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Posted: 3/13/2023 7:02:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D0minat0r: Anyone who has got their reply email with their stamp, what email is it coming from? Thanks, just so I can make sure it doesn't go to junk. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2023 12:06:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: D0minat0r]
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/16/2023 11:28:10 AM EDT
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These people move like pregnant Yaks.........
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Posted: 3/16/2023 11:30:28 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D0minat0r: Thank you. 2 months today. Crazy. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D0minat0r: Originally Posted By jaqufrost: [email protected] Thank you. 2 months today. Crazy. Same here. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 4:48:20 PM EDT
[#5]
1 of 6 approved now but happily it's the one I cared the most about.
Borrowed a stock from another SBR to model it now that I can put a VFG on it as well. It's so much nicer as an SBR. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 7:28:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firestarter123: 1 of 6 approved now but happily it's the one I cared the most about. Borrowed a stock from another SBR to model it now that I can put a VFG on it as well. It's so much nicer as an SBR. https://nextcloud.fstech.ltd/s/qCTJrYSFdtjcJ7C/preview |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 7:36:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jaqufrost: Needs a side folder! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jaqufrost: Originally Posted By Firestarter123: 1 of 6 approved now but happily it's the one I cared the most about. Borrowed a stock from another SBR to model it now that I can put a VFG on it as well. It's so much nicer as an SBR. https://nextcloud.fstech.ltd/s/qCTJrYSFdtjcJ7C/preview Is the best option the OEM stock? |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 7:37:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firestarter123: Is the best option the OEM stock? |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 3/16/2023 8:04:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: R3dundantC]
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Originally Posted By crazyelece: Besides the fact that everything you wrote is wrong After fully reading through the laws again, I freely admit that I was full of shit and completely misunderstood and outright missed some sections. My ignorance aside, my mistrust of the handling of this is probably not unwarranted and I still think paying the $200 is the way to go. |
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WV, USA
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Posted: 3/16/2023 9:16:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jaqufrost: I'm not sure. I'm still deciding on mine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jaqufrost: Originally Posted By Firestarter123: Is the best option the OEM stock? @jaqufrost @Firestarter123 I'll leave this here for y'all https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/What-stock-for-CZ-Scorpion-SBR/48-540178/ |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 9:48:55 PM EDT
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Thanks
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Posted: 3/16/2023 10:15:57 PM EDT
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In one of these threads(pretty sure this one without scouring) someone mentioned a dealer signing on their behalf and/or dealer using their login and password, ATF just sent these emails out.
 
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Posted: 3/17/2023 10:09:54 AM EDT
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I decided to submit a few more that I was on the fence about. The Internal Control Number has increased by 215,000 since mid-January.
It's also rather crazy seeing my 3XXX and 19,XXX ID #'s that I submitted when eForms was first created in 2013 to now with them being in the 3,XXX,XXX range. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/17/2023 10:30:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Diesel1979]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R3dundantC: After fully reading through the laws again, I freely admit that I was full of shit and completely misunderstood and outright missed some sections. My ignorance aside, my mistrust of the handling of this is probably not unwarranted and I still think paying the $200 is the way to go. Yea, nothing like sticking it to the man and paying the $200 tax when you can get by for free with the same end result. If the AFT raids me I guess I will eat my own shit though. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 3/17/2023 12:00:13 PM EDT
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Pay $200 and engrave my HK and other imports, or don’t pay $200 and leave my imports free of unneeded marks and more valuable as basically a factory imported SBR?
Such a tough choice. |
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Posted: 3/17/2023 12:11:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KitBuilder]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticoolNinjaName: Pay $200 and engrave my HK and other imports, or don't pay $200 and leave my imports free of unneeded marks and more valuable as basically a factory imported SBR? Such a tough choice. The level of paranoia surrounding this tax-deferment is astounding. (and I'm more paranoid than normal people so I feel like I can say that.  )
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UT, USA
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Posted: 3/17/2023 1:30:05 PM EDT
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so... i guess i might just be an idiot... but does the free stamp only apply to already owned pistols, or can i submit one today for a shiny new SBR?
I think im reading that i cannot get the free stamp for that, right? ive never done any of these ever, so this is all new to me and im sorting through the language. |
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Posted: 3/17/2023 1:35:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mediumdaddy: so... i guess i might just be an idiot... but does the free stamp only apply to already owned pistols, or can i submit one today for a shiny new SBR? I think im reading that i cannot get the free stamp for that, right? ive never done any of these ever, so this is all new to me and im sorting through the language. The tax forbearance only applies to braced firearms that were possessed by the person applying on 31 Jan 2023. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 3/17/2023 1:36:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jaqufrost: The tax forbearance only applies to braced firearms that were possessed by the person applying on 31 Jan 2023. thats what i thought but wasnt positive. thank you |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 3/17/2023 1:51:25 PM EDT
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what if it is a stripped lower I owned before 1/31... does that matter?
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WV, USA
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Posted: 3/17/2023 1:56:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mediumdaddy: so... i guess i might just be an idiot... but does the free stamp only apply to already owned pistols, or can i submit one today for a shiny new SBR? I think im reading that i cannot get the free stamp for that, right? ive never done any of these ever, so this is all new to me and im sorting through the language. Dealers aren't allowed to sell braced pistols after Jan 31 either. Private sales that have to go through an FFL are a no go as well. So a shiny new SBR would have to be on a tax-paid form 4 and a 9-10-11 month wait on approval. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 3/17/2023 1:58:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HammerTech: Dealers aren't allowed to sell braced pistols after Jan 31 either. Private sales that have to go through an FFL are a no go as well. So a shiny new SBR would have to be on a tax-paid form 4 and a 9-10-11 month wait on approval. assuming a stripped multi-cal lower wont fit the free-tax requirement, right? |
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WV, USA
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Posted: 3/17/2023 2:03:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mediumdaddy: what if it is a stripped lower I owned before 1/31... does that matter? If you had it assembled as a braced pistol before 1/31, then you should be good to apply. As long as it has never been a rifle. You did have it assembled, right? 
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UT, USA
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Posted: 3/17/2023 2:09:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HammerTech: If you had it assembled as a braced pistol before 1/31, then you should be good to apply. As long as it has never been a rifle. You did have it assembled, right? absolutely. |
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Posted: 3/17/2023 2:24:04 PM EDT
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another one got approved today. So 5/8 are done from 2/2
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WV, USA
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Posted: 3/17/2023 2:24:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mediumdaddy: absolutely. My Poverty Pony was approved after 58 days. Send in your application and get comfortable. They take a while to process. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 3/17/2023 2:32:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HammerTech: My Poverty Pony was approved after 58 days. Send in your application and get comfortable. They take a while to process. that name is epic. |
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Posted: 3/17/2023 2:52:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gdirty5: another one got approved today. So 5/8 are done from 2/2 I'm still sitting at 1/6 submitted on 1/16. I'm guessing I won't see the 3 I submitted today until next year honestly. |
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Posted: 3/17/2023 3:35:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firestarter123: I'm still sitting at 1/6 submitted on 1/16. I'm guessing I won't see the 3 I submitted today until next year honestly. I know someone else that submitted on 1/16 and they are waiting too. Hope they didn't lose the forms from that day. Or assign it to someone that's on vacation. |
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Posted: 3/17/2023 3:45:03 PM EDT
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there is no rime or reason to it, I had one from 2-24 approved at 13 days. I have others from Jan still not approved and one from 3-6 not approved why the picked one out of the middle of my 5 that I had done, no idea... so I got 4 more sitting out there on someones desk I guess. EFT prints.
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Posted: 3/17/2023 4:30:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Firestarter123]
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I'm not at 4/6 submitted on 1/16 as 3 more were approved just now within minutes of each other.
ETA: I'm now 6/6 as the other 2 just showed up in my inbox. Now to wait for the 3 I just submitted today. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/17/2023 8:02:36 PM EDT
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I did 2 out of my 3, but I’m contemplating just doing all 3.
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Posted: 3/17/2023 8:29:00 PM EDT
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I'm going to fill out the form for my ap5-p this weekend.
I was thinking about just leaving my ap5-m as a pistol, but I was thinking of sbring it as well. Is it allowable to take the stock/vfg off and then treat the M as a pistol for things like moving across state lines? Or does making it an SBR mean it is always an SBR? |
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Posted: 3/17/2023 8:33:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dino: I'm going to fill out the form for my ap5-p this weekend. I was thinking about just leaving my ap5-m as a pistol, but I was thinking of sbring it as well. Is it allowable to take the stock/vfg off and then treat the M as a pistol for things like moving across state lines? Or does making it an SBR mean it is always an SBR? |
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Posted: 3/17/2023 8:47:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jaqufrost: SBR's that started as pistols can revert to pistols anytime you want. Even temporarily (like for crossing state lines). Can only go back to being an SBR when you return to the registered address state however. 5320.20 is the permission slip for interstate travel as an SBR. |
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Posted: 3/17/2023 10:17:11 PM EDT
[#36]
I submitted one last form so now the wait begins….again
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USA
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Posted: 3/18/2023 10:30:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Diesel1979]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firestarter123: I submitted one last form so now the wait begins….again I submitted my last one last night as well. First 2 I did on March 1st. I have EFT for the prints on all of them, curious if that speeds anything up. |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 11:59:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Diesel1979: I submitted my last one last night as well. First 2 I did on March 1st. I have EFT for the prints on all of them, curious if that speeds anything up. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Diesel1979: Originally Posted By Firestarter123: I submitted one last form so now the wait begins….again I submitted my last one last night as well. First 2 I did on March 1st. I have EFT for the prints on all of them, curious if that speeds anything up. It doesn't as mine all used EFT's and it took 2 months to get them back while others got theirs in 3 weeks. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 3/18/2023 12:24:16 PM EDT
[#39]
Two Form1s submitted 1/31/23
One Form1 approved 3/27/23 Paper DIY prints |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 8:26:15 PM EDT
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Anyone had issues uploading documents? I was attaching my trust (5mb PDF) and it's been sitting here for 20 minutes spinning and saying do not refresh your browser.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 3/18/2023 8:40:52 PM EDT
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All these felons once the ruling gets an injunction and your stamps invalidated. Back to your pistol braces. Now they have a record too.
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Posted: 3/18/2023 8:53:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By captexas: Anyone had issues uploading documents? I was attaching my trust (5mb PDF) and it's been sitting here for 20 minutes spinning and saying do not refresh your browser. Using SS full-auto took about 5 attempts before it worked and submitted my paperwork. |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 9:30:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Using SS full-auto took about 5 attempts before it worked and submitted my paperwork. I finally refreshed the page and went back to the draft to try again. Took about 5 tries as well. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 3/18/2023 9:33:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jaqufrost: SBR's that started as pistols can revert to pistols anytime you want. Ok, this is the first I've heard of this. So you can register an AR pistol as an SBR, then just remove the stock when traveling to another state and it's automatically a pistol again? If this is what you're saying that is awesome news for me! My county actually borders Florida and I travel there a few times every month. I've been pondering on whether or not to register one of my AR pistols because it is my truck gun. I have even thought of building a separate lower for it just for traveling to Florida. |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 9:54:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wandell: Ok, this is the first I've heard of this. So you can register an AR pistol as an SBR, then just remove the stock when traveling to another state and it's automatically a pistol again? If this is what you're saying that is awesome news for me! My county actually borders Florida and I travel there a few times every month. I've been pondering on whether or not to register one of my AR pistols because it is my truck gun. I have even thought of building a separate lower for it just for traveling to Florida. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/18/2023 10:49:24 PM EDT
[#46]
The laws make perfect sense.
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NV, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2023 7:19:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HammerTech: If you had it assembled as a braced pistol before 1/31, then you should be good to apply. As long as it has never been a rifle. You did have it assembled, right? I made a point of taking some time stamped pics of my braced pistol and e mailing them to myself in case that was ever questioned. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2023 12:34:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: D0minat0r]
[#48]
This rule will be shot down before most of us even get a stamp. HAHA.....Make them do all this work for nothing, hats off A T F, bunch of dumbasses....
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USA
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Posted: 3/19/2023 12:52:33 PM EDT
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Hypothetical question since it has come up a few times. What if we all get our approvals prior and assuming it gets shot down. Do we no longer have SBR’s? Is there an actual determination out there on this by the so called authorities?
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2023 1:10:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Diesel1979: Hypothetical question since it has come up a few times. What if we all get our approvals prior and assuming it gets shot down. Do we no longer have SBR’s? Is there an actual determination out there on this by the so called authorities? This is what I am thinking as well, since its in "conditionally approved " when you get the approval. If this gets shot down, I am going to remove my form 1s. I want a job doing this, since its takes forever, Id like to do 1-2 form 1's everyday and call it a day, hit the range.... |
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