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12/17/2025 5:39:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Glck1911][Edited] [#1]
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Originally Posted By Daggertt:
I mean, why would form factor affect performance under magnification? Wouldn't it be the sensor and screen resolutions that make the difference regardless of the shape and size of the housing?

It's a AGM RATTLER TC35-384




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Yeah.  The RH25 is definitely going to outperform your 384 Rattler.  Especially since that looks to be a 1st gen one.


As to your first question, I'm not saying it necessarily has to.  If all you are worried about is clip on performance, there are better options than the RH25. There are several Clip-ons that are going to remain useable at higher magnifications than the RH25. Those are all going to be bigger optics. Like I said, if form factor is a consideration the RH25 is going to be hard to beat.

I could have worded it better.  I wasn't trying to say that form factor absolutely has to limit performance. Although, I'd imagine lens size comes into play somewhere.
12/17/2025 6:40:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Glck1911:





Yeah.  The RH25 is definitely going to outperform your 384 Rattler.  Especially since that looks to be a 1st gen one.


As to your first question, I'm not saying it necessarily has to.  If all you are worried about is clip on performance, there are better options than the RH25. There are several Clip-ons that are going to remain useable at higher magnifications than the RH25. Those are all going to be bigger optics. Like I said, if form factor is a consideration the RH25 is going to be hard to beat.

I could have worded it better.  I wasn't trying to say that form factor absolutely has to limit performance. Although, I'd imagine lens size comes into play somewhere.
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yeah I guess I'm not sure what you meant.

I was just pointing out that instead of improving on the RH25 or following in it's form factor footsteps, the market seems to be going in a weird direction that I dislike and don't understand - it looks like companies are just taking their traditional handheld thermals and flipping them on their sides and calling them clip-ons.

I keep hoping to see more options on the market that feel more "tactical" for lack of a better word -like the RH25 - instead of what appear to be European bolt action clip on's half-assedly adapted to the US military-style rifle platforms.

I wasn't making any references to performance.
12/19/2025 5:51:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Daggertt:
I mean, why would form factor affect performance under magnification? Wouldn't it be the sensor and screen resolutions that make the difference regardless of the shape and size of the housing?

It's a AGM RATTLER TC35-384




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I'm far from an expert on the topic, but I think a lot of it has to do with the objective lens size. There is really no getting around that.

The RH25 is a short range/low magnification device in the world of other thermal clip ons.

Once you get into needing a clip on that performs very well and maintain resolution beyond 4x day scope magnification, a lot seems to change in the design of thermal clip ons. The whole form factor thing goes out the window to some extent when you start having to work around a 50mm+ lens.
12/19/2025 8:13:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Daggertt][Edited] [#4]
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Originally Posted By French1966:


I'm far from an expert on the topic, but I think a lot of it has to do with the objective lens size. There is really no getting around that.

The RH25 is a short range/low magnification device in the world of other thermal clip ons.

Once you get into needing a clip on that performs very well and maintain resolution beyond 4x day scope magnification, a lot seems to change in the design of thermal clip ons. The whole form factor thing goes out the window to some extent when you start having to work around a 50mm+ lens.
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Yeah absolutely.

And from what I understand, it's a question of ratios between objective lens size to sensor size and then the distance they are apart which determines native magnification and fov.


And the increasingly small pixel sizes for sensors allow for the same mag/fov/resolution as previous generations in a smaller objective lens meaning a smaller overall package and less geranium so lower cost OR better specs for the same size as before.

So theoretically you should be able to see the same performance in a modern configuration with a smaller lens size that you used to need a 50mm lens to get.

Either way, the new comers to the market I'm taking about and posted pics of don't purport to provide significantly better long distance clip on performance I don't think but they are all designed like handheld devices adapted to clip on use instead of from the ground up as a tactical AR style clip on device in the spirit of the rh25.
2/14/2026 9:55:45 PM EDT
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Just an FYI for those looking for front flip caps for their RH25.

Obviously, the Aimpoint branded rear flip cap for the Aimpoint Comps mentioned earlier in the thread fit perfect on the front of the RH25, but there is another option, also meant for the Aimpoint Comp series, that works as well.

NSN # 1005-01-442-8743

I bought mine from Mod Armory, but I think you can find them on Ebay and a few other sites.







Fitment is tight, cap snaps in place firmly, and it looks like it should have come with it from the factory.
3/29/2026 9:26:27 PM EDT
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What is the typical battery life everyone is getting from the included batteries? Are the higher amp hour nitecores worth buying?
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4/3/2026 9:44:45 AM EDT
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Get something reputable like a Samsung 30q or Molicel P30b.
4/3/2026 7:48:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MrJonesandMe:
Get something reputable like a Samsung 30q or Molicel P30b.
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Care to add any supporting information that says either of those options are superior?
4/7/2026 3:18:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


Care to add any supporting information that says either of those options are superior?
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Nitecore is just a rebranded cell, whether it be Panasonic, Samsung, or LG. So you are essentially paying more for the 18650 because it's in a different wrapper.

I like name brand batteries, it's simple as that. You know what you're getting, they're inexpensive, and reliable.
4/7/2026 7:32:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MrJonesandMe:


Nitecore is just a rebranded cell, whether it be Panasonic, Samsung, or LG. So you are essentially paying more for the 18650 because it's in a different wrapper.

I like name brand batteries, it's simple as that. You know what you're getting, they're inexpensive, and reliable.
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Are you saying the name brand battery is cheaper than the nitecore offering?
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4/9/2026 9:49:19 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mah827:


Are you saying the name brand battery is cheaper than the nitecore offering?
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I am. You can get a nitecore 18650 for around 15-20 dollars, and you can get a samsung 30q or 35e for 5-8 dollars from reputable sources, such as IMR batteries.
5/23/2026 10:51:06 PM EDT
[#12]
Playing around last night when the dogs woke up during a storm.  Trying to take close-up photos but the depth of field is so short.  I have rarely messed with the focus before.  I always love seeing the footprints or pawprints.
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5/24/2026 12:27:05 AM EDT
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What's the best way to use RH25 for hogs with a 12 gauge?
I somehow ass-u-me-d that .300 WinMag that it's rated for had the same recoil as 12 gauge but it turns out that 12g is has greater recoil, so RH25 has now been relegated to detection only.
The only time I have spotted a hog so far I only had a flashlight, and the pig didn't run away when illuminated, so I wonder if WML on the shotgun and red dot will work.
Switching to centerfire like 556 or .308 seems too risky in case I miss in such a dynamic environment, and the bullet goes over to the neighboring properties.
5/24/2026 12:58:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By voyager3:
What's the best way to use RH25 for hogs with a 12 gauge?
I somehow ass-u-me-d that .300 WinMag that it's rated for had the same recoil as 12 gauge but it turns out that 12g is has greater recoil, so RH25 has now been relegated to detection only.
The only time I have spotted a hog so far I only had a flashlight, and the pig didn't run away when illuminated, so I wonder if WML on the shotgun and red dot will work.
Switching to centerfire like 556 or .308 seems too risky in case I miss in such a dynamic environment, and the bullet goes over to the neighboring properties.
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How far over is the shotgun?  Low-recoil slugs and/or tune the gun with 3-gun techniques for les recoil?
But with the thermal to spot, sneaking up with a WML seems pretty fun too.
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6/30/2026 8:37:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mPisi][Edited] [#15]
RH25 V2 for $3295 at US Night Vision right now
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7/1/2026 10:55:58 AM EDT
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RH25V2 on sale JRH Enterprises

A little less expensive from a Site Sponsor. Currently in stock and shipping out same day ordered (7/1/26).
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7/1/2026 4:48:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lowdown3:
RH25V2 on sale JRH Enterprises

A little less expensive from a Site Sponsor. Currently in stock and shipping out same day ordered (7/1/26).
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V2 on sale, means....V3 around the corner?  Anyone know?
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7/1/2026 5:16:30 PM EDT
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My guess, probably not as in next few months, etc. No word on it at all.

I've noticed they do these price drops once every few years, they are usually temporary just to move inventory.
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7/1/2026 5:16:41 PM EDT
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My guess, probably not as in next few months, etc. No word on it at all.

I've noticed they do these price drops once every few years, they are usually temporary just to move inventory.
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8/20/2026 3:04:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lowdown3:
My guess, probably not as in next few months, etc. No word on it at all.

I've noticed they do these price drops once every few years, they are usually temporary just to move inventory.
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@Lowdown3

Any info on how long this price drop will last?
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8/20/2026 3:17:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 2apatriot:


@Lowdown3

Any info on how long this price drop will last?
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No, unfortunately.  As mentioned in the previous post, there is rarely ever notice given more than "this starts now" or "this ends in 2 days" or similar.

They are selling like crazy though and I know there is talk of a short backup because of it.
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8/21/2026 6:16:40 PM EDT
[#22]
V1 $2500 at this random shop
https://oldsteelarsenal.com/product/infiray-outdoor-rico-micro-rh25-640-1x25mm-thermal/
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8/21/2026 9:08:59 PM EDT
[#23]
Surprised anyone has any Version 1s available being as they were discontinued a year or more ago.
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8/25/2026 1:28:10 PM EDT
[#24]
Cheaper NIB V1 on EE now too
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8/30/2026 3:18:06 AM EDT
[#25]
...and a nice shiny V2 on the EE as well.


iRay RH25v2 like new
9/5/2026 3:07:37 PM EDT
[#26]
V1 for $2,048 now from this random shop, apparently NIB but warranty status questionable
https://1503tac.com/products/infiray-irayusa-rh25-v1-rico-micro-640x512-12-micron-25mm-multi-purpose-monocular
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9/8/2026 3:32:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lowdown3:
RH25V2 on sale JRH Enterprises

A little less expensive from a Site Sponsor. Currently in stock and shipping out same day ordered (7/1/26).
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Damn that is a smoking deal

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