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12/16/2004 9:07:52 AM EDT
While cleaning out my safe I found what appears to be a new complete bolt for m1a type weapon it is marked as follows 7790186 and under that TRW ZJ any ideas? Whats it worth? Thanks
12/16/2004 9:16:32 AM EDT
[#1]
TRW M14 bolt. New? It's worth what ever you can get for it. I'm seeing people gladly paying $150.00+.
12/16/2004 9:20:32 AM EDT
[#2]
What should I ask It, I own a Polytec M14/s and I cant see putting it in there. Is this top of the line or something? I honestly can't remember where or why I picked it up.
12/16/2004 9:46:25 AM EDT
[#3]



It sounds like it may be an Israeli import.  It may fetch a bit lower than a USGI TRW.  
I had a few Israeli parts and for some reason, people just didn;t want those as much as a USGI part.

12/16/2004 9:46:52 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
What should I ask It, I own a Polytec M14/s and I cant see putting it in there. Is this top of the line or something? I honestly cant remember where or why I picked it up.



TRW parts are genrally regarded as top quality. though the fact is all USGI parts were held to the same standard. If you can honestly say that the bolt is new and unused and visual inspection would verify your belief, ask $150.00 for it. Be prepared to provide photos. Put it on the EE here, at the firing line.com and in the weapons forums on your american back yard.com
12/16/2004 9:57:32 AM EDT
[#5]
There are no visible war marks on this bolt there is white grease showing from behind the "roller". AKIRA the bolt is stamped with TRW on it, not being a smart a## but does that not mean its a TRW bolt?
12/16/2004 11:13:22 AM EDT
[#6]
Look, I'm just trying to help you out.
If what I said was taken the wrong way, I aplogize.


All the manufactures (TRW, H&R, Winchester, Springfield)  made parts that WERE shipped to Israeli.
These parts were marked with certain letters IE: "ZJ".
What you have IS a TRW bolt.  

In my experiences I have sold 100's of M14 parts.
What I noticed is that the israeli imports sold for a bit less, not much but less.
There are some gun fanatics (imagine that) who want USGI m14 parts only.


You got your self a great find.  Its a little gold nugget.
Good luck on the sale
I'm sure anyone would love to have a new TRW bolt.

12/16/2004 11:20:17 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Look, I'm just trying to help you out.
If what I said was taken the wrong way, I aplogize.  No need, thanks. It is people like you who make this site such a great resorce. It was I who did not understand your explination. Again Thanks


All the manufactures (TRW, H&R, Winchester, Springfield)  made parts that WERE shipped to Israeli.
These parts were marked with certain letters IE: "ZJ".
What you have IS a TRW bolt.  

In my experiences I have sold 100's of M14 parts.
What I noticed is that the israeli imports sold for a bit less, not much but less.
There are some gun fanatics (imagine that) who want USGI m14 parts only.


You got your self a great find.  Its a little gold nugget.
Good luck on the sale
I'm sure anyone would love to have a new TRW bolt.


12/16/2004 11:22:08 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Look, I'm just trying to help you out.
If what I said was taken the wrong way, I aplogize.  No need, thanks. It is people like you who make this site such a great resorce. It was I who did not understand your explination. Again Thanks


All the manufactures (TRW, H&R, Winchester, Springfield)  made parts that WERE shipped to Israeli.
These parts were marked with certain letters IE: "ZJ".
What you have IS a TRW bolt.  

In my experiences I have sold 100's of M14 parts.
What I noticed is that the israeli imports sold for a bit less, not much but less.
There are some gun fanatics (imagine that) who want USGI m14 parts only.


You got your self a great find.  Its a little gold nugget.
Good luck on the sale
I'm sure anyone would love to have a new TRW bolt.



Check 1st paragraph of above, posted in wrong place
12/16/2004 4:43:51 PM EDT
[#9]
"ZJ" is not a Israeli marking.  It is the heat treatment lot code.  ALL USGI manufacturers put a heat treatment lot code on their bolts.  Winchester used double letter identifiers like "EE", "GG" and "HH" for heat treatment lot codes.  TRW bolts are the most desireable of all USGI M14 bolts.  No joke.  Are they BETTER than other USGI bolts?  No, but they have high collector value.  Why?  Because TRW M14 parts have higher desireability due to the TRW Mystique.  What is the TRW Mystique?  The answer can be found in the FREE online book M14 Rifle History and Development at www.imageseek.com/m1a

akira is correct that the Israelis did mark the M14 bolts in their possession and USGI M14 parts exported to Israel were imported into the USA in the 1980s and 1990s.  HOWEVER, an Israeli marked USGI M14 bolt will have a Hebrew alphabet letter stamped directly under the USGI manufacturer ID and USGI heat treatment lot code.  You'll see these on the 200 Springfield Armory, Inc. IDF M1A rifles.  

HTH,

Different
12/16/2004 4:49:22 PM EDT
[#10]
thanks guys
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