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Posted: 1/20/2013 10:20:11 AM EDT
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I did as much research as I could about getting an SBR, and was still left with a few questions. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
1. If I have an SBR, can I change the barrel length, as long as it is NFA registered? Can I change from say a 10" barrel to an 8" to a 18" without any additional paperwork? 2. If the weapon is NFA registered as an SBR, can I let my friend's borrow it (without me being present) with an 16"+ barrel on it? 3. The form 1 asks for a mailing address. Does this HAVE to be my current resident address? Is there anything wrong with giving them my friend's address in the same town? 4. Do I need to do anything to update my address if I move within the same state? |
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1. Once you have the stamp, you can have as many uppers and calibers you desire.
2. Yes. Without the short barrel upper, it isn't considered an SBR. 3. The address has to be the same as the person applying for the stamp. 4. The ATF requests a change of address intrastate, but doesn't require it It would benefit you a great deal to peruse the ATF website and "ar15.com stickies." |
| The reason I ask about the address is because I live on a military installation. Regulations for the installation state that I cannot be in posession of a rifle with a barrel length of less than 16" (whether I have a tax stamp or not). This only applies to a complete assembled rifle. The reason I ask about the address is because I do not want there to be any reason for my application to get denied. If I put my current address on it (which lists the installation as the city), I forsee that as a reason for them to deny the application. Or is this not the case? I already cleared it with the installation PMO, that as long as the rifle is not assembled in SBR status, it is fair game. Therefore, I can simply transport the rifle with a longer barrel (or no barrel) on and off the installation, and when I get to my destination off the installation, I an put the short barrel back on. |
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The reason I ask about the address is because I live on a military installation. Regulations for the installation state that I cannot be in posession of a rifle with a barrel length of less than 16" (whether I have a tax stamp or not). This only applies to a complete assembled rifle. The reason I ask about the address is because I do not want there to be any reason for my application to get denied. If I put my current address on it (which lists the installation as the city), I forsee that as a reason for them to deny the application. Or is this not the case? I already cleared it with the installation PMO, that as long as the rifle is not assembled in SBR status, it is fair game. Therefore, I can simply transport the rifle with a longer barrel (or no barrel) on and off the installation, and when I get to my destination off the installation, I an put the short barrel back on. You'll need the CLEO signature, likely the provost marshal, and this would alleviate any ATF concern about base policy. I doubt ATF would even know about such a thing. You do not want to use another address as it may create suspicion that you are trying to duck residency requirements. |
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The reason I ask about the address is because I live on a military installation. Regulations for the installation state that I cannot be in posession of a rifle with a barrel length of less than 16" (whether I have a tax stamp or not). This only applies to a complete assembled rifle. The reason I ask about the address is because I do not want there to be any reason for my application to get denied. If I put my current address on it (which lists the installation as the city), I forsee that as a reason for them to deny the application. Or is this not the case? I already cleared it with the installation PMO, that as long as the rifle is not assembled in SBR status, it is fair game. Therefore, I can simply transport the rifle with a longer barrel (or no barrel) on and off the installation, and when I get to my destination off the installation, I an put the short barrel back on. You'll need the CLEO signature, likely the provost marshal, and this would alleviate any ATF concern about base policy. I doubt ATF would even know about such a thing. You do not want to use another address as it may create suspicion that you are trying to duck residency requirements. The provost marshal doesn't sign off on it, it has to be a local LEO, the county sheriff. As far as I know, the form only asks for a mailing address. I don't see how that would create any suspicion on the residency requirement? |
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Put your actual residence on the form.
If you can't possess the SBR in your residence, then you'll need to get a safe deposit box, or make other safe storage arrangements. You can leave the firearm at a friend's house, provided it is locked up and your friend has no way to access it without you being present, but you still need to use your own address on the application. |
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Put your actual residence on the form. If you can't possess the SBR in your residence, then you'll need to get a safe deposit box, or make other safe storage arrangements. You can leave the firearm at a friend's house, provided it is locked up and your friend has no way to access it without you being present, but you still need to use your own address on the application. Do you anticipate my residence belonging to a military base as being reason to deny the application? Again, I simply cannot own the firearms in SBR status at my residence. If I take the barrel of, or put one over 16" on the rifle, it is fair game. |
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Do you anticipate my residence belonging to a military base as being reason to deny the application? Again, I simply cannot own the firearms in SBR status at my residence. If I take the barrel of, or put one over 16" on the rifle, it is fair game. I can't guarantee they won't deny it because you live on a military base. But I can guarantee they'll deny it if you put a random friend's address on the form and they catch it. You need to fill out the application with your information, not your friend's. |
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Do you anticipate my residence belonging to a military base as being reason to deny the application? Again, I simply cannot own the firearms in SBR status at my residence. If I take the barrel of, or put one over 16" on the rifle, it is fair game. I can't guarantee they won't deny it because you live on a military base. But I can guarantee they'll deny it if you put a random friend's address on the form and they catch it. You need to fill out the application with your information, not your friend's. The form says "mailing address". A mailing address is where you choose to receive your mail, is it not? |
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The form says "mailing address". A mailing address is where you choose to receive your mail, is it not? Are you seriously trying to make the implication that your "mailing address" is your friend's house, simply because you choose to send a piece of mail there addressed to you? 
Your mailing address is not your friend's house. Put your own address on the form and send it in. End of thread. Why are you even here asking for advice if you refuse to listen to multiple people who tell you something you don't want to hear? We gave you an answer and you refuse to accept it. If you won't listen to reason, then put whatever you want on the form and send it in. Just don't post here when it gets kicked back. |
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Do you anticipate my residence belonging to a military base as being reason to deny the application? Again, I simply cannot own the firearms in SBR status at my residence. If I take the barrel of, or put one over 16" on the rifle, it is fair game. I can't guarantee they won't deny it because you live on a military base. But I can guarantee they'll deny it if you put a random friend's address on the form and they catch it. You need to fill out the application with your information, not your friend's. The form says "mailing address". A mailing address is where you choose to receive your mail, is it not? You're way over thinking this. Your residential address is immutable, another mailing address won't hide or cover this nor will it address what you fear. The firearm won't reside at the mailing address but at your residence. Just fill out the application for your real on-base residence. It's highly doubtful they will know the minutiae of base policy. And if they do, then deal with that then. Again, the CLEO signature will cover this issue in all likelihood. Don't sabotage the application trying to avoid a minor to non-issue. |
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