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Posted: 5/14/2012 9:40:59 PM EDT
| i just put in bedding pillars in a mosin. my question is, when i bed the reciever, how do i keep the bedding material out of the pillars and keep it from oozing into the screw holes in the reciever when i apply the material and place the parts together, just before screwing? I though about putting a piece of painters tape with a razor slit to allow the screw to penetrate without taking paper with it, but then thought the tape would create a small, but uneccesary, gap between the reciever and bedding material/stock. |
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Modeling clay to fill the voids, then coat everything that you do not want the bedding to bond to with the release agent (including the action bolts).
As for the receiver bolts, you are going to be removing them once the bedding agent starts to set up in a few hours, not after the bedding has been sitting for 24 hours when its time to remove the action from the stock instead. |
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i'm not worried about them sticking, but...
say i fill the stock with bedding material, around the pillars and such. Now, when i squeeze the pieces together, the material is going to move, and ooze (which is normal) but what is stopping it from oozing into the pillars where the screws will go? and whatever does seep in there, now when i put the reciever screws in, it will push it into the screw holes and maybe limit the screw travel or just gum it all up. how do i stop the oozing into the pillars? Especially on the front where i have 1/8 inch from the hole to the back of the recoil lug spot where the material has to go..... |
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i'm not worried about them sticking, but... say i fill the stock with bedding material, around the pillars and such. Now, when i squeeze the pieces together, the material is going to move, and ooze (which is normal) but what is stopping it from oozing into the pillars where the screws will go? and whatever does seep in there, now when i put the reciever screws in, it will push it into the screw holes and maybe limit the screw travel or just gum it all up. how do i stop the oozing into the pillars? Especially on the front where i have 1/8 inch from the hole to the back of the recoil lug spot where the material has to go..... I do it in 2 steps, but I don't have to make a living at it! I bed the pillars in the stock first, then bed the action...works for me everytime. |
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i'm not worried about them sticking, but... say i fill the stock with bedding material, around the pillars and such. Now, when i squeeze the pieces together, the material is going to move, and ooze (which is normal) but what is stopping it from oozing into the pillars where the screws will go? and whatever does seep in there, now when i put the reciever screws in, it will push it into the screw holes and maybe limit the screw travel or just gum it all up. how do i stop the oozing into the pillars? Especially on the front where i have 1/8 inch from the hole to the back of the recoil lug spot where the material has to go..... I do it in 2 steps, but I don't have to make a living at it! I bed the pillars in the stock first, then bed the action...works for me everytime. Lol that's what I am doing and pillars are in. How do I keep the material from seeping into the pillars when I squeeze the reciever on top of the stock? |
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I know it's too late, but I usually put the pillars onto the action, wrap some tape around the barrel in two spots so that the action sits correctly into the stock.
In your case, wrap some tape around the screws that you're going to use for alignment. Put enough tape on so it's kind of snug but still slides into the pillars and as mentioned before, use a release agent. My favorite is Kiwi. When you're done, check to make sure your action screws don't touch the insides of the pillars. If they do, drill for clearance and any oozing will be taken care of. |
haha, well the worst has happened. the lower screw wont budge and i've almost started to strip it. looks like my project for tomorrow is dril off the head and go from there.... i coated it with release agent but apparently it oozed somewhere too much. oh well, youi win you lose and learn as you go 
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This is my secret release agent.
This paste tap lube is the most fantastic thing I've ever used in epoxy bedding. It stays where you put it, nothing will stick to it, and it's easy to clean up. I've tried multiple things, but aside from being a fantastic tapping lubricant, I've found nothing that protects screws and actions from sticking better than Boelube. |
| well i think too much squeezed into the screw hole. Other than that, the rest popped out as if it was never epoxied at all..... my secret, KIWI nuetral shoe polish. Wipe the first coat in like you're waxing, and then put a looser coat on top. works pretty damn good, cheap as dirt, and readily available at walmart |
| next hurdle (again this is my first bed so i expected some "learning").... i re-bedded to fill some imperfections, and where the bolt is, i bedded pillars first. on the second bed, apparently the action didn't go all the way down as far as it should have (although it did bed perfectly), because a thin layer went over the top of the pillar in the lug hole (mosin nagant).... is this ok, as long as the bedding is direction on top of the pillars? or because the action isnt directly touching the pillar, could this work negatively against what i'm trying to do? (i'd just really hate to grind everything out.., or just wait until i shoot it and see how it does?) |
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The best way to do this is to bolt the pillars to the action, tightly, with everything coated with release agent, and then apply epoxy to the stock and action and allow it to cure.
Obviously, that's kinda simplistic, as there's a good bit of fitting that needs to be done before and after to insure that everything is sitting stress free. |
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