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NH, USA
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Posted: 10/25/2004 4:14:26 AM EDT
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I always put 2"-24" for barrel length when making an SBR. This is a simple way to make sure you do not get hassled. mark [email protected] |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/29/2004 12:33:24 PM EDT
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Budam:
If you use 2"-24" on barrel length, what figures do you use for overall length? Thanks! hug.gif |
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AK, USA
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Posted: 10/30/2004 12:07:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: lostngone]
[#4]
Another Question…
If I filled out a form 1 to make my AR15 into a SBR(and was approved) can I legally take the upper to a gunsmith and have him/her put the shorter barrel on the upper? Would this be legal? Or a different question. Can I legally buy an upper with a barrel length less then 16 inches without breaking the law? |
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Posted: 10/30/2004 11:59:40 AM EDT
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As long as the smith only has the upper, it should be fine. You may also buy the upper. |
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NH, USA
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Posted: 11/12/2004 6:32:56 PM EDT
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You could give the complete gun to the FFL gunsmith who would put a short barrel onto the upper. Any smith worth their salt will test it on your complete gun and make sure it works. Completely legal... No form 5 is required for gunsmithing like above.
If you have an SBR, MG o an AR15 pistol. mark [email protected] |
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NH, USA
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Posted: 11/12/2004 6:33:56 PM EDT
[#7]
I measure the length of fire less barrel assembly and then add it to minimum/maximum length. mark [email protected] |
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NH, USA
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Posted: 11/12/2004 6:36:36 PM EDT
[#8]
Yes, you are the manufacture of the SBR. Put your initials and a abbreviation of your city and state. Example: Lostgone Itching Goodboy at Merrimack, New Hampshire would be: LIG MMK NH mark [email protected] |
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Posted: 11/15/2004 12:51:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: longshot_va]
[#9]
No one answered this question:
What are acceptable reasons as to why you intend to make a firearm (box 4i)? tia, -LS |
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Posted: 11/15/2004 3:31:41 PM EDT
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Two more newbie (dumb) questions:
On the Citizenship form, who's name is entered on line 2. ..Certifying to citizenship__________? Does this form need to be notarized? -LS |
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Posted: 11/15/2004 4:39:52 PM EDT
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Your name goes in line#2. You end up certifying yourself. No, the form does not need to be notarized. |
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Posted: 11/18/2004 4:57:11 PM EDT
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What do you use to "affix photo" to the form?
Tape? Staple? iron on transfer?  -LS |
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Posted: 11/18/2004 8:32:46 PM EDT
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I glued mine on using some of my daughters "Arts+Crafts" glue. |
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Posted: 11/18/2004 8:34:31 PM EDT
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I used double sided tape from good ole' Wally World.
Been 30 days, ain't heard nothin' Danny |
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Posted: 11/18/2004 9:47:17 PM EDT
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simply answer the question. Why do you want one? I put "enhance collection" |
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Posted: 11/19/2004 7:43:02 PM EDT
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I was informed to put "Firearms Collector" by a couple of friends who have already went through the process. The ATF just cashed my check last week, I assume thats a good sign. 
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Posted: 11/26/2004 1:19:52 AM EDT
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If you put a can on a SBR is there a way to only pay for just one $200 stamp.
Like if the guy who makes the cans, soders the can to the barrel? So the can makes it 16 or so? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/26/2004 4:37:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jamng]
[#18]
The FAQ mentions pre and postban configurations. I assume that this no longer has any meaning in those states that the AWB has truly sunset or is there some special nuance of the law that make a pre-94 lower of benefit?
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SC, USA
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Posted: 11/29/2004 12:15:04 PM EDT
[#19]
I have a question about the "apllication to make and register a firearm" form.
If you have a C&R license would you need to put that in box 5? Thanks |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 11/29/2004 5:43:10 PM EDT
[#20]
Quick questions on Corporate Route: 1. The SBR would be considered an asset, therefore Taxable, right? Also it would depreciate just like any other Asset, right? 2. Does it matter what type of a Corporation, such as a standard Corp, sun-chapter S, LLL, and most importantly a Trust??? I am thinking of forming a Family Trust for personal finance reasons, and if this could also be used as the holder of the SBR, then everything would be PERFECT for me???? |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 12/8/2004 3:24:09 PM EDT
[#21]
Hey- this link doesn't work anymore- can someone find the thread referenced here? |
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Posted: 12/8/2004 3:56:13 PM EDT
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You should ask your accountant about this. Mine said that unless the item is in used in the corporation's business (like a computer would be), it is considered an investment asset instead of a working asset. So he would not write off any depreciation, but if/when the corporation sells the SBR, any loss becomes deductible.
"C" corps, "S" corps and LLCs are fine. Family Trusts are another matter -- I know of several cases where BATF has refused to transfer NFA items to trusts here in Florida. Other states may vary. In addition, NFA-savvy attorneys and accountants have told me that for legal/accounting reasons, trusts are not a good way to go. (I don't recall the details because I use an established "S" corp; however, BATF generally requires the transferee to be a legal entity acknowledged, chartered or licensed by the state of residence, and many trusts do not meet that criteria.) HTH. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2004 1:11:56 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/11/2004 1:59:11 AM EDT
[#24]
You are a licensed collector, not a licensed dealer, so no, you would not need to. You can put that info in if you like, but I doubt it will have any effect either way. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2004 5:38:38 PM EDT
[#25]
Thank you
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Posted: 12/13/2004 1:41:20 PM EDT
[#26]
Who do you make the check out to?
In the FAQ is says "ATF" but on the form it says, "Department of the Treasury." Which is it? ???? -LS |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/13/2004 4:37:42 PM EDT
[#27]
On Form 1, section 4. H. it states "ADDITIONAL DESCRIPTION (Include all numbers and other identifying data which will appear on the firearm)"
What is this used for? Should I put what I plan on engraving on the lower once approved? (my name and city/state)? |
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Posted: 12/13/2004 11:51:59 PM EDT
[#28]
Taggedf
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Posted: 12/19/2004 3:56:14 AM EDT
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I sent in my paperwork about two months ago. Can anybody give me even a rough idea of when I should expect to hear something from the ATF?
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/19/2004 9:52:08 PM EDT
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Are you ready for a long winter's nap? I am at the 4 1/2 month mark next week. You are dealing with the BATFE, they will serve you when they get around to it. Don't even start calling until 4 months have passed.
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Posted: 12/19/2004 10:27:30 PM EDT
[#31]
A friend just got his can paperwork back after 5 months.
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Posted: 12/19/2004 10:47:32 PM EDT
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Damn
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Posted: 12/19/2004 10:59:08 PM EDT
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Double Damn! Top that off with F@#k! Danny
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OH, USA
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Posted: 12/28/2004 5:21:45 PM EDT
[#34]
Did I call too soon? I mailed my packet to them on 11/22/04 and the USPS confirmed that it was delivered on 11/26/04. I called today to check the status and was told that they had no record of my serial number. My check hasnt been cashed yet either. The operator told me that I may have to resumit my forms. That would not be good. Should I be patient and keep looking for the check to be cashed and call again later?
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OH, USA
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Posted: 12/29/2004 11:58:13 PM EDT
[#35]
I'm new to AR ownership (2 weeks) and considering an SBR build. Most of the SBR build websites refer to pre-ban and post-ban lower receivers, but not non-ban. I'm assuming this is because they haven't been updated since the sunset. But just in case, as long as I don't live in a state or city that regulates SBRs, can I build it using any lower?
Thanks! |
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Posted: 12/30/2004 4:23:23 AM EDT
[#36]
Yes |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 1/2/2005 12:48:16 PM EDT
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Any suggestions on how to contact CLEOs to see if they sign? If by mail, is there a recommended form letter?
Thanks! |
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Posted: 1/2/2005 5:26:18 PM EDT
[#38]
They won't have a record of your serial number until well after your check has cleared. I would check with your bank for your check to clear and then wait atleast 10 days for BATF to have you on record. You have a while to wait still, expect about a 4 month wait (minimum). |
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Posted: 1/4/2005 1:28:08 AM EDT
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Ask around in your hometown forum. You can also call your sheriffs/police dept., and ask to speak with the sherif/police chief ( you probabkly won't get further than their secretary however) and just ask them (chief or secretary). |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 1/24/2005 6:41:22 PM EDT
[#40]
I just went down to our department and asked him to sign my paperwork. But then again, I know all the officers in our town. My problem will be, that they will all want to shoot my SBR when I have finished it.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 2/13/2005 4:48:57 PM EDT
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Did you get approval yet? |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 2/13/2005 4:57:41 PM EDT
[#43]
Now that's a good problem to have....
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AK, USA
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Posted: 2/14/2005 9:01:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lostngone]
[#44]
From my post on 10/29/2004:
Well its now 02/14/2005 and I am still waiting. BATFE cashed my check on Nov 15, I know that doesn't mean anything. |
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Posted: 2/21/2005 3:30:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M4arc]
[#45]
I went to the ATF's website to order my fingerprint cards and there are 4 FD-258s listed.
Is this the one I need to submit with my SBR paperwork: FBI FD-258LE - NFA, Imports ORI DCATF0100? I printed all my other forms but need to order these. Thanks! |
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Posted: 3/15/2005 3:16:21 AM EDT
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If this has been asked, then I'm sorry, I didn't see it. <aybe it's just obvious.
So basically, I buy the lower first, correct? then this is the serial number I use? and obvously the part that gets engraved when I get approved. can I buy the lower as a Pistol, build it as a pistol then convert it when aproved? Thanks. |
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Posted: 3/15/2005 9:32:57 AM EDT
[#47]
Correct |
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Posted: 3/15/2005 9:40:10 AM EDT
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Thanks.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/15/2005 10:16:13 AM EDT
[#49]
I was under the impression that once it's registered as a pistol, it's a pistol. Does the addition of a stock make it an AOW or SBR? And remember, as Mr. Garrison would say on South Park, "there are not dumb questions, just dumb people." Thanks in advance. Shot, over. 
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Posted: 3/15/2005 10:31:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MudBug]
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I'm not positive about how this applies to AR's but I'm sure it's the same as everything else. I have a T/C Encore Pistol, which I can buy all the hardware for and turn it into a rifle (if I buy rifle length barrels). If I had a T/C rifle, I could legally turn it into a pistol. Sounds weird right, well the reason it is legal is that all T/C frames are registered as pistols. |
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