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Posted: 3/24/2005 10:43:57 AM EDT
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Anyone have pics of an M1A with the A.R.M.S.® #18 M21/14 Scope Mount with an EoTech? How about with the Smith Enterprises M14 / M1A See-Thru M-1913 Picatinny Mount and an EoTech? As I see it, the Pros and Cons of each are: A.R.M.S.® #18: PRO: Lower mount, $175 CON: Requires optics be taken off for irons. Smith Enterprises Picatinny Mount: PRO: "See-thru" channel, so irons always an option. CON: Sits higher than Arms, $225.00. The ARMs I believe will co-witness an Aimpoint...but not an EoTech (Anyone?) Thanks inadvance! 
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From the Photo Gallery at www.imageseek.com/m1a Here's an EOTech mounted on a Smith Enterprise scope mount: 
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If I knew how to post pics on here, I'd put one up of my Scout with an ARMS 18 and my new Trijicon TA01B .308 - sweet set up that I use at work. And funny thing - with my rear sight almost lowered all the way, which is where my 100 yd zero is anyway, I can see it through the ARMS mount and get good center mass hits all day long, but I can't elevate it because the mount obscures it. My thought is, it gives me back up irons at 100 yds, and my primary optic is my Trijicon with calibrate reticles out to 800 yds anyway, and on the really really really off chance my scope fails, my target isn't around 100 yds or so, I can just pop it off with the ARMS quick disconnect mount anyway and there are the sights. If someone wants to send me their email address, I'll send them a pic of this setup and they can post it if they know how...it's also got the new McMillan SpecWar folder with rail stock on it as well. [email protected] |
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Fantastic photo! Much obliged to you sir. For the pic and your truly detailed M14/M1A page. Looking forward to the book!
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Thanks Mark. I had heard that the ARMs rested pretty low. Does it have the channel running through it lengthwise for irons? I know the Smith does...not sure about the ARMs. |
| Troy Industries has a Modular Stock System for the M14 and rail fore ends for the AR15 variants. www.troyind.com |
I did a looksee and found some info. The only price I've seen recorded is $650.  pic hosted by TinyPic This is from IMPACTGUNS. The Troy Modular stock system incorporates a true drop in system. Fits USGI M14s and M1As including the SOCOM model. 1913 rails included at 3, 6, 9, and 12 o'clock positions. Accepts all SOPMOD accessories including M203 grenade launchers. Machined from aircraft grade aluminum and weighing less than 3.5 lbs. the modular stock system boasts lightweight and rugged performance. A six position folding collapsible stock is standard on the system. Shown in desert tan, the stock system is also available in green and black. Black will be sent if no color is specified. Specs from Troy Ind: 1) MAIN BODY MACHINED FROM BAR STOCK T6 ALUMINUM – MIL SPEC HARD COAT ANODIZED2) FIVE POSITION COLLAPSABLE & FOLDING VLTOR MODULAR COMPARTMENTED STOCK ASSEMBLY WITH OFF HAND SUPPORT NOTCH.3) PROPIERTARY ACCURACY ENHANCING TENSION SYSTEM.4) MIL-STD M1913 PICATINY RAIL SYSTEMA) FULL LENGTH BOTTOM RAILB) SIX INCH SIDE RAILSC) FULL LENGTH TOP RAIL WHICH EXTENDS OVER THE RECEIVER.D) ALL RAILS FEATURE NUMBERED CROSS SLOTS AND ¼ X 20 TAPPED HOLES PER MIL. REQ.E) INCLUDES 4 TANGO DOWN RAIL COVERS, TANGO DOWN BATTLE GRIP AND ABOVE MENTIONED VLTOR STOCK IN MATCHING COLOR TO THE STOCK.5) STOCKS ARE AVAILABLE IN DESERT TAN, OD GREEN, AND BLACK AND COME COMPLETE WITH TROY ONE POINT SLING.6) A TRUE DROP IN STOCK WITH NO NEED TO REPLACE ANY PARTS OTHER THAN THE FACTORY WOOD STOCK AND FIBERGLASS HAND GUARD.7) THE M14 M.S.S. WILL FIT ALL STANDARD USGI M14’S AS WELL AS STANDARD SPRINGFIELD ARMORY M1A’S, INCLUDING SOCOM. STOCK CAN BE MODIFIED TO ACCEPT OTHER NON MIL-SPEC M14 MODELS AND VARIANTS. I think for the money and weight I'll go for a Law Stock w/ an ARMS or a SMITH platform. |
Sounds promising....Maybe an ARMS18 with the GG&G EoTech QD mount to get to the irons fast. However......I'm drifting to the Smith mount. The "see through" channel running lengthwise allows irons use whether an optic is mounted or not. The TROY MSS gives alot of rail real estate, but how much do you need? I have the CJ Accessories STRIKER-14 which allows me to drop on my NF 2.5-10 or an EoTech on any position. But it adds weight. I use the Specter 1.5 inch webbing sling. |
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Thanks - I'm not a fan of folders much either, but I fell in love with this stock when I first handled one - so I had to get it. It's a trade off for convenience - too much junk in the trunk and deploying out, so small is good. It also has three rails ( one 9" on the bottom and two 4" on each side) that I use for the bipod, light and sling mount. As for the cheek weld, it's a little off, but works fine mainly because the ACOG is such a user friendly scope. It's plenty accurate for what it's designed for - and once I'm settled in, I switch to the bolt gun anyway.... I've been thinking of getting one of those Colt type attachments that go on top of the moving part of the stock that raise the cheek weld spot - anyone have experience good/bad with them??? |
Special request: Could you put that bad boy on a scale and tell us what it weighs with and without the Surefire M962, ARMS #18 and ACOG TA01B. Please keep a loaded 20 roung magazine in it for all weigh-ins. Thank you sir. |
Mmmmmmmm......LRB reciever............. |
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