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1/4/2014 5:34:49 AM EDT
I've been looking around trying to decide what my next build will be and been thinking about a SBR. If I decide to go that route it will be supressed and have all the proper paperwork/stamps. Reading through a bunch of different threads on 14.5" barrels with pinned flash hiders to make them legal made me think about something. How many of you have been at the range and the ATF show up and start checking guns? Just curious, and I would never try to own a illegal weapon and risk jail time, but what's the chances of actually getting caught?
1/4/2014 4:09:36 AM EDT
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I've been looking around trying to decide what my next build will be and been thinking about a SBR. If I decide to go that route it will be supressed and have all the proper paperwork/stamps. Reading through a bunch of different threads on 14.5" barrels with pinned flash hiders to make them legal made me think about something. How many of you have been at the range and the ATF show up and start checking guns? Just curious, and I would never try to own a illegal weapon and risk jail time, but what's the chances of actually getting caught?
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It's not worth the fines, jail time, and or confiscation.

There's a famous Arfcom adage:  Play stupid games.....win stupid prizes.

To answer question, I have never been asked about my pinned 14.5 or my 10.3" ars.


1/4/2014 4:17:26 AM EDT
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I've never been asked by anyone and it wouldn't surprise me if I never was.



I keep adding stamps to the collection.
1/4/2014 4:24:02 AM EDT
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I have a 14.5 pinned and the RO thought it was an sbr...I said nope all legal but I am waiting on a stamp for one. Perceptions can get you in trouble if they have no idea. Stupid games...win stupid prizes and I have the scars to prove it!
1/4/2014 6:27:31 AM EDT
[#4]
Avoiding the federal pound is worth what I have tied up in stamps.
1/4/2014 7:01:31 AM EDT
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I've been regularly shooting a 14.5" with a pinned phantom for the last ten years at a couple of different ranges and have never had anyone give it a second look.  I've had a few fuds question the legality of my can though.  
1/4/2014 7:03:42 AM EDT
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Nothing yet but of course I still carry all SBR paperwork with me every time.  

Probably more likely to have a RSO or a local LEO (who's there shooting too) ask questions before you'd see an ATF agent at your range specifically doing checks though.
1/4/2014 7:19:34 AM EDT
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I've never had any LEO question me about any of my guns at a public range. Have had RO's ask to see my paper on the MG's, but that's all.

That said, I would never take the slightest chance of showing up to shoot anywhere with an illegally-configured firearm. I always carry copies of my Form 4's with each weapon. And to be extra safe, copies of Texas law relating to the ownership of MG's/suppressors/SBR's.
1/4/2014 7:23:00 AM EDT
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I took the SBR to a range I shoot at a lot, the RO picks it up.
Looks it over and hands it back. His only commit was "selectors broke, wont go to auto".
1/4/2014 7:53:49 AM EDT
[#9]
Never been asked; doesn't mean never will.
1/4/2014 12:00:35 PM EDT
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You need to be a little creative to see the multitude of ways you might be caught.

Fire at your house, traffic stop, angry wife/girlfriend/boyfriend, etc.

The coincidence of an ATF agent at the range just when you happen to be is a rarity in the extreme. And ATF agents are rarely on the discovery end of NFA violations. More likely scenario is the range officer calls the local police on you and a ATF is brought in thereafter.
1/4/2014 12:36:09 PM EDT
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Like I said in the original post, I would never try it, just curious how many have been checked.
1/4/2014 2:05:39 PM EDT
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Like I said in the original post, I would never try it, just curious how many have been checked.
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whatever you say ATF guy.....
1/5/2014 6:28:21 AM EDT
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You need to be a little creative to see the multitude of ways you might be caught.

Fire at your house, traffic stop, angry wife/girlfriend/boyfriend, etc.

The coincidence of an ATF agent at the range just when you happen to be is a rarity in the extreme. And ATF agents are rarely on the discovery end of NFA violations. More likely scenario is the range officer calls the local police on you and a ATF is brought in thereafter.
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One of my childhood buddies dad was a principle and was accused of smoking meth at the school he worked at. It made big news around here.

I saw my buddy at the store a while back and he was telling me how ATF raided their house with at least 6 guys and confiscated all of the guns in the house. They even looked through family photo albums, looking for pictures of them shooting guns and wanted to know where they were.

His dad's charge was a misdemeanor and ended up getting dropped completely because there was no evidence it ever even happened.

Last I heard, they still hadn't returned any of his guns, despite there being no charges. I'm sure if he had ay type of NFA, 922r violation, etc., my buddy or his dad would still be in jail.
1/8/2014 4:21:38 PM EDT
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I would never chance it... the cost of loosing everything and going to jail is just not worth it.

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