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Posted: 3/28/2018 8:46:33 PM EDT
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Any cheap mags available? I have a looming mag ban in my state
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Posted: 3/29/2018 8:55:38 AM EDT
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I've not found cheap mags ever for these. I've found mags, but expect to pay $50 each. If you have a C&R FFL, Brownells will consider you a "dealer" and you can get dealer pricing, which for me was like $48. watch for coupons like $10 off $100 and stack with something like ebates or Active Junky and that should get your cost per mag down. But cheap? nope.
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Posted: 3/29/2018 4:30:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: razARback]
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Posted: 3/29/2018 5:17:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/29/2018 8:32:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goloud:
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2018 9:15:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnLWare:
Form 1’ers: Did you have your APC9 engraved here? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284972/2AD40588-D206-4ECC-8156-F892B0338A04-498109.JPG |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/30/2018 8:19:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BS68280:
That’s where mine is going. Scott over at THSF said that’s where a lot of guys do those. Makes sense it’s the same place B&T did it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BS68280:
Originally Posted By JohnLWare:
Form 1’ers: Did you have your APC9 engraved here? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284972/2AD40588-D206-4ECC-8156-F892B0338A04-498109.JPG |
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Posted: 3/30/2018 8:24:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 59chevy: That’s where I did mine. And THSF did a good job also. |
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Posted: 4/3/2018 7:44:01 AM EDT
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Silly Question:
What's the charging effort like on the APC9? I have a bad shoulder and had a Zenith Z5p and the charging effort was enough that my shoulder would ache after a range session. I did pick up a PTR 9C yesterday and that was worlds easier than the Z5p I had, which could've been a bad model, hell my wife couldn't even charge the bolt and that's using the brace for leverage. I have yet to find an APC9 locally to try out. Thanks, |
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Posted: 4/3/2018 9:08:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hulley:
Silly Question: What's the charging effort like on the APC9? I have a bad shoulder and had a Zenith Z5p and the charging effort was enough that my shoulder would ache after a range session. I did pick up a PTR 9C yesterday and that was worlds easier than the Z5p I had, which could've been a bad model, hell my wife couldn't even charge the bolt and that's using the brace for leverage. I have yet to find an APC9 locally to try out. Thanks, |
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Posted: 4/3/2018 10:43:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: I've never tried charging any of the weapons stated so I can't really compare it, but the APC9 isn't that heavy until you hit the buffer at the back of the pull. I would say that up until that point it's lighter than an AR, but once you hit the buffer its heavier, but its only for 1/2 an inch or so. The bolt has to be pulled back pretty much all the way to engage the bolt lock, but I don't think it has to go back all the way to successfully chamber a round. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/3/2018 5:21:20 PM EDT
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yep, you can chamber a round with little effort. locking the bolt back requires a bit of effort but unlike the zenith, the bolt is open after the last round so it shouldnt matter.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/3/2018 9:21:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hulley:
Silly Question: What's the charging effort like on the APC9? I have a bad shoulder and had a Zenith Z5p and the charging effort was enough that my shoulder would ache after a range session. I did pick up a PTR 9C yesterday and that was worlds easier than the Z5p I had, which could've been a bad model, hell my wife couldn't even charge the bolt and that's using the brace for leverage. I have yet to find an APC9 locally to try out. Thanks, |
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Posted: 4/3/2018 9:25:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By humahuma:
yep, you can chamber a round with little effort. locking the bolt back requires a bit of effort but unlike the zenith, the bolt is open after the last round so it shouldnt matter. |
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Posted: 4/3/2018 9:27:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trpclfvr: keep in mind the Z5P is a roller lock system. those have a certain force needed to get the rollers unlocked. The APC9 is a simple blow back, no locking feature. |
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Posted: 4/3/2018 10:36:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hulley:
Thank you, yeah that would definitely be good, plus I think the APC has ambi charging, right? My left shoulder is the bad one. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hulley:
Originally Posted By humahuma:
yep, you can chamber a round with little effort. locking the bolt back requires a bit of effort but unlike the zenith, the bolt is open after the last round so it shouldnt matter. |
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Posted: 4/4/2018 7:41:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: It can be configured to either side with ease. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/4/2018 2:34:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trpclfvr:
keep in mind the Z5P is a roller lock system. those have a certain force needed to get the rollers unlocked. The APC9 is a simple blow back, no locking feature. |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 10:37:16 PM EDT
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Tax stamp Tuesday. 178 days from check cashed (10/30/17) - filed individual.
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Posted: 5/1/2018 11:04:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnLWare:
Tax stamp Tuesday. 178 days from check cashed (10/30/17) - filed individual. https://s18.postimg.cc/swyptoljd/02_C9_E940-_FF8_C-432_F-94_F9-9768_FB1_A41_D5.jpg |
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Posted: 5/3/2018 7:54:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnLWare:
Tax stamp Tuesday. 178 days from check cashed (10/30/17) - filed individual. https://s18.postimg.cc/swyptoljd/02_C9_E940-_FF8_C-432_F-94_F9-9768_FB1_A41_D5.jpg |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2018 9:57:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: UsubM]
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Just picked up my APC9 and put a brace on it. No plans to SBR it just because the brace is so substantial by itself. I would like to invest in a new sight for it though. I have the Eotech laying around and decided to throw it on for now.
hopefully I'll get the chance to shoot it tomorrow... 
20180504-IMG_8672-Canon EOS 6D-70 mm 
20180504-IMG_8679-Canon EOS 6D-70 mm |
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Posted: 5/7/2018 3:41:17 PM EDT
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Finally had the chance to bring my replacement APC9 drum from F5 to the range today. Worked great for the first 100 rounds. The first 50 were 124gr PMC, followed by 50 rounds of Federal 115gr target ammo. After this I switched to S&B 115gr and had feeding issues with every round. For some reason they would not feed properly, I don't know why. Same bullet profile as the 115gr Federal that I was using. I decided to unload the drum after 4 consecutive feed failures, and then filled it back up with 50 rounds of 115gr Federal target ammo. It then ran great, no issues at all.
I decided to try the S&B in a B&T stick mag, all 30 ran fine so it had to have been an issue with that particular ammo in the F5 drum. I had ~10 rounds of the S&B left and decided to put them in the F5 drum. This time they all ran great, but when I removed the mag the follower fell out again  Same type of failure that I had with the first drum, only this time it happened after 160 rounds instead of 100 
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Posted: 5/7/2018 4:07:22 PM EDT
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On a happier note, I bought my first suppressor this weekend. A Rugged Obsidian 45, can't wait for it to reach my dealer so I can play with it while I wait for my stamp.
Does anyone here run their APC 9 suppressed? How is it? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2018 8:03:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117:
On a happier note, I bought my first suppressor this weekend. A Rugged Obsidian 45, can't wait for it to reach my dealer so I can play with it while I wait for my stamp. Does anyone here run their APC 9 suppressed? How is it? 
APC9-Z211 by TX 556Mav, on Flickr It runs great suppressed. It's one of my favorite suppressor hosts. |
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Posted: 5/7/2018 10:53:26 PM EDT
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F5 manufacturing emailed me back, they are going to issue me a refund for now and go back to the drawing board on the follower. I'll say I've been very pleased with their customer service during this debacle.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 59chevy:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4464/37603476320_6a97f63331_b.jpg APC9-Z211 by TX 556Mav, on Flickr It runs great suppressed. It's one of my favorite suppressor hosts. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 59chevy:
Originally Posted By DCV_117:
On a happier note, I bought my first suppressor this weekend. A Rugged Obsidian 45, can't wait for it to reach my dealer so I can play with it while I wait for my stamp. Does anyone here run their APC 9 suppressed? How is it? APC9-Z211 by TX 556Mav, on Flickr It runs great suppressed. It's one of my favorite suppressor hosts. 
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USA
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Posted: 5/8/2018 8:30:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117:
On a happier note, I bought my first suppressor this weekend. A Rugged Obsidian 45, can't wait for it to reach my dealer so I can play with it while I wait for my stamp. Does anyone here run their APC 9 suppressed? How is it? |
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Posted: 5/8/2018 10:44:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By roughrider94:
They run amazing suppressed. The APC series guns seem to all have gas vent out points to accommodate for suppressor use. There's no gas to the shooter's face from what I've encountered. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By roughrider94:
Originally Posted By DCV_117:
On a happier note, I bought my first suppressor this weekend. A Rugged Obsidian 45, can't wait for it to reach my dealer so I can play with it while I wait for my stamp. Does anyone here run their APC 9 suppressed? How is it? |
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Posted: 5/8/2018 5:10:02 PM EDT
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Getting ready to pull the trigger on the obsidian 9 since I cant figure out a way to run an Osprey on mine. Crazy that the 3 lug mount wont work with the osprey, even if it wouldnt "time" right, but this is what SiCo told me.
hoping to get mine out again soon, it is stupid fun to shoot and i think my very well be my favorite "big pistol". |
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Posted: 5/8/2018 8:24:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By branflake12:
Getting ready to pull the trigger on the obsidian 9 since I cant figure out a way to run an Osprey on mine. Crazy that the 3 lug mount wont work with the osprey, even if it wouldnt "time" right, but this is what SiCo told me. hoping to get mine out again soon, it is stupid fun to shoot and i think my very well be my favorite "big pistol". I figured you couldn't run an Osprey on there because there is no 3 lug adapter for the Osprey. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2018 8:53:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117:
On a happier note, I bought my first suppressor this weekend. A Rugged Obsidian 45, can't wait for it to reach my dealer so I can play with it while I wait for my stamp. Does anyone here run their APC 9 suppressed? How is it? 
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WA, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2018 4:23:05 PM EDT
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Just sent in my form 1 paperwork for the apc9, now the long wait begins....
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2018 5:00:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By branflake12:
Getting ready to pull the trigger on the obsidian 9 since I cant figure out a way to run an Osprey on mine. Crazy that the 3 lug mount wont work with the osprey, even if it wouldnt "time" right, but this is what SiCo told me. hoping to get mine out again soon, it is stupid fun to shoot and i think my very well be my favorite "big pistol". 
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:19:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: What do you mean by "time right"? I figured you couldn't run an Osprey on there because there is no 3 lug adapter for the Osprey. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:21:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rebel556: I have the Octane, Osprey @ Omega 9K.. I definitely tried to fit my 3 lug mounts on the Osprey. I can confirm it won’t work/fit.. oh well. Reason to order a new can.. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/25/2018 2:27:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eternal24k:
Any cheap mags available? I have a looming mag ban in my state |
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Posted: 5/31/2018 7:23:20 PM EDT
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Move quickly. A small number of mags available HERE for $44.99
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/31/2018 8:04:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yamadog35:
Move quickly. A small number of mags available HERE for $44.99 |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/31/2018 9:20:22 PM EDT
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https://www.manventureoutpost.com/products/B%26T-Magazine%2C-9MM%2C-30Rd%2C-Fits-TP9%7B47%7DAPC9%2C-Clear-Finish-BT%252d30183.html
3 left and use the code MVOSummer for 5% off Brings it down to $35 before shipping |
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USA
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Posted: 5/31/2018 9:36:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Cornelius_]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yamadog35:
Move quickly. A small number of mags available HERE for $44.99 My APC9 is on its way to my local dealer and I'd like to get one of the Aimpoint TLs with the B&T mount but everyone seems to be sold out and most dealers say they'll only sell them to people who also bought an APC from them. Any chance of getting one or should I just get a low mount (leaning towards a Spuhr SM-1900) for my T-1? Also, I can't seem to find the magazine loader anywhere but I think I read that B&T was possibly redesigning it, anyone know if that's the case? |
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Posted: 6/1/2018 7:53:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/1/2018 9:25:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goloud:
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Posted: 6/1/2018 9:36:52 PM EDT
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goloud, don't leave us hanging, any footage?
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Posted: 6/1/2018 10:05:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bestiller:
goloud, don't leave us hanging, any footage? |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:40:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: razARback]
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What subs are you guys running? I shot some 147gr Lawman this morning (with the Wolf-9SD in long config) and it sounded like I was getting some crack downrange.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/2/2018 6:44:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnLWare:
What subs are you guys running? I shot some 147gr Lawman this morning (with the Wolf-9SD in long config) and it sounded like I was getting some crack downrange. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/3/2018 3:41:55 PM EDT
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Another trip to the range and I’m more impressed with the APC than I was before. Nothing like ringing steel with a 9mm at 200yds. Free hand it’s honestly easier to do with the APC than the AR because it’s so damn light.
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UT, USA
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Posted: 6/3/2018 6:00:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnLWare:
What subs are you guys running? I shot some 147gr Lawman this morning (with the Wolf-9SD in long config) and it sounded like I was getting some crack downrange. |
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Posted: 6/3/2018 8:53:41 PM EDT
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I didn't think it was possible for me to love this gun anymore, but then I threw a Obsidian 45 on it
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Posted: 6/4/2018 8:30:57 AM EDT
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Before I buy a case of it, how does the APC9 shoot with flat nose ammo? I don't a case of ammo if it won't feed properly.
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