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1/19/2009 5:34:40 AM EDT
I cannot get the oprod to lift up and out.  I slide it back to the notch but it will not lift out.  I have wiggled it a little but no luck.. Any help is appreciated.
1/19/2009 6:15:31 AM EDT
[#1]
Email sent w/ a few suggestions and trying to locate some links for you.

Link:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=6&t=265062
1/19/2009 8:05:43 AM EDT
[#2]
If the rifle is newer it can be tough, My brother's SOCOM's oprod fights you every step of the way. It has maybe 100 rds through it.

My NM used to have that problem. It disappeared in no time.
1/19/2009 4:33:20 PM EDT
[#3]
Just keep shooting.

I'd highly advise you to ignore any advice that involves a flathead screw driver.
1/19/2009 6:38:43 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Just keep shooting.

I'd highly advise you to ignore any advice that involves a flathead screw driver.


please do not use a screwdriver to remove the op rod,



1/19/2009 8:18:00 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Just keep shooting.

I'd highly advise you to ignore any advice that involves a flathead screw driver.


please do not use a screwdriver to remove the op rod,





Why?
1/20/2009 10:55:28 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Just keep shooting.

I'd highly advise you to ignore any advice that involves a flathead screw driver.


please do not use a screwdriver to remove the op rod,





Why?


This is a matter of technique, not increased leverage or brute force.  Use your fingers to push from the inside of the receiver while pulling up and out as mentioned in the link.  Once you figure out the technique you will see how easy it actually is.

1/20/2009 11:01:55 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Just keep shooting.

I'd highly advise you to ignore any advice that involves a flathead screw driver.


please do not use a screwdriver to remove the op rod,





Why?


This is a matter of technique, not increased leverage or brute force.  Use your fingers to push from the inside of the receiver while pulling up and out as mentioned in the link.  Once you figure out the technique you will see how easy it actually is.




what he said,

the gun was designed to be taken down by hand, a screwdriver was only used to work on the sights, and remove the butt plate

learn the right way, and once you get the hang of it, it's really easy

1/20/2009 1:07:29 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Just keep shooting.

I'd highly advise you to ignore any advice that involves a flathead screw driver.


please do not use a screwdriver to remove the op rod,





Why?


This is a matter of technique, not increased leverage or brute force.  Use your fingers to push from the inside of the receiver while pulling up and out as mentioned in the link.  Once you figure out the technique you will see how easy it actually is.




what he said,

the gun was designed to be taken down by hand, a screwdriver was only used to work on the sights, and remove the butt plate

learn the right way, and once you get the hang of it, it's really easy




True.... but the initial design never included a step at the dismount notch which these SAInc M1As have by their own design. A screwdriver that has the tip covered w/ tape and used only with slight pressure will neither bend the oprod or harm the reciever in any way.

I also suggested a few more rounds thru the rifle which is what the OP has decided to do, hopefully this will help with the disassembly in the future...
1/20/2009 1:17:59 PM EDT
[#9]
After I got about 2k rounds through my m1a this problem went away for the most part. Up until that point I found it was easiest to get the tab in the dismount notch, then use my strong hand to pull straight up on the rod while slightly twisting outward also. You may have to pull pretty hard as getting the op-rod out is very hard the first couple of times. It was such a hassle for me that I didn't even take it out for about the first 1k rounds.
1/21/2009 9:44:48 AM EDT
[#10]
Boy, am I glad you started this thread!  I just acquired a fairly fresh SOCOM-16, and I thought there was something wrong with my op-rod.  I broke down M-14s a zillion times when I was with Uncle, and never had a problem, but the SOCOM rod needed extra effort - in and out.  I considered using a screwdriver, but that's an urge I've learned to suppress (except around AKs)

 The rest of the rifle was like old home week -  like riding a bicycle, you never really forget how to take 'em apart...even the gas system (which was a little different from the M-14) felt familiar.
1/21/2009 10:08:25 AM EDT
[#11]
M14s are the classic example of the "bigger hammer/more force" theory NOT being applicable. Patience is a virtue. Don't take the bolt apart until you have acquired the patience of Methusula. Its easy to get apart. I had to build a jig to get it back together. Bring the oprod to the notch, bring up, then work side to side with upward pressure on both ends. This tends to work for me.
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