Originally Posted By Sixtysixdeuce:


August was a total loss with moving the shop and setting up.

As far as the queue having been stagnant for some time, we had over 80 cans here for recores when we decided to initiate that system to reduce the number that we had physically in the shop at any given time.  We did not start calling people to bring in more until we got under 20 on the shelf, which took about 3 months.  It is moving now, but in the immediate future, holidays do make a mess of things, and we're also in the midst of a personal matter concerning one of my children that has commanded a great deal of our time the last couple weeks.  For most people working normal 35-50 hour weeks, personal matters & work can be balanced better.  I work an average of 68 hours per week, and that does not include responding to emails and messages on Facebook & bulletin boards, so when demanding personal matters come up, it does sometimes detract from the number of hours I'm able to put in making parts.  Regrettably, I have not figured out how to add any hours to the day or days to the week.

I do apologize to everyone who has been waiting.  I always try to accurately estimate timeframes, but the dynamic of the business has been in a constant state of flux, so it has not been easy to nail down exactly how much of each category of service I'll be able to get done in a given period.  A year ago, we were taking in 6 or 8 mount conversions per month with no backlog.  I'm presently doing 20-25 monthly with more than 200 waiting.  We did buy a CNC lathe this year to increase productivity, but there have been many issues getting that going, from not knowing how to program it to needing parts to needing a registration with Mazak to even obtain parts & service.

Originally Posted By Blackwind:
Shipped one of my 762-SDN-6 for an Omega adapter for a Cherry Bomb today.

Originally Posted By Dominion21:



I am considering the same thing (mine is an earlier 762-SD).  

Mind sharing the total cost for that service?  Also - will that mount fit other brakes besides the cherrybomb?

Originally Posted By Localizer:
How much to thread the barrel and add the extension?

Originally Posted By tmsteinhardt:

$100-$150 depending on the barrel and thread.

Originally Posted By Localizer:
Thanks much.

Can you give me an idea about these barrels from these photos?

Yeah, nay, more work required? Cost?

Want them threaded 9/16x24 to run a can on them.


I don’t know how to post photos...i hope link below works.

https://imgur.com/user/TxFlyboy

Barrel dimensions

Originally Posted By Blackwind:
Somewhere around 175 plus shipping. The Omega threading (1.375x24 threaded)  is about universal with a plethora of mounts and accessories to fit. From Dead Air's Key-Mo to offerings from Griffin, YHM, SilencerCo etc. Q released a SilencerCo Omega adapter for use with their Cherry Bomb muzzle devices called the Plan-B, which is what I use on almost everything. I have only 2 pinned barrels on host with 51T.

Originally Posted By Dominion21:



@Blackwind thanks! .

I appreciate it.  Next question (if anyone knows):  could Ecco clip the cones in a 762SD when it’s apart for re threading, or would that be cost-prohibitive?

Originally Posted By socommatthews:
How long were you guys on the waitlist before they contacted you to send your suppressor in? I’m at 2 months now

Originally Posted By Sixtysixdeuce:
We're getting there with catching up.  I lost a little bit of time getting trained on my CNC, then my phase converter was down for a few days, and I'm not getting a ton out right this minute, as I'm trying to get all the programs written and fine tuned for the more common parts.  I'm getting faster with programming, though, and before long I'll have most of those ironed out to where it's just loading the program and tools with minor tweaking for each job.  Then the efficiency will get where it needs to be.

For example, it took the better part of 2.5 hours for me to get a program together and work our the kinks for Beretta 81 internal thread adapters.  And I had a few bad parts in the process.  But now that it's done, the machine's cycle time on those is just under 6 minutes, where it took me about 12 minutes pee on the manual.  So the CNC isn't light years faster than I am on the manual lathes, but anywhere from about 50-150% on a given part.  More importantly,  though,  the machine is tireless, and I can get some other things done while it's running a cycle, even though I still have to manually reset the bar for each part.

Eventually Jerrica will be able to run the programs a decent amount of the time, too, freeing me up to do the manual operations that are still required on pretty much everything.

Originally Posted By Sixtysixdeuce:
We're getting there with catching up.  I lost a little bit of time getting trained on my CNC, then my phase converter was down for a few days, and I'm not getting a ton out right this minute, as I'm trying to get all the programs written and fine tuned for the more common parts.  I'm getting faster with programming, though, and before long I'll have most of those ironed out to where it's just loading the program and tools with minor tweaking for each job.  Then the efficiency will get where it needs to be.

For example, it took the better part of 2.5 hours for me to get a program together and work our the kinks for Beretta 81 internal thread adapters.  And I had a few bad parts in the process.  But now that it's done, the machine's cycle time on those is just under 6 minutes, where it took me about 12 minutes pee on the manual.  So the CNC isn't light years faster than I am on the manual lathes, but anywhere from about 50-150% on a given part.  More importantly,  though,  the machine is tireless, and I can get some other things done while it's running a cycle, even though I still have to manually reset the bar for each part.

Eventually Jerrica will be able to run the programs a decent amount of the time, too, freeing me up to do the manual operations that are still required on pretty much everything.

Been a minute since I've done a general update, so probably time!
I apologize to all for still being a little behind the schedule we planned to keep.  Seems like every time we're just about caught up, something else bogs us down.  Right now it's still a battle with getting materials and, to a lesser degree, tooling.  What this means is that even though I have the CNC going and have been hammering out new programs like crazy, I can't make a huge stock of parts to keep on hand as I had planned to because we might hose ourselves on materials.  So I have to run smaller batches on a more as-needed basis, which is definitely slower with tooling changes and program adjustments.  But until things normalize and I can order as much of what I need when I need it, we're gonna have to operate this way.

On that note, as more and more folks become aware of us, there seems to be quite a few who have the impression we're much larger than we are.  It's still just the two of us, me doing all the physical work with cans & guns and answering the highly technical inquiries, Jerrica doing basically everything else.  Our output is considerable for just two people, the result of her putting in around 50 hour weeks (while also earning her associates degree) and me still closer to 80.  But there are still only so many hours in the day, and we still can't bring anyone else on for a variety of reasons.  And unless we start charging a whole lot more for our products and services, it's just gonna take time to bring in more machines to increase production.  We are working as hard and fast as we can, and we really don't take any time off, just one day per week on average.  No vacations, no random leisure days.  And that's OK, we enjoy what we do and are not seeking any sympathy, just want to make sure everyone knows that long lead times and delays are not due to a lack of ethic or effort.  

Now a statement with a bit more sour tone, but that needs to be heard by a select few.  We don't care who you are, who you know, how much money you have or how influential you think you are.  The broke 22 year old nobody knows who just managed to scrape together enough money to buy one or two cans gets the same quality of service and level of priority as the "connected" millionaire with hundreds of them.  But that can change if you try to use the power you believe you have to force us to bend to your will, because if I'm pushed to choose between using my finite resources to help one guy with 50 cans or 50 people with one can each, it will be the latter.  Our customers make us who we are.  *ALL* of our customers, not just the wealthy or well-connected folks. - ECCO Machine

Originally Posted By USAFtacFANAC:
ETA: Maybe if I was wealthy or well-connected I could have used my positional power to cut in line LOL.

Originally Posted By Blackwind:
I suspect ..neither of these have weight with ECCO, just sayin. He does masterful work and its worth the wait.

Originally Posted By Removed_californian:
https://i.imgur.com/T3LE9Df.jpg

Nick’s handiwork shown in a Trainer conversion.  

Super fast, high quality, low price.  Highly recommend ECCO for this conversion.

Originally Posted By Removed_californian:
https://i.imgur.com/T3LE9Df.jpg

Nick’s handiwork shown in a Trainer conversion.  

Super fast, high quality, low price.  Highly recommend ECCO for this conversion.

Originally Posted By Blackwind:
I suspect ..neither of these have weight with ECCO, just sayin. He does masterful work and its worth the wait.

Originally Posted By Sixtysixdeuce:
One guy tried to show how important he was by claiming to know Kevin Brittingham.  That certainly won't get you anywhere with us.  Lol.

Originally Posted By Sixtysixdeuce:


It was tongue in cheek.  I had made it abundantly clear on our page that someone attempting to push ahead of everyone else by throwing around "weight", name dropping or otherwise trying to convince us that they should have priority would be unsuccessful, and it could have the opposite effect.  

We've had a few try, some of them very condescending and even flat out insulting.  Those ones are on a list that we never remove names from.

One guy tried to show how important he was by claiming to know Kevin Brittingham.  That certainly won't get you anywhere with us.  Lol.

Originally Posted By ghostgunnerX:

Where do I sign up!!

Originally Posted By USAFtacFANAC:


Man that is sharp. A shame the trainer can cost so much. That would sell like hot cakes if it was more budget friendly.

Originally Posted By USAFtacFANAC:
On a different note. On the surefire mount, what is the extra metal in front of the tube threads left on for? It that a structural support section? How much internal volume would that take up in a blast chamber? I will continue to use rearden, but I am nosey and would like to know.

Originally Posted By Removed_californian:
https://i.imgur.com/T3LE9Df.jpg

Nick’s handiwork shown in a Trainer conversion.  

Super fast, high quality, low price.  Highly recommend ECCO for this conversion.

Originally Posted By Sixtysixdeuce:


ATF doesn't have any kind of ruling on that which I'm aware of, but I would say it needs to securely attach to the tube and be capable of containing the pressure of actually firing the weapon through it.

Originally Posted By Removed_californian:

Internal geometry that indexes with the hider/brake.  You need it to properly mount and center the can.   You can technically bore out some of the wall, but the gains in volume are marginal at best.

Originally Posted By USAFtacFANAC:
I got the message to send my can in for a recore. I now have that tingling sensation.

For reference, I think I put my name on the waiting list in March if I remember correctly. Will post pics when I get them.

ETA: Maybe if I was wealthy or well-connected I could have used my positional power to cut in line LOL.

Originally Posted By ChrisinIdaho:


@sixtysixdeuce is this the criteria for the sacrificial end cap that we're going to send with the tube?  Or were you giving advice for end caps in general?  Does it specifically need to be threaded on?

Originally Posted By socommatthews:

Sweet. I put mine in March as well so hopefully I get an email soon.

Originally Posted By USAFtacFANAC:


Don't quote me on the exact date. Nick and Jerrica are awesome sports about me(and I bet others). Every couple of weeks I would annoy them on what number I was in the que.

I think it is more than fair that he has explained on multiple platforms that the wait will continue to be long because of demand and the fact that they will not hire someone who is not on par with their ability and QC. We know that they are well worth the wait, but I am sure there is some harsh words said to them about it, hence Nick's message about people fucking off if they try to cut in line or name drop.