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Posted: 1/3/2018 11:45:02 PM EDT
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Thanks for the quick pics. Just as a word of warning, I recently read that Ruger does NOT recommend using Magpul Glock mags for this carbine. I noticed you had one in your pics, so beware that it might cause issues and you might want to test it with OEM mags, as well. I have had mine on order since Thursday with a local dealer, but who knows when it will arrive. Hopefully soon. :)
Edit: the info on the Magpul Glock mag compatability comes from: http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/02/gun-test-ruger-pc-carbine/ |
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Posted: 1/4/2018 12:03:04 AM EDT
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Thanks for the quick pics. Just as a word of warning, I recently read that Ruger does NOT recommend using Magpul Glock mags for this carbine. I noticed you had one in your pics, so beware that it might cause issues and you might want to test it with OEM mags, as well. I have had mine on order since Thursday with a local dealer, but who knows when it will arrive. Hopefully soon. :) Edit: the info on the Magpul Glock mag compatability comes from: http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/02/gun-test-ruger-pc-carbine/ |
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Posted: 1/4/2018 1:40:33 AM EDT
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Is the rear sight dovetailed into the barrel or the screwed in? |
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Posted: 1/4/2018 2:43:14 AM EDT
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I added some more pics to the above album. First disappointing observation. The front sling swivel is not far enough back to mount either a streamlight or a surefire x-300. It hits the swivel before the crossbar can get to the first slot. I love Ruger, this thing is genious and I want one....but that is a ridiculous screwup on their part. 
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Posted: 1/4/2018 2:53:43 AM EDT
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I added some more pics to the above album. First disappointing observation. The front sling swivel is not far enough back to mount either a streamlight or a surefire x-300. It hits the swivel before the crossbar can get to the first slot. |
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Posted: 1/4/2018 4:16:18 AM EDT
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Local shop lists them for $509. They are "out of stock" at the moment but will likely be getting them in as they are a rather large dealer and try to stay on top of trends. They are also big on Ruger.
The distributors have mentioned that these are selling out fast and will be in "high demand". This will go on for some time as it is, after all, a Ruger. While some here don't fancy Ruger a great many people do. Ruger will sell these as fast as they can make them. I am a big PCC fan but will I buy one of these? Good question. First thought is to jump on one. Second thought is , "wait and see". I'm old and cautious (i.e. gotten burned too many times on new guns that had problems) and will likely wait and see. My observations are simple: Its a Ruger, it will sell Its priced such that it will put a squeeze on some of the other guns out there, not everyone is ready to put $800-$1300 in a 9mm carbine. (why I don't already own a Scorpion) Not everyone wants yet another AR style firearm That mag well insert thing was a stroke of genius and it comes with it. Smart....very smart.... If is sells hotly the aftermarket will jump on it within the year. From its looks it has potential for companies to make a profit dressing it up. It will put a price squeeze on the PCC market. It will be a much better firearm than a Sub2k and won't be much more money than some are asking for those now. Prices on other guns will need to drop to stay competitive..(that's good for all of us). Heck, even High Points often sell for near $300, a little more would put you in a Ruger...ummm Good move using the 10/22 style trigger...very good move I wish they made a non-take down model that was a bit cheaper. If they did its likely someone would come up with a folder stock for it. I like folders much better....you can fire them while folded! Its a Ruger....maybe not slick, maybe not the prettiest or the lightest thing on the block....but it will work and will sell. Heck, it looks much better than a High Point (but that isn't saying much is it?) Maybe next year I will have one....if I can sell my now price depreciated Marlin Camp 9 
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Posted: 1/4/2018 9:48:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @ajacobs Is the rear sight dovetailed into the barrel or the screwed in? |
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Posted: 1/4/2018 10:06:46 AM EDT
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I might buy one once the hullabaloo dies down about it. No, wait. It is a Ruger. I might buy one once they have two product recalls under their belts. About every five years I give Ruger another chance and they never fail to disappoint. |
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Posted: 1/4/2018 10:23:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow I love Ruger, this thing is genious and I want one....but that is a ridiculous screwup on their part. |
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Posted: 1/4/2018 10:34:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was actually thinking of the design sling mounts the other day, wish they had gone with a set of QD sockets due to the ability of this to be taken down. |
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Posted: 1/4/2018 11:53:03 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/4/2018 12:03:45 PM EDT
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https://i.imgur.com/VAq0Wgn.jpg |
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Posted: 1/4/2018 12:24:08 PM EDT
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maybe an 1/8"
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Posted: 1/4/2018 1:02:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/4/2018 5:53:29 PM EDT
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I added some more pics to the above album. First disappointing observation. The front sling swivel is not far enough back to mount either a streamlight or a surefire x-300. It hits the swivel before the crossbar can get to the first slot. Can't believe they just give cardboard, I love the bags. |
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Posted: 1/4/2018 7:57:19 PM EDT
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My "10/22" take down is from tactical solutions so it didn't come with a bag. But if you go to the ruger store they appear to offering the exact same bag as option for this gun. although I was thinking of going with a roll-n-go bag.
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Posted: 1/5/2018 12:47:23 PM EDT
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Is the Glock magwell short enough to work with G26 magazines?
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Posted: 1/5/2018 8:02:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryLooks nice
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Posted: 1/6/2018 1:08:10 PM EDT
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That thing is hideous! Besides; what useful thing does it do that an AR in 9mm won’t? If you want a cheap 9mm platform something like a CZ is where to start. |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 1:55:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not break FCG pins left and right?
If you want a cheap 9mm platform something like a CZ is where to start. |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 2:15:14 PM EDT
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If you want a cheap 9mm platform something like a CZ is where to start. |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 3:54:09 PM EDT
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Looks like older gen Glock Mags can only release with the push button on the left. Too bad as I prefer the release to push on the Right and I have a lot of Gen 2 and 3 Mags.
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Posted: 1/6/2018 7:04:52 PM EDT
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My "10/22" take down is from tactical solutions so it didn't come with a bag. But if you go to the ruger store they appear to offering the exact same bag as option for this gun. although I was thinking of going with a roll-n-go bag. |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 7:47:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks, I see the bag on their site, but it's like $90. I only paid $279 for my 10-22... Nobody else pick one up yet? I am surprised after all the excitement. |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 7:58:43 PM EDT
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Is the Glock magwell short enough to work with G26 magazines? |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 7:59:53 PM EDT
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Looks like older gen Glock Mags can only release with the push button on the left. Too bad as I prefer the release to push on the Right and I have a lot of Gen 2 and 3 Mags |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 8:18:19 PM EDT
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As far bags go I have the copper basin bag for 10/22 takedown. I'm hoping the PC Carbine will fit. I'll have to check to see if 33 rounders will fit in any of the pouches.
https://shop.opticsplanet.com/copper-basin-takedown-compact-firearm-pack-discrete-firearm-storage.html?_iv_code=COB-GC-TCFP-CB-1022&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=plusbox-beta&gclid=CjwKCAiAhMLSBRBJEiwAlFrsTvDO8pd3Vmma2A4xkmrpovglATWQP4_FDQWvZrvIoE96bhc8Pbh4rBoCAGMQAvD_BwE |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 8:49:34 PM EDT
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Thats correct. If you want to use single cut mags, the release must be on the left (which is ideal for right handed shooters). Any further details on if Magpul Mags will work? |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 9:15:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I could cut a slot on my older mags. Any further details on if Magpul Mags will work? |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 10:19:54 PM EDT
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Nobody else pick one up yet? I am surprised after all the excitement. |
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Posted: 1/7/2018 12:14:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nobody else can find them... I have my name on a list at a near by LARGE dealer (80% of his business is internet ....you would know the name....it has KY in it). Problem is I suspect many others have their name on that list also. I suspect every dealer has a long waiting list and it will take time for Ruger to catch up. |
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Posted: 1/7/2018 2:33:19 PM EDT
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I ran it in minus 18 degrees today for another 100 rounds. While the trigger guard is far from glove friendly there was no problems. I ran with Magpul 15 and 21 rounders.
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Posted: 1/7/2018 3:20:52 PM EDT
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I know, I am not a huge fan either. Especially since I am not sure of the quality. |
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Posted: 1/7/2018 3:50:39 PM EDT
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One came with my 10-22 takedown, and it seems to be pretty good quality. But, it's brown since I got a mica-whatever model, and I'd prefer a black bag for the PC9, but certainly don't want to pay $90 for a $400 gun... Not that it matters, need to get a couple RAR's before the PC9 anyway. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know, I am not a huge fan either. Especially since I am not sure of the quality. |
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Posted: 1/7/2018 4:07:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lots of people looking...they must have been snatched up fast. Every buyer isn't a member here so don't be surprised. While the AR market is down, they can be had very cheap now, the market for this rifle is HOT. Don't think Ruger isn't happy to see this one hit the market. They will crank up production if this continues. I have my name on a list at a near by LARGE dealer (80% of his business is internet ....you would know the name....it has KY in it). Problem is I suspect many others have their name on that list also. I suspect every dealer has a long waiting list and it will take time for Ruger to catch up. |
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Posted: 1/7/2018 8:12:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: $90 is the least of my concerns...I think I'll end up spending a lot of money gear-queering this thing up (optic, suppressor, maybe SBR it, light, new stock, etc). |
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Posted: 1/7/2018 9:20:54 PM EDT
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Really excited about this - but I'm going to wait for a non-takedown version.
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Posted: 1/7/2018 9:43:10 PM EDT
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I have mine on pre-order with a one man shop who deals almost exclusively in rugers, as in "Has dinner with the CEO at SHOT" level of ruger dealings.
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Posted: 1/7/2018 9:43:54 PM EDT
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Really excited about this - but I'm going to wait for a non-takedown version. |
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Posted: 1/7/2018 11:20:09 PM EDT
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I have mine on pre-order with a one man shop who deals almost exclusively in rugers, as in "Has dinner with the CEO at SHOT" level of ruger dealings. |
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Posted: 1/8/2018 1:19:35 AM EDT
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I doubt they would undercut themselves by making one. |
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Posted: 1/8/2018 8:48:08 AM EDT
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Couldn't the same argument be made about the 10/22? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I doubt they would undercut themselves by making one. |
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Posted: 1/8/2018 8:58:06 AM EDT
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If anything, someone else might make a receiver w/ a fixed bbl, that will drop into a Ruger stock & take all Ruger parts, if Ruger doesn't do it. That receiver looks dead simple other than the locking lugs for the bbl. Rather than a screw in bbl, someone might make a receiver that takes AR-9 bbls, & thus AR forends.
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Posted: 1/8/2018 9:05:24 AM EDT
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Then why hasn't he gotten one yet? |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 12:36:12 PM EDT
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Want.  Attached FileI shot over 300 rounds through it the day I got it, all suppressed with my TM Isis-2 9mm can. No problems excluding a few failures to feed with Winchester USA Forged 9mm, which I had not used before but I have not heard anything good about. I was a bit worried that the left side charging slot would puke a lot of gas while shooting suppressed, but that was not the case. Looking at how it functions, the bolt does not travel far enough for the bolt face to get into the charging slots, basically keeps the charging slots closed. It is everything I was expecting it to be and a bit more. The trigger is BX-Trigger quality, so this is one of the nicest out of the box PCC triggers I have ever personally tried. |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 12:48:40 PM EDT
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Someone needs to post a picture of one with a G18 magazine
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Posted: 1/10/2018 12:50:34 PM EDT
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I got mine. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/120201/ruger-pcc9mm-right-416349.JPG I shot over 300 rounds through it the day I got it, all suppressed with my TM Isis-2 9mm can. No problems excluding a few failures to feed with Winchester USA Forged 9mm, which I had not used before but I have not heard anything good about. I was a bit worried that the left side charging slot would puke a lot of gas while shooting suppressed, but that was not the case. Looking at how it functions, the bolt does not travel far enough for the bolt face to get into the charging slots, basically keeps the charging slots closed. It is everything I was expecting it to be and a bit more. The trigger is BX-Trigger quality, so this is one of the nicest out of the box PCC triggers I have ever personally tried. |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 1:38:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How does the Deadblow affect the recoil on it? I am happy the bolt assembly with its tungsten weight is 20.65 ounces. Too many 9mm blow backs have bolts that are too light, like my MPA 30DMG which is something like 15 ounces. Even with a barrel 3.2x longer the (16" vs 5") suppressor gas blow back was negligible on the Ruger PCC-9. Recoil is also noticeably less on the PCC-9 vs the 30DMG, I think this is because of the reduced bolt velocity do to the much greater bolt mass. The conventional rifle lay out of the PCC-9 helps as well. Not that the 30DMG has brutal recoil or anything.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 1:57:34 PM EDT
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Not too surprising that as a 6lb+ 9mm carbine the PCC-9 does not have much in the way of recoil. I am happy the bolt assembly with its tungsten weight is 20.65 ounces. Too many 9mm blow backs have bolts that are too light, like my MPA 30DMG which is something like 15 ounces. Even with a barrel 3.2x longer the (16" vs 5") suppressor gas blow back was negligible on the Ruger PCC-9. Recoil is also noticeably less on the PCC-9 vs the 30DMG, I think this is because of the reduced bolt velocity do to the much greater bolt mass. The conventional rifle lay out of the PCC-9 helps as well. Not that the 30DMG has brutal recoil or anything. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/120201/mpa30dmg_rs-416403.JPG |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 2:18:43 PM EDT
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On mine, I noticed that the initial phase of recoil with the bullet firing is basically the same as other blowbacks. The 2nd phase where the bolt reaches it reward most position is deadened some by the deadblow effect, normally you would get a little muzzle rise at that time(in a conventionally stocked firearm), but given the power of a 9mm and weight of the rifle this really isn't an issue. The most improved part for me is in the 3rd phase of recoil where the bolt slams home and normally you would get muzzle dip. It can be significant with guns like the scorpion with its heavy heavy bolt. For me the deadblow seems to have improved that, when I fire it and compare it to my PC9.
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