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Posted: 12/5/2006 2:50:50 PM EDT
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I thought this was the best place to ask this question. I was talking with a friend at a gun show who showed me a Springfield 1903 with a cutout he said for a Pederson device. He said this allows pistol bullets to be shot in a rifle. Some guy over hearing us said they are very rare and he had never seen one. He said if you had one they would be worth $40,000. He says theres only a couple known to exist. Is that right? If they are so rare, why would the rifle modified to fit one not be collectable as well? The rifle was in fair to poor shape I think he wanted $350 for it. What caliber were they for that chambered 30-06? Chinook3 |
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Great article from the CMP about the Pedersen device: www.odcmp.com/Services/Rifles/pipsqueak_pistol.htm |
| Story is that years ago there were some fake Pederson devices floating around. Only a small number actually survived the scrap pile. The .30 Pederson round is almost equally s rare as the device. While thought underpowered it's purpose was to lay down alot of rounds while trying to overrun trenches. |
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Major Richard Culver from Culver's Shooting Page used to send his wife out to gunshows with an M1903 with attached Pederson device slung over her shoulder to bait unscrupulous dealers. She'd get offers up to a couple of hundred bucks for the thing from some dealers. They'd be foaming at the mouth and trampling each other trying to get it from Mrs. Culver. There's an M1903 with Pederson device on Juliaauctions.com right now- current bid is $51,750. |
i wish someone would make something like this.... it seems like it is a primitive version of the Ceiner .22 kit for AR15's. Maybe something that fires .32ACP, then you wouldnt need a new bbl, and it would be a shitload of fun. Sadly, I doubt there are enough 1903 guys out there who would be interested. |
I'm not so sure about that, there is a lot of guys looking to get the correct parts, and if it could be done for a few hundred $$, why not, |
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Finding an original Pederson device would be my holy grail. I have had several chances in the past to buy the Mark I specific cutoff and sear for my rifle but prices are getting crazy for these parts that no one can use. I would be open to dropping some coin on a repro unit if someone decided to produce it. Mark |
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One of the guys on "American Rifleman" showed one about a week ago. They tried to use it. If fired the first shot and would not eject/feed. I forget exactly what the malfunction was. They tried again, same story. He did say it was old and all that, but I wonder how the reliability was when they were new. |
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Now that right there is funny! Nice job Mr. and Mrs. Culver. If only they had video tape to play! I used to work for a dealer like that. Little old ladies coming in with 12 hunting guns from dear ole pa who passed this winter. They'd get the "best I can do for you ma'am for the lot is $950", meanwhile there were two over and under brownings, a weatherby rifle, a sako rifle in the lot, plus other generics that would be worth 250-450 each at the time. |
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