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Posted: 1/27/2007 7:19:42 PM EDT
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Will Carbines be available through the CMP? Yes, March 1, 2007 Pasted from the FAQs. 01/27/07 |
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This has been all over the Internet since the original press release on 12/29/2006. If you haven't bought your USGI magazines yet, be prepared to bend over.  ETA: And for God's sake DON'T call or email the CMP asking questions that they have been answering over and over again for the past month! Search the forums instead. |
| Once they go up for sale I predict the CMP website crashing, followed by at least a two month wait between mailing the order and FEDEX ringing the doorbell. I also predict that so many people will send in their orders priority mail that the system will be clogged and 1st class mail will get there first. In the end it won't matter anyway since Orest has said they have over a one year supply. |
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reference my thread for everything that has been CONFIRMED about the carbines. no rumor or speculation www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=6&t=212682 |
I don't know of any other weapon that's chambered in .30 carbine so I guess all current manufacture would be to M1 Carbine specs. If I am mistaken someone please correct me. Mike |
I'd say it has SOME basis in fact. I think its safe to say CMP is going to look at the going rate of a Carbine in like condition, and then price the Carbines based on some supply/demand formula. |
AMT made a handgun in .30 carbine. I believe it was / is called the Automag III |
do you have ANYTHING to back that up beyond your opinion of what you THINK they will do? |
I thought that was illegal! Had to keep a min of 1 year! |
Still no basis in fact. "safe to say" is not any basis of a fact. |
You're right. No business ever takes things like supply, demand, or cost into their pricing. The basis of fact is taking a look at how CMP prices their Garands and other products. |
Oh, they figure supply, demand, and cost into pricing, but there is still no basis in fact to any guess as to what the price might be. As for the pricing on the Garands, that is a different product, different matter so, once again, still no basis in fact. Any guess as to what the price might be is still pure speculation based on nothing. If someone just happens to guess correctly, it is still just that, a guess. It doesn't mean they really knew anything unless they can cite a specific OFFICIAL source. What is this, everyone wants to be the first to quote a price with no basis for it, just like the media likes to have headlines before everyone else does whether they really have any facts at all. |
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Well said larry. I don't mean to toot my own horn (well, i do, but only a little), but I think my thread that I linked to on page 1 is the exclusive collection of what is OFFICIALLY known about the carbines at this point. Unless someone can point to an official, DOCUMENTED source, all statements about the carbines are to be considered to be PURE SPECULATION. Saying that CMP is going to look at going market price for carbines and charge accordingly is pure crap. They're not in business to squeeze every penny out of buyers (though they have squeezed a LOT of pennies out of me). If they wanted to charge "market price" for garands, rack grades would run $700 and up from there, and people would still buy. |
You really have a habit of uttering nonsense. Of course CMP is going to look at market value. Their primary purpose for selling guns is to make money for their shooting events. They are going to decide where they can maximize profit. Period. I think the proof here is the sales of the 1903's. Most of what they've sold in the past 2 or 3 months isn't worth what they're charging. But, because of supply and demand, they set a price, and they are getting the price, because they were at market value. No one would pay 700 dollars for a rack grade Garand. |
Ugh. Yes. I've been to too many gun shows where these assclowns have Garands for sale for 200-300% of what they paid the CMP for them. Idiots all. I just want one, yes, one, carbine. I kind of hope the CMP has the foresight to set purchase limits, otherwise, there is no such thing as a 2 year supply, not with the number of morons out there who buy these rifles just to flip them. That was never the purpose of the DCM or the CMP program. The program doesn't exist so that a handful of assclown "businessmen" can pad their bottom line at gun shows around the country. It is supposed to promote marksmanship, period. I don't admonish the collectors for wanting more than one, just the gun show "dealers", although collecting is not necessarily "shooting" but at least it is "enjoying." Otherwise, there should be no CMP, and they should just release all the guns to the marketplace, price them at whatever the market will bear, and be done with it. And they should do it with all the surplus M-16s as well (now I'm really dreaming). |
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