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5/30/2011 11:09:35 AM EDT
I'm a new M1 owner and have successfully been shooting the Greek surplus from the CMP. The only issue I have is the bolt doesn't slam forward once the clip is inserted. I'm sure this could be operator error, but just wanted to see if there might be other issues.

My technique to load it is to push the clip down with my thumb until I hear a click. I then quickly remove my thumb up and out of the way. The bolt then moves forward a little bit, and I end up having to lightly nudge the operating rod forward- and the bolt closes.

Also, the spent cases are ejecting towards the 1 o'clock position, clip comes out at 3 o'clock. Don't know if this matters at all.

Thanks for any constructive input.
5/30/2011 11:13:32 AM EDT
[#1]
Some rifles close the action quickly and some need a nudge to start the op-rod forward. Kinda normal.

Check this link for a trouble shooting chart that helps a bunch:
http://www.nicolausassociates.com/PDF/TroubleshootingGuide.pdf

edit to add:
Bolt does not release when clip is latched.

a) Insufficient radii or burs on op rod catch or op rod hooks.
b) Bullet guide low at accelerator bearing point.

Repair:

a) Repair or replace op rod catch or op rod assembly.
b) Replace bullet guide.
5/30/2011 12:40:25 PM EDT
[#2]
Not fully closing after insert of full clip pretty normal you just push forward on bolt handle to close. Never saw an m1 that did not need an extra push
5/30/2011 2:14:17 PM EDT
[#3]
This may sound strange:  Mine closes when I insert a clip of dummy rounds (the orange plastic kind), but not when I insert live rounds.  Could be me doing something different though.
5/30/2011 3:03:24 PM EDT
[#4]
Thanks guys. These comments make me fell much better.
5/30/2011 3:47:14 PM EDT
[#5]
I've shot some that slammed home as soon as the clip clicked in place. Mine requires a little bump. I like mine better, because I feel like I'm less likely to get the dreaded "M1 Thumb".
5/30/2011 4:23:28 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
I've shot some that slammed home as soon as the clip clicked in place. Mine requires a little bump. I like mine better, because I feel like I'm less likely to get the dreaded "M1 Thumb".


Ha ha, the M1 Thumb

The round of ammunition pushes your thumb out of the way as it is being pushed into the chamber..............However, when you are dry firing or practicing loading with an empty clip, M1 Thumb is gonna happen.  Well, most of the time.
5/30/2011 7:07:44 PM EDT
[#7]
I've had a lot of M1's.  Only one would reliably close after inserting a clip.
5/30/2011 7:08:30 PM EDT
[#8]
The bolt only closes by itself when your thumb is in the way. DUH.  Just kidding.  Both mine need a bump most of the time.
5/31/2011 6:12:44 AM EDT
[#9]
What you ask about is very common to the point of being normal.  Watch some WW2 footage and movies and you willl see shooters inserting a clip then bumping the bolt forward before firing.  It gets to be a habit after a while.

MLG
5/31/2011 12:07:38 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
This may sound strange:  Mine closes when I insert a clip of dummy rounds (the orange plastic kind), but not when I insert live rounds.  Could be me doing something different though.


It's probably because the plastic is slicker and softer than brass, which caused the dummy rounds to slide out of the clip easier.

Tour a firing line in which the M1 rifle is being used and you'll see that virtually all of them require the "M1 bump" on the handle to fully close the action.

5/31/2011 10:33:50 PM EDT
[#11]
Thanks again everyone, guess I didn't get a 'lemon'.
6/1/2011 9:36:48 PM EDT
[#12]
dependent on how tight the full clip is holding onto the rounds.  Mine always needs a nudge.  That is normal...
6/2/2011 7:08:42 AM EDT
[#13]
A lot of this depends on how the follower is worn and how it sits in the receiver. A worn follower that tilts so that the front is much higher than the rear will always require a good hard smack to move the bolt.

A follower that sits in the receiver with the rear higher than most will almost always allow the bolt to move on it's own when you seat the clip.

If one perfers to load a clip and never have to smack the bolt you can modify the follower to allow this.
6/2/2011 7:11:18 AM EDT
[#14]
yep, in the 10 or so I've had only one or 2 would close automatically upon the click of the clip and release of thumb pressure.  All the others go a short distance  and need a nudge.  Particularly with the post war rifles.  They changed the design of the bullet guide.
6/3/2011 5:58:06 AM EDT
[#15]
I am thankful mine does not slam home "I like my thumb" actually I thought mine should have closed as well but more seasoned M1 Guys said it's normal
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