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1/12/2014 11:40:03 AM EDT
Well, I discovered the carrier key in my Stag Arms was loose last night. The original factory staking was that bizzare "slot" type where the head of the screw looks like someone cut it with a dremel tool so you could use a flat head screwdriver with it.  Anyhow, it held up for quite some time, but now the key has come loose. I tightened the screws again, and took the carrier out to the vise and used a cold chisel to re stake it as a temporary measure, then went right in and ordered some new screws and a new carrier key from Brownells.



So, when the new parts come in, I will want to do a correct and proper job of staking it. What are the minimum tools I need to do the job correctly? Brownell's sells a fixture for $80 or so, but I can't justify spending that much for one or two carriers. So, do I use a center punch, or a chisel? The chisel seems a little too "sharp" to flow the metal. Seems like it cuts it instead. I am thinking of getting a cheap cold chisel and blunting it a bit for the purpose. My center punch (if I can find it) is pretty sharp as well, and I'm not sure it would be a good choice either.




Just want to do the job correctly without having to buy an expensive fixture.
1/12/2014 1:31:33 PM EDT
[#1]
You want a punch and a hammer.  

The lines that were cut in is for re tightening the bolt to the same spot I believe.
1/12/2014 4:42:19 PM EDT
[#2]
Well sure, but what kind of punch? Just a plain old center punch? I am inclined to think the cut lines were more for making a space in the sides of the bolts for the metal from the key to flow into, but I could be wrong about that. Still, the sides of the screws are grooved to begin with.
1/12/2014 8:21:18 PM EDT
[#3]
Hammer, vise, modified or center punch, torque wrench, bit and a TM (-9 T&P ?).

The AR forum might help as well, although this may have gone to archive
1/13/2014 11:03:03 AM EDT
[#4]
You can use a center punch with the tip rounded off to put in the punch-type stakes beside the cap screws, or use a flat chisel with the cutting tip blunted to make the side compression type stakes on the corners of the carrier lug beside the key bolts.

Either has been used and both work.  Remember that the intent of this is to move some metal into the bolts to prevent them from unscrewing, not to just make punch marks.
1/13/2014 2:37:35 PM EDT
[#5]
Pocket MOACKS is the solution you seek.  Price is steep, but well worth it.

ETA:  If you are only going to use it once, PM me, and I'll ship you mine with a security deposit of some sort which I will return when you ship it back.
1/13/2014 3:44:33 PM EDT
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Pocket MOACKS is the solution you seek.  Price is steep, but well worth it.

ETA:  If you are only going to use it once, PM me, and I'll ship you mine with a security deposit of some sort which I will return when you ship it back.
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This is a damn good idea and I've thought about doing the same.  Problem I see is the how to do it.  "It was broke when I got it!"   Tools to lend would be great if all
were honest.
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