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Posted: 8/8/2022 8:33:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i love my M1 garand in 308. and as a navy man. i say they are true garands since the navy converted their M1s from 30\06 to 308. But I also just ordered two WW2 bayonets. But I only have one Garand. The only reasonable solution is to mail out to the CMP to get another one; hoping to get that packet out tomorrow. I learned my lesson on the .308 Experts; time to get off my ass and get my order in before they run out. Not even sure what I'll do with a second. Maybe a Mini-G conversion, maybe "just" another .308. 
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Posted: 8/16/2022 7:03:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As was stated, the Garand will probably never be declared a "assault weapon". For those who live in states with 10 rd limits having a fixed 8 rd magazine is not a real hinderence. The real advantage of the M14/M1A platform is its ability to be easily scoped. I have both. Here are my self built 308 Garands. Full sized and "Tanker". https://i.imgur.com/iREFQh8.jpg https://i.imgur.com/pZTOSMY.jpg How well does your tanker run? And what is the pouch on the tanker's buttstock? If it holds an en-bloc, where can I get one? |
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Posted: 8/17/2022 8:54:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Sailormilan2 How well does your tanker run? And what is the pouch on the tanker's buttstock? If it holds an en-bloc, where can I get one? My Tanker runs fine. I built it using a Woodless Dane from the CMP that had an absolutely worthless barrel on it. The stock pouch holds 2 en blocs, and you can get them from Olangapo Outfitters. Left or right hand, different camo colors, and can be had in .308 or 30-06. Whether or not they have any in stock, you would have to check. They've really been slammed since Covid and the riots in the PNW. I have them for both the Garand and the M1 Carbine. Well made, and work. Though I'm a little iffy on how they attach on a Carbine. https://olongapooutfitters.com/equipment-and-gear/grand-stock-pouch/ |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 5:13:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My Tanker runs fine. I built it using a Woodless Dane from the CMP that had an absolutely worthless barrel on it. The stock pouch holds 2 en blocs, and you can get them from Olangapo Outfitters. Left or right hand, different camo colors, and can be had in .308 or 30-06. Whether or not they have any in stock, you would have to check. They've really been slammed since Covid and the riots in the PNW. I have them for both the Garand and the M1 Carbine. Well made, and work. Though I'm a little iffy on how they attach on a Carbine. https://olongapooutfitters.com/equipment-and-gear/grand-stock-pouch/ My refreshed .308 Garand oughta return tomorrow, I can't wait! Here's to hoping the shipper doesn't screw anything up somehow. |
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Posted: 9/2/2022 9:00:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just bought one, thank you! My refreshed .308 Garand oughta return tomorrow, I can't wait! Here's to hoping the shipper doesn't screw anything up somehow. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My Tanker runs fine. I built it using a Woodless Dane from the CMP that had an absolutely worthless barrel on it. The stock pouch holds 2 en blocs, and you can get them from Olangapo Outfitters. Left or right hand, different camo colors, and can be had in .308 or 30-06. Whether or not they have any in stock, you would have to check. They've really been slammed since Covid and the riots in the PNW. I have them for both the Garand and the M1 Carbine. Well made, and work. Though I'm a little iffy on how they attach on a Carbine. https://olongapooutfitters.com/equipment-and-gear/grand-stock-pouch/ My refreshed .308 Garand oughta return tomorrow, I can't wait! Here's to hoping the shipper doesn't screw anything up somehow. Be sure to post up a few pics of this Bad Boy.  |
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Posted: 9/2/2022 7:49:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Be sure to post up a few pics of this Bad Boy.  Unfortunately I can't get pictures yet, due to competing family priorities. But I am planning on taking it to the range tomorrow. It'll be good to check off another long-time project/grail gun. |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 5:20:50 PM EDT
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Received my rechambered Garand back from Jeremy2171 (same poster as in this thread), and the Worksmanship/pricing/turnaround were great. He kept me informed every step along the way, and mic'd out my parts on my rifle to let me know some that needed replacing. Reasonable prices and a more than fair turnaround time given what I wanted him to do.
I got a chance to put 50 rounds through it, and it worked flawlessly when it was fed from clips that were worth a damn; any issues were 100% the fault of the old, bent surplus clips I was using, and the newer/better condition ones were flawless. It was about 1-1.5 MOA with some ammo, and about 3 MOA with other ammo. I'm quite pleased with Jeremy's work , less so at my clip selection After reading this thread, researching, and thinking on it, I also got a CMP rack grade Garand that I want to send back to Jeremy for a .308 rechamber/re-Arsenal, and then to Shuff for a mini-G conversion with an Ultimak rail. As received the "new" CMP rifle had a horrible stock, but the stock from my "old" rifle matched the new stock almost exactly. I'll get some photos up in the next few days. |
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Posted: 9/5/2022 8:17:51 PM EDT
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I got a couple more pictures, but they hardly do Jeremy's work justice.
Next to its ragged out brother:  And with some bayonet on the end:  |
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Posted: 9/7/2022 6:20:39 AM EDT
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Good lookin M1
I have a CMP built RM1 Special that I truly LOVE to shoot |
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Posted: 9/8/2022 8:24:31 AM EDT
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Very nice! … Congrats.
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Posted: 9/9/2022 6:52:18 PM EDT
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Pictures added to OP.
I still want to get more pictures, this rifle's a beauty. Thanks, Jeremy2171! |
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Posted: 10/12/2022 8:37:21 PM EDT
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Finally got some better pictures of this rifle:
 But now, Jeremy2171 has again worked his magic on getting my 2nd Garand, a Rack grade, converted to .308 with an ultimak install. While it's already gorgeous, this rifle will soon be off for a Shuff's Mini-G treatment, which I didn't even know existed before this thread. You guys are costing me money.  |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 8:01:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Finally got some better pictures of this rifle: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/129976/36C6BB83-9CFF-49EE-BC66-D1475612D8D4-2556872.jpg But now, Jeremy2171 has again worked his magic on getting my 2nd Garand, a Rack grade, converted to .308 with an ultimak install. While it's already gorgeous, this rifle will soon be off for a Shuff's Mini-G treatment, which I didn't even know existed before this thread. You guys are costing me money. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/129976/1384E803-E984-4951-9E19-8957D76F795E-2556873.jpg And now I wait. |
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Posted: 12/13/2022 6:47:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Today I sent my second .308 Garand off for a Shuff's Mini-G conversion. Because "get both" seemed like a great answer. And now I wait. They still said it would be 90 days from receipt of everything until I received my rifle back, but oh well; I'm 2/3 down. |
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Posted: 12/13/2022 8:01:55 PM EDT
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Absolutely gorgeous re-build brother -- and eagerly waiting to see how the mini-Shuff comes out!
Merry Christmas to you -- and looking forward to the Mini-G for the New Year! |
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Posted: 12/13/2022 9:45:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Absolutely gorgeous re-build brother -- and eagerly waiting to see how the mini-Shuff comes out! Merry Christmas to you -- and looking forward to the Mini-G for the New Year! Very nice! Also can’t wait to see how your Mini-G turns out. |
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Posted: 12/24/2022 9:09:35 AM EDT
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Jeremy swapped my Expert Grade barrel over to 308. Zeroed in a few minutes and was hitting 300yd plates too easy! Gonna have to take some pics and make a thread.
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Posted: 12/30/2022 11:22:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jeremy swapped my Expert Grade barrel over to 308. Zeroed in a few minutes and was hitting 300yd plates too easy! Gonna have to take some pics and make a thread. |
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Posted: 1/19/2023 9:49:19 AM EDT
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New ETA is about 2 weeks behind schedule, so nothing more until mid-February
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Posted: 2/14/2023 9:33:06 PM EDT
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I'm almost depressed reading about your Mini G. Mine is currently on the way to Tim, and seeing your timeline, if I'm looking at May or June, I'll need therapy. I'm really leaning towards having my HRA barreled to 308 too but keep the original barrel just in case. This rifle is two parts from being correct, which is the only reason I hesitate. But if I keep the HRA '06 barrel I can return it to correct. Decisions...
Anyway, hurry up and get your G out of the way so I can get mine done! |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 3:33:11 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm almost depressed reading about your Mini G. Mine is currently on the way to Tim, and seeing your timeline, if I'm looking at May or June, I'll need therapy. I'm really leaning towards having my HRA barreled to 308 too but keep the original barrel just in case. This rifle is two parts from being correct, which is the only reason I hesitate. But if I keep the HRA '06 barrel I can return it to correct. Decisions... Anyway, hurry up and get your G out of the way so I can get mine done! I'll email him again on Thursday to check in on its status, as that will be 5 weeks beyond the original finish date. In two more weeks from today, it will have been 90 days from when he cashed my check (which was a while after he received my rifle). It's already been 4 months, at this point I hope it comes back sometime in the next 2, when I am hoping to move.  |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 3:40:02 PM EDT
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Garand all the things! (Don't mind the photo bombing m1a) I can attest to the Mini-G being a very cool piece. And boy is it an attention getter at the range.
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Posted: 3/1/2023 9:54:36 PM EDT
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Got a UPS email that the supposed ETA for the return of my rifle is Friday. But I'm busy during the middle part of that day, so I'm hoping they attempt delivery later in their route/later in the day.
We shall see. ETA: UPS updated to Saturday, which actually works better for me. We'll see. |
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Posted: 3/4/2023 3:32:34 PM EDT
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Mini-G got delivered back here today. I'm currently trying to get the accessories installed on it, hopefully I'll have pictures up later today.
Initial observations: Much, much handier than the full size. It makes me giggle. Also smells like smoke  But that may have been the UPS guy, where he dropped off the box also smelled like smoke
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Posted: 3/4/2023 7:30:54 PM EDT
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Dude you have to post pics! I'm trying to be patient, as Tim confirmed mine arrived ok, but he didn't open the box and USPS confirmed the MO I sent hasn't been cashed. No idea when mine will be done. I sent the parts from Standard for the Beretta gas system, but didn't touch the new CMP stock, figured I'd work on that when it got back. Damn I want to see mine, but I'll settle for seeing yours!
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Posted: 3/4/2023 9:04:43 PM EDT
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As promised, here are a couple of quick pictures of my .308 "Mini-G".
As received:  This was a relief. A whole corder of the box's tape had come undone, and I feared for small parts (like the normal gas lock, and Allen keys for the shuster gas system). Kudos to Fulton Armory's shipping box for surviving trips to two different gunsmiths! With a hair better lighting, after putting on the sling and buttstock pouch:  With bayonet (which might need a hair of relieving to lock fully):  I will work on getting the scope into its rings, and hopefully mounted, later tonight when I have a chance. Aside from the initial smoke smell (which I blame on the UPS driver), my only complaint is that the Ultimak rail seems ever so slightly 2-3* tilted off to the right, but it could just be that Ive never needed to notice before if I was holding a Garand at a slight can't. Nothing that isn't easily overcome during scope adjustments. The whole rifle is considerably handier than before. I can't wait to shoot it, but it might be a couple of days before I can get it to a range. |
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Posted: 3/4/2023 10:21:15 PM EDT
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Here it is with a scope attached:
 I think it's gonna be a lot of fun. |
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Posted: 3/4/2023 11:06:34 PM EDT
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SWEET!! That turned out really nice. I'm on the fence about the rail. Don't get me wrong, I need help with my eyesight, which is why I went with the Beretta gas system, I can add that rail without having to relieve the op-rod, which would mean a trip back to Tim. I went that way so I CAN add an optic if I just can use the irons anymore. But your rifle turned out so nice! I already have my sling and Olangapo pouch ready to go on too. Man I can't wait...
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Posted: 3/4/2023 11:30:54 PM EDT
[#29]
Now that I know it can still mount a 1905/1942 bayonet on there, that's amazingly slick.
Tip off rings on the scout scope, flip up NcStar red dot underneath?
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Posted: 3/4/2023 11:52:34 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Now that I know it can still mount a 1905/1942 bayonet on there, that's amazingly slick. Tip off rings on the scout scope, flip up NcStar red dot underneath? For a minute I thought about adding a WML in some sorta offset mount that attaches under the optic, but there's not a whole lotta clearance there. |
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Posted: 3/4/2023 11:55:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's an M5A1, not a 1942 type. Not with the Smith Enterprises brake. With the normal gas lock, then yes you could mount a typical 1942 type Garand bayonet on it. My M5 might need just a hair bit of relieving on the crossguard to clear the extra girth of the Smith brake, then I'll be able to have a bayonet equipped on my .308-chambered, scout scoped Garand carbine. For a minute I thought about adding a WML in some sorta offset mount that attaches under the optic, but there's not a whole lotta clearance there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Now that I know it can still mount a 1905/1942 bayonet on there, that's amazingly slick. Tip off rings on the scout scope, flip up NcStar red dot underneath? For a minute I thought about adding a WML in some sorta offset mount that attaches under the optic, but there's not a whole lotta clearance there. I was thinking slightly higher tip-off rings with maybe a laced on cheekpiece. You can always mount a light offset on the optic itself. |
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Posted: 3/5/2023 12:23:23 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was thinking slightly higher tip-off rings with maybe a laced on cheekpiece. You can always mount a light offset on the optic itself.  You're right, didn't think about that.For my uses, I like carrying a reload or two on the rifle, and cinching my cheek down. But for alternate scope uses, the leather cheekpieces have a certain old-school charm. Another fun thought would be to get a beat up mixmaster Garand, get a good 'smith to turn it into an M1C or M1D type (complete with leather cheek piece), and then give it the mini-G treatment. |
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Posted: 3/5/2023 1:05:43 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: SWEET!! That turned out really nice. I'm on the fence about the rail. Don't get me wrong, I need help with my eyesight, which is why I went with the Beretta gas system, I can add that rail without having to relieve the op-rod, which would mean a trip back to Tim. I went that way so I CAN add an optic if I just can use the irons anymore. But your rifle turned out so nice! I already have my sling and Olangapo pouch ready to go on too. Man I can't wait...  If I had known the Beretta system wouldn't require op rod mods for a later Ultimak rail, I might have gone that route. As it was, the BM-59 hybrid thing would've only saved me like $100 after it was all said and done, and I figured it was simpler to stick with the Mini-G gas system if problems cropped up. My scope is in some QD LaRue rings that hold zero. I can easily take it off and shoot irons for a few years, but I know that time isn't kind to irons-only, so I figured I'd get the Ultimak on there now so I can keep shooting later. To each their own. But this thread cost me the cumulative couple grand that my Mini-G product cost, and I'm glad it did; I haven't been that excited to receive a firearm in a long time.  |
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Posted: 3/5/2023 3:02:52 PM EDT
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I was about to call it quits with the Beretta system and just go like you did, but then Standard Parts came through for me and found the muzzle break I wanted so I wouldn't have to cut down one of those 7" breaks. Had they not found that break I would have just done what you did. I like those red dots that mount where the rear sight goes, but then you lose the irons all together. At some point I'll probably end up putting a dot on a rail and call it good. The idea of a Mini-G Sniper actually has some appeal to it. Not sure how far you'd have sniper grade accuracy, but I can see where it would make a handy package.
I saw where Tim actually center mounted a scope on a Garand, his personal rifle I believe, and it has me wondering, why couldn't you do that, but use a flip to side mount like they do on those red dot magnifiers? Is there a zero problem with those mounts? Above my paygrade, just wondering out loud. Probably a million dollar idea and will be at SHOT next year with everyone throwing money at it for their M1... |
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Posted: 3/5/2023 4:54:59 PM EDT
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I think Tim likes the Holbrook device that holds your clip, and turns the Garand into basically a giant SKS that you have to single load into the action (but allows a center mount). I specifically instructed that he not install a Holbrook device on mine, because scout scopes exist for top feeding rifles.
And another picture just because:  |
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Posted: 3/5/2023 8:15:44 PM EDT
[#36]
I don't remember telling him not to install a Holbrook, but since I don't have a rail installed I'm thinking it's obvious I don't specifically intend to hunt with this. Isn't it just the perfect, all-around rifle? Is there anything it can't do? Ok reach beyond 500 yds is probably something it can't do but I think it could be called on to do it all.
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Posted: 3/5/2023 8:33:57 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't remember telling him not to install a Holbrook, but since I don't have a rail installed I'm thinking it's obvious I don't specifically intend to hunt with this. Isn't it just the perfect, all-around rifle? Is there anything it can't do? Ok reach beyond 500 yds is probably something it can't do but I think it could be called on to do it all. |
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Posted: 3/6/2023 10:37:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're right, didn't think about that.For my uses, I like carrying a reload or two on the rifle, and cinching my cheek down. But for alternate scope uses, the leather cheekpieces have a certain old-school charm. Another fun thought would be to get a beat up mixmaster Garand, get a good 'smith to turn it into an M1C or M1D type (complete with leather cheek piece), and then give it the mini-G treatment. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I was thinking slightly higher tip-off rings with maybe a laced on cheekpiece. You can always mount a light offset on the optic itself. You're right, didn't think about that.For my uses, I like carrying a reload or two on the rifle, and cinching my cheek down. But for alternate scope uses, the leather cheekpieces have a certain old-school charm. Another fun thought would be to get a beat up mixmaster Garand, get a good 'smith to turn it into an M1C or M1D type (complete with leather cheek piece), and then give it the mini-G treatment. I bet one of Haley's offset mounts might fit under the scope. Nice looking rifle  I've been contemplating an ultimak with a T-1 and wml on my full length rifle |
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Posted: 3/9/2023 10:54:40 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's an M5A1, not a 1942 type. Not with the Smith Enterprises brake. With the normal gas lock, then yes you could mount a typical 1942 type Garand bayonet on it. My M5 might need just a hair bit of relieving on the crossguard to clear the extra girth of the Smith brake, then I'll be able to have a bayonet equipped on my .308-chambered, scout scoped Garand carbine. For a minute I thought about adding a WML in some sorta offset mount that attaches under the optic, but there's not a whole lotta clearance there. An Arisaka offset mount should fit easily. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 11:51:40 PM EDT
[#40]
Just curious, did you ship via an FFL? UPS? USPS?
I've been meaning to send him one but the new Fedex and UPS bans on shipping firearms by individuals has been annoying. |
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Posted: 3/11/2023 12:09:39 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just curious, did you ship via an FFL? UPS? USPS? I've been meaning to send him one but the new Fedex and UPS bans on shipping firearms by individuals has been annoying. "Unlicensed individuals" can still ship Title 1 rifles & shotguns via USPS. It's not very expensive. |
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Posted: 3/11/2023 8:40:06 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Unlicensed individuals" can still ship Title 1 rifles & shotguns via USPS. It's not very expensive. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just curious, did you ship via an FFL? UPS? USPS? I've been meaning to send him one but the new Fedex and UPS bans on shipping firearms by individuals has been annoying. "Unlicensed individuals" can still ship Title 1 rifles & shotguns via USPS. It's not very expensive. As a warning, it was a PITA. They wanted me to sign a form that I was an FFL. I told them I was not an FFL, they said they couldn't do it. So I showed them on the USPS website that they could, in fact, mail a firearm from a non-FFL to an FFL. I had Shuff's FFL printed out (also a copy in the box), the work order printed out (also in the box), and was very calm and polite; it still took a level 3 manager to tell the desk peon they could ship it, but only if I didn't include any ammo. YMMV, and if you don't go in prepared to the hilt, be prepared to be denied your rights because they're too stupid to know their own rules. This isn't my first rodeo shipping firearms, so I went in "over prepared" so that the bureaucracy didn't have a leg to stand on. |
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Posted: 3/12/2023 7:18:22 PM EDT
[#43]
I’ve got a C&R so that shouldn’t be an issue. But I think I can also set up a pickup with UPS now that I looked at their policy closer.
Been meaning to send one in for a while. One of the Hackberry Rack grades. Didn’t have these issues when I had him do a BM59 years ago. Does Shuff post his FFL somewhere? |
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Posted: 3/12/2023 7:27:22 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Does Shuff post his FFL somewhere? Ye be warned, making sure I had the order documents correct/accounted for was a PITA, as relevant details for what I was trying to accomplish were scattered over three separate pages on his website. Even so, I apparently missed details regarding a $35 "degreasing fee" (which was buried somewhere that seemed irrelevant to what I wanted him to do), which he waived due to the delay in returning my rifle. I'm still glad I sent it to Jeremy2171 before Shuff, to rechamber it and check it out to replace some out of spec parts. Jeremy2171 works some beautiful magic, but also manages to communicate with clients. |
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Posted: 3/13/2023 6:37:15 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, I had to email him. I would forward you a copy, but doing so seems uncouth, and I'm not sure Shuff is someone you want irritates with you if you want him to work on your stuff. Ye be warned, making sure I had the order documents correct/accounted for was a PITA, as relevant details for what I was trying to accomplish were scattered over three separate pages on his website. Even so, I apparently missed details regarding a $35 "degreasing fee" (which was buried somewhere that seemed irrelevant to what I wanted him to do), which he waived due to the delay in returning my rifle. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Does Shuff post his FFL somewhere? No, I had to email him. I would forward you a copy, but doing so seems uncouth, and I'm not sure Shuff is someone you want irritates with you if you want him to work on your stuff. Ye be warned, making sure I had the order documents correct/accounted for was a PITA, as relevant details for what I was trying to accomplish were scattered over three separate pages on his website. Even so, I apparently missed details regarding a $35 "degreasing fee" (which was buried somewhere that seemed irrelevant to what I wanted him to do), which he waived due to the delay in returning my rifle. Yeah, the Timbo can get frosty. It just depends on the issue that’s irritating him at the moment. DO NOT ask him what he thinks about the CMP Forums site or certain posters there, the ones who trash his M1 “conversions.” I'm still glad I sent it to Jeremy2171 before Shuff, to rechamber it and check it out to replace some out of spec parts. Jeremy2171 works some beautiful magic, but also manages to communicate with clients. Tim communicates too, but only after 90-days+ from when he received your M1 for whatever work you wanted done. |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 9:25:24 PM EDT
[#46]
Was able to get out and shoot the Mini-G earlier. I mounted a scout scope to it, but that didn't magically turn it into a DMR. Still a 3 MOA rifle with mil spec .308. I didn't have time enough to dial it in 100% given some of the spread.
Even so, it was a hoot with just irons. Absolutely a blast to shoot, and considerably more handy than a full-size Garand. I'm toying with putting some form of RDS on it, because whenever I put a magnified optic on something I somehow expect more out of it, or expect better accuracy. But by the same token, it's accuracy I would gladly accept if just shooting irons or something without magnification, so .yeah. Great fun, and reminds me I need to get better clips. |
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