine wont.  Not to mention a few extraction problems that his doesnt have.  Oh, did I mention I paid 2 1/2 times more for mine than he did for his?  Thats not a good feeling

Look for a built rifle off the FAL files, one from a seller who'll stand by his work.  I see a really nice STG58 on an Imbel for $650 right now.  Go check out that one and save yourself $400.

Here it is

Also, one of my sight screws snapped off too.
6/25/2005 8:32:48 PM EDT
[#6]
Kingfish, I would be sending that beck in a heartbeat-- they will make it right. I have the rifle and carbine. The rifle is flawless, the carbine was sensitive to a few older range mags I regularly used.  Quit using them, and runs great now. Not an issue only because I have about 30 new mags.
I have a Century on Imbel receiver, and it truly is an excellent performer- it began the FAL odyssey. I have recommended the 58A's to several people that have been very happy, sorry to here that you got a lemon.

By the way, how much did you pay?  Just doing some math from your post, it looks like you must have paid 1050-1100-----prices must be thru the roof in MD. I think my price was 825 rifle, 875 carbine, and I considered the carbine price a gouge----I would be pissed too
6/25/2005 9:34:06 PM EDT
[#7]
I paid $940.  My buddy paid $399 for his Century.  I wouldnt call it a lemon yet.  A guy at the range said it might need to be broken in more because of theheavy park, or I just might need to set the gas more closed (its already on 3).  I replaced the screw myself, it was easy.  Just ruined the day at the range, thats all.  

All in all, I think I should have gone for a STG kit on an Imbel and saved some $$$.
6/26/2005 7:58:10 AM EDT
[#8]
The heavy park is deffinately an issue, I hand cycled the carbine probably 200 times dry, then used Ultima lube and it loosened way up, before I even put a rd. thru it. It would have for sure caused some slow cycling problems if I hadn't done that. The rifle has run 100 percent from the start, and compared to the carbine, is a much cleaner and flawless build.
Another 200-300 rds  ought to tell you whether its a true problem child--good luck with it.
6/26/2005 9:20:31 AM EDT
[#9]
One thing that I noticed that the Century receiver has over the DSA, is the magwell dimensions allow for looser tolerances.  Some not-so-good mags were a tight fit going into mine, while they dropped freely from his magwell (and worked fine).  The Austrian mags seem to be the best, and now thats all I own.  Other mags that I had seemed to be slightly wider (speced them out with calipers) and didnt function as well.  I dont know what kind they were.  I think for reliability, a looser sized magwell is best.  Not a nice secure fit like the DSA, but tight enough, and reliable.
6/27/2005 9:34:27 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
I am looking purchasing a FAL.
I want  a .308 semi automatic but the AR variants do not appeal to me......Are the weapons available from DSA worth the premium price?

yes, they do a awesome job fal or ar    
6/27/2005 1:29:05 PM EDT
[#11]
You can save $300 by going with a FAL from these guys:
www.ohiorapidfire.com/fal.htm
They never update their website so best bet is to call them. When I ordered mine a year maybe 2 years ago they were out of stock. I had them charge my card up front and build me one. They had mine to me in 3 weeks.

The FAL carbine I got from them is a steal of a deal. I just posted a 1.5" 200yd 5 shot group with mine. Is it repeatable? Not sure yet as it's been my best group so far. The next best group I shot that day was 3" at 200yds. THe 200yd range I shoot at is a load one shoot one range, so there are lots of factors involved in getting a perfect 5 shot group. Here's a pic of mine.

6/29/2005 12:38:24 PM EDT
[#12]
+1
6/29/2005 12:42:03 PM EDT
[#13]
DSA makes a great AR, SS flutted bull barrel match chamber, 2 stage trigger, 16"  
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