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Posted: 3/17/2015 12:15:35 PM EDT
| adding my 2nd rifle to my trust and was wondering do I put the dash AM-15 on the paper work or is it AM15? I cant get on ATF's web site on this computer to check |
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adding my 2nd rifle to my trust and was wondering do I put the dash AM-15 on the paper work or is it AM15? I cant get on ATF's web site on this computer to check Why would you think you wouldn't? And what ATF site were you going to check? If it's engraved on the lower, put it on the form. Even better, upload a pic that shows exactly what's engraved for model and SN. |
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Submit it exactly as engraved, regardless of whether that model is in the dropdown list. If it's not, check the box and type it in. Attach a pic of the engraving.
The dropdown lists are populated by previous entries. Zero guarantee that it's correct just because it's in a dropdown. |
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Here is what ATF tells us about special characters:
https://www.atf.gov/files/publications/newsletters/ffl/ffl-newsletter-2011-02.pdf Page 6 Special Characters in Serial Numbers
Some licensees may be under the misinterpretation that they should remove special characters from their Access 2000 submissions by the National Tracing Center (NTC). As a result, this may have led to a determination that this authorized removal is also permissible in other required records. Access 2000 submissions are not required to have any characters removed. Submissions to the NTC are copies of acquisition and disposition records and are not primary records. Access 2000 is only a query tool that is simplified to find the correct serial number for a specific Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL), regardless of if a special character is recorded. It is not the original record kept by the licensee for the business, nor for compliance inspections. You are required to maintain acquisition and disposition records with the information marked on the gun, including special characters. The special characters located within serial numbering schemes may provide specific designations, and thus holds value to the manufacturer. These special characters marked on each firearm should remain in your tracking tools, such as your bar coding software, and you must record special characters in your required records. A primary purpose of the Gun Control Act (GCA) was to enable firearms to be traced from the manufacturer or importer of the firearm through the firearm’s chain of distribution. It is important that the identifying information contained on firearms is accurately and fully recorded in the acquisition and disposition records retained by FFLs. |
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Submit it exactly as engraved, regardless of whether that model is in the dropdown list. If it's not, check the box and type it in. Attach a pic of the engraving. The dropdown lists are populated by previous entries. Zero guarantee that it's correct just because it's in a dropdown. This. Just follow BigWaylon's advice. I SBR'ed an Anderson using AM-15. YMMV, but why risk it getting kicked back? |
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Quoted: This. Just follow BigWaylon's advice. I SBR'ed an Anderson using AM-15. YMMV, but why risk it getting kicked back? Quoted: Quoted: Submit it exactly as engraved, regardless of whether that model is in the dropdown list. If it's not, check the box and type it in. Attach a pic of the engraving. The dropdown lists are populated by previous entries. Zero guarantee that it's correct just because it's in a dropdown. This. Just follow BigWaylon's advice. I SBR'ed an Anderson using AM-15. YMMV, but why risk it getting kicked back? |
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E-file? Check your form, does it still say AM-15 or was it shortened to AM15? I'm pretty sure I submitted mine with AM-15 and the efile system dropped the dash. It was still correct to submit with the dash, I just think their system has an issue with dashes. Quoted:
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Submit it exactly as engraved, regardless of whether that model is in the dropdown list. If it's not, check the box and type it in. Attach a pic of the engraving. The dropdown lists are populated by previous entries. Zero guarantee that it's correct just because it's in a dropdown. This. Just follow BigWaylon's advice. I SBR'ed an Anderson using AM-15. YMMV, but why risk it getting kicked back? Same here, I just checked mine. |
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Submit it exactly as engraved, regardless of whether that model is in the dropdown list. If it's not, check the box and type it in. Attach a pic of the engraving. The dropdown lists are populated by previous entries. Zero guarantee that it's correct just because it's in a dropdown. This. Just follow BigWaylon's advice. I SBR'ed an Anderson using AM-15. YMMV, but why risk it getting kicked back? Same here, I just checked mine. I'll have to go check - we have to keep our cell's in lockers outside but I have photo's of all my stamps on it. Give me 20 mins. |
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I have approved EForms that have dashes in the model and/or SN. (Not an Anderson, but other brands).
But, final formatting of form shouldn't dictate how you fill out the form. For instance, you choose "caliber" or "mm" (or something else) for unit of measure...but it doesn't show on the form. Doesn't mean you don't choose one. Also, if you input something in Description, it doesn't show up on the form. Plus, there are all kinds of bits of info in the dropdowns that aren't correct. So...fill in the form with accurate info, and how they format it shouldn't matter. |
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Quoted: I have approved EForms that have dashes in the model and/or SN. (Not an Anderson, but other brands). But, final formatting of form shouldn't dictate how you fill out the form. For instance, you choose "caliber" or "mm" (or something else) for unit of measure...but it doesn't show on the form. Doesn't mean you don't choose one. Also, if you input something in Description, it doesn't show up on the form. Plus, there are all kinds of bits of info in the dropdowns that aren't correct. So...fill in the form with accurate info, and how they format it shouldn't matter. Interesting. I noticed it on another brand. I put the dash in, and sent a picture of the side of the receiver showing the dash was correct. Then the form came back with the dash removed. That's when I checked the form on my Anderson and noticed it was missing as well. Either way, our job is to fill out the form correctly, which means all dashes included. |
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I just has my efile stamp come in Feb 26 and I used AM15 no dash like the drop down. The lower is stamped AM-15 so in my case it it did not create a problem. Quoted:
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I used AM15......hoping I dont disapproved now after reading this. I just has my efile stamp come in Feb 26 and I used AM15 no dash like the drop down. The lower is stamped AM-15 so in my case it it did not create a problem. |
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