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Posted: 1/15/2020 5:40:14 PM EDT
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I like your idea and while we are at it we can also make it in a slightly larger frame for 308/7.62x51! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A 5.56 lever gun that feeds from a 20 or 30 round internal box magazine fed from stripper clips would be pretty handy in places where laws are full retard. Threaded for a can too since no action cycling would make it nice and quiet. |
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Posted: 1/15/2020 6:02:32 PM EDT
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I'll be honest, I definitely want a .357 lever but everytime I look, I feel they are expensive vs other firearms.
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Posted: 1/15/2020 6:13:23 PM EDT
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Rem 760 in .270, .308, .30-06?? I see 10 round magazines for them every now and then.
I've only shot one. A .270. It really surprised me how accurate it was. |
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Posted: 1/15/2020 8:58:01 PM EDT
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I guess most of us have heard the saying that a lever action was the "first assault rifle." I was thinking about the knee jerk reactions in New Zealand and thought if automatic weapons were no longer available. For the sake of discussion assume that tomorrow every semi automatic rifle did not exist so what would we turn to? Pump shotguns or bring out grandpa's 30-30? I like my pump guns but also like the idea of a 200 to possibly 300 yard capable cartridge and rifle. Bottom line, I'm leaning toward either a 94 or 336 with the Marlin being scoped with a true 1x4 illuminated reticle and the 94 with a full aperture ghost ring sight. What do you think about the LEVERevolution load for distance and plenty of 150 or 170 for general purpose? I like how you can load additional loose rounds as you may need them. I would consider adding a 357 to the cabinet if they are as dependable feeding enough to "bet your life on?" I like the increased capacity but fear reliability due to rim's. Yes I know the 30-30 is a rimmed cartridge but never heard of feeding reliability issues. Thoughts? |
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Posted: 1/15/2020 10:28:20 PM EDT
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Watch some of the Lucas McCain instructional videos to see what a Winchester 1892 in .44 is capable of ! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I guess most of us have heard the saying that a lever action was the "first assault rifle." I was thinking about the knee jerk reactions in New Zealand and thought if automatic weapons were no longer available. For the sake of discussion assume that tomorrow every semi automatic rifle did not exist so what would we turn to? Pump shotguns or bring out grandpa's 30-30? I like my pump guns but also like the idea of a 200 to possibly 300 yard capable cartridge and rifle. Bottom line, I'm leaning toward either a 94 or 336 with the Marlin being scoped with a true 1x4 illuminated reticle and the 94 with a full aperture ghost ring sight. What do you think about the LEVERevolution load for distance and plenty of 150 or 170 for general purpose? I like how you can load additional loose rounds as you may need them. I would consider adding a 357 to the cabinet if they are as dependable feeding enough to "bet your life on?" I like the increased capacity but fear reliability due to rim's. Yes I know the 30-30 is a rimmed cartridge but never heard of feeding reliability issues. Thoughts? |
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Posted: 1/16/2020 2:43:03 PM EDT
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The 5.56 AR platform isn't ideal for a HD weapon in my view even though I have both an AR carbine and rifle. It's big, bulky receiver and large blast and flash don't recommend it to many who've actually shot it indoors at night without hearing protection. With defensive ranges in the 25 to 30 feet range at most, the .223/5.56 comes in a distant 3rd in my high velocity carbine performance in addition to being much larger and less user friendly to employ.
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Posted: 1/17/2020 12:43:32 AM EDT
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Minor Technical Correction -
Energy is given in units of ft-lb (foot-pounds) not ft/lb (foot per pound). |
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Posted: 1/18/2020 7:25:33 PM EDT
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You guys might want to read up on Jim Cirillo's use of the M1 Carbine in the NY Stakeout Squad.
With proper ammo it is a great HD weapon. And a 357 lever is about the same. Even Karl from INRANGE has stated numerous times he'd take a lever action in 357 as an "alternate" if he couldn't have an AR. |
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Posted: 1/18/2020 9:35:35 PM EDT
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You guys might want to read up on Jim Cirillo's use of the M1 Carbine in the NY Stakeout Squad. With proper ammo it is a great HD weapon. And a 357 lever is about the same. Even Karl from INRANGE has stated numerous times he'd take a lever action in 357 as an "alternate" if he couldn't have an AR.  The Guns of 1873 - Winchester and SAA - On The Clock |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 4:36:02 PM EDT
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 Marlin 336 XLR | Custom Tactical Levergun |
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Posted: 1/31/2020 11:15:41 AM EDT
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I’m in a ban state. I can use semi autos...for now. No cans and nothing over 10 rounds. IIRC, the magazine ban specifically excludes tubular magazines (lever action rifles). |
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Posted: 1/31/2020 4:32:12 PM EDT
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I guess most of us have heard the saying that a lever action was the "first assault rifle." I was thinking about the knee jerk reactions in New Zealand and thought if automatic weapons were no longer available. For the sake of discussion assume that tomorrow every semi automatic rifle did not exist so what would we turn to? Pump shotguns or bring out grandpa's 30-30? I like my pump guns but also like the idea of a 200 to possibly 300 yard capable cartridge and rifle. Bottom line, I'm leaning toward either a 94 or 336 with the Marlin being scoped with a true 1x4 illuminated reticle and the 94 with a full aperture ghost ring sight. What do you think about the LEVERevolution load for distance and plenty of 150 or 170 for general purpose? I like how you can load additional loose rounds as you may need them. I would consider adding a 357 to the cabinet if they are as dependable feeding enough to "bet your life on?" I like the increased capacity but fear reliability due to rim's. Yes I know the 30-30 is a rimmed cartridge but never heard of feeding reliability issues. Thoughts? |
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Posted: 1/31/2020 8:33:46 PM EDT
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If you change out the ejector spring (to a lighter one) on a Rossi R92 it will help eliminate the feeding issues.
With the factory spring the ejector acts as a solid mass and will not give in order for the feed geometry to be flexible enough for different COAL. |
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Posted: 2/2/2020 4:52:34 PM EDT
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when they outlaw your firearm of choice...
shouldn't you be using it on those who just made you an outlaw? but, I would seriously look into a .357 platform rifle, just on capacity alone. a 357 out of a rifle is surprising. |
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Posted: 2/4/2020 11:53:25 AM EDT
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I have a few pistol caliber lever guns and they would definitely work for home defense.
I feel like I’d be more confident with my 16in Winchester .44 than a 18in barreled shotgun. 00 buck may be a better load but that 16in.carbine is very compact and quick on target. The same rifle in .357 would be a great choice and faster on follow ups. It’s a shame the ranch hands are gone. One of those with some sort of brace adapter would be perfect. Damn ugly but near perfect utility wise in the lever gun class. Make it in 10mm in a Rossi for $500-600 and watch it sell. |
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Posted: 2/19/2020 2:29:28 AM EDT
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back in olden times, 1995, a lever action was considered a completely viable long arm for defense. Plenty of Texas Lawmen were still equipped with one back then.
In the real world, if you resort to long arms, a few rounds is all it takes to resolve 99% of gunfights. You get hit with a soft point 30-30, you are seriously screwed. |
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Posted: 2/26/2020 5:40:07 PM EDT
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Use a 44/.410 speed strip for 30-30 shells, If I remember right that is the right diameter Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This might belong in its own separate thread, but how about ammo carriers for leverguns? I know there are loads of elastic or leather deals that carry a bunch of rounds in a row all oriented vertically; is there anything else that might be quicker? Revolvers have speedloaders, shotguns have speed tubes and those double/quad belt caddies that let you pull them out in twos straight out instead of sliding them up out of a sleeve. Anything more efficient for lever-action? 
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Posted: 2/26/2020 8:43:55 PM EDT
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I just saw this and happened to have both a .44 speed strip and a box of .30-30 within arms reach and had to check. Learn something new every day.
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This might belong in its own separate thread, but how about ammo carriers for leverguns? I know there are loads of elastic or leather deals that carry a bunch of rounds in a row all oriented vertically; is there anything else that might be quicker? Revolvers have speedloaders, shotguns have speed tubes and those double/quad belt caddies that let you pull them out in twos straight out instead of sliding them up out of a sleeve. Anything more efficient for lever-action?
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/389898/DA19BFD8-FAD9-4EA5-96A6-C7A31B0AD4F1_jpe-1292355.JPG 
I found my .44 speedstrip, don't own a 44, and it is a 44/45 Colt one. Little loose but secure. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 2:18:20 PM EDT
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Im late to the game, but theres nothing wrong (or weak) about a lever action for a defensive weapon.
A downloaded 45-70 with the right projectile would put a serious hurt on someone. Im working on a pet home defense load with a 300 gr tsx.. wouldnt want to get hit with that at close range. A full out 45-70 load would do unbelievable damage. You have tons of other options too. 44 mag from a 16" rossi? Bad news again. 357 mag? Never heard about that not hurting... 30-30? Been killing shit for over a century.. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 2:19:42 PM EDT
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You might want to check your math. That .30 carbine at 2100 FPS is only producing 1077 ft lbs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The 5.56 AR platform isn't ideal for a HD weapon in my view even though I have both an AR carbine and rifle. It's big, bulky receiver and large blast and flash don't recommend it to many who've actually shot it indoors at night without hearing protection. With defensive ranges in the 25 to 30 feet range at most, the .223/5.56 comes in a distant 3rd in my high velocity carbine performance in addition to being much larger and less user friendly to employ.
Oof. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 7:24:45 PM EDT
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Im late to the game, but theres nothing wrong (or weak) about a lever action for a defensive weapon. A downloaded 45-70 with the right projectile would put a serious hurt on someone. Im working on a pet home defense load with a 300 gr tsx.. wouldnt want to get hit with that at close range. A full out 45-70 load would do unbelievable damage. You have tons of other options too. 44 mag from a 16" rossi? Bad news again. 357 mag? Never heard about that not hurting... 30-30? Been killing shit for over a century.. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 7:36:45 PM EDT
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I've run my 30-30 in a weekly league. Runs that typically tak under 30 sec lasted over a minute. Shoot and stroke is fast but reloads are slow like a shotgun.
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Posted: 2/28/2020 7:38:14 PM EDT
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Given the choice, a .357 lever or a .30-30?
.357 can share ammo with a pistol, better followup shots, cheaper range ammo, more capacity .30-30 hits significantly harder and is far more common, in my area at least |
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Posted: 2/29/2020 9:05:44 AM EDT
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How many rounds do you carry for your AR? How many would you carry for a lever action?
How many rounds do you shoot when training with the AR? How many would you shoot with a lever action? Several years ago we had a guy show up for an Appleseed weekend with his dad's (or grandpa's??) Winchester .30-30. Didn't last through Saturday morning - when the rate of fire is much less than later in the weekend. That's the sighting in, beginning to learn sling use, fundamentals of aiming, trigger pull, etc., etc., etc. Accuracy went away as the barrel heated up or maybe as it kicked him into submission? He burned his fingers on the barrel a couple times. Not blistered, but burned enough to make tender spots that bothered him more and more as he continued to shoot it. He eventually took it off the line and went to a different rifle for the rest of the day. If you believe you can use a lever action then do some fast/sustained shooting with it, like you would your AR15 and see how it works out. Or, take it to an Appleseed for a 250 to 300 round day for a couple days. |
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Posted: 2/29/2020 9:50:15 AM EDT
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Civilian defensive use is not analogous to the military style, high rate of fire they teach at an Appleseed.
I shot one a few years ago and got my patch on the first go. While the basic instruction is very good, the course of fire felt like we were defending Pork Chop Hill from the advancing commie hordes............
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Posted: 2/29/2020 11:46:53 AM EDT
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Given the choice, a .357 lever or a .30-30? .357 can share ammo with a pistol, better followup shots, cheaper range ammo, more capacity .30-30 hits significantly harder and is far more common, in my area at least |
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Posted: 2/29/2020 12:12:32 PM EDT
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Has anybody ever tried reloading a loading-gate levergun using a technique similar to double/quad loading a shotgun in competition? I don't have a levergun to try it with right now, but it seems like it might go a long way to making it more viable as a fighting option IF it works mechanically… Also, the Henry rifles with removable mag tubes can be loaded with a speed loader type tube. And something like the xrail might be adaptable: https://www.ammoland.com/2011/02/xrail-systems-available-at-brownells-com/ |
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Posted: 2/29/2020 12:14:48 PM EDT
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This might belong in its own separate thread, but how about ammo carriers for leverguns? I know there are loads of elastic or leather deals that carry a bunch of rounds in a row all oriented vertically; is there anything else that might be quicker? Revolvers have speedloaders, shotguns have speed tubes and those double/quad belt caddies that let you pull them out in twos straight out instead of sliding them up out of a sleeve. Anything more efficient for lever-action? It doesn't rely on the Henry-style removable mag tube. |
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Posted: 2/29/2020 12:23:30 PM EDT
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Given the choice, a .357 lever or a .30-30? .357 can share ammo with a pistol, better followup shots, cheaper range ammo, more capacity .30-30 hits significantly harder and is far more common, in my area at least Quote HistoryQuoted:
Given the choice, a .357 lever or a .30-30? .357 can share ammo with a pistol, better followup shots, cheaper range ammo, more capacity .30-30 hits significantly harder and is far more common, in my area at least –I already had a .30-30 –I already had a .357 handgun to share ammo –I already had a huge pile of .357 ammo –I could not acquire .30-30 ammo but could get .357 Otherwise, I would (and did) get the .30-30; an actual rifle is far more useful than a rifle-length, lever-action PCC. Quoted:
I had that notion but didn't pursue it. My 336's loading gate hangs up a little on the rim of the cartridge in the magazine so I have to press it straight in to get the next round started. Look to the cowboy action guys if you want to see 3-gun level speed with a lever gun. I expect they've developed techniques to tune the loading gates and run them as fast as possible. Also, the Henry rifles with removable mag tubes can be loaded with a speed loader type tube. And something like the xrail might be adaptable: https://www.ammoland.com/2011/02/xrail-systems-available-at-brownells-com/ |
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Posted: 2/29/2020 6:45:45 PM EDT
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I think the lever gun is a perfectly viable option as a defensive weapon. The home defense weapon of choice up at my mountain house is an 1894 loaded with 158 grain JHP.
Will be more than adequate for 2 and 4-legged vermin. Enough distance and space that over penetration isn't a concern. Am I going to try and a conquer a nation with one? No. |
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Posted: 3/1/2020 4:13:09 PM EDT
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I have a Rossi Model 1892 short rifle (20") and Rossi Model 92 rifle (24"). With a Marbles tang sight and Lyman 17AHB front sight they'll both shoot 2 MOA 5 shot groups at 100 yards with Federal 158 gr JSP. The velocity with those loads is 1820 fps. With a 150 yd zero it's a maximum of 3 3/4" high at 85 yards and 4" low at 175 yards. At 150 yards it still has 1350 fps and 640 ft pounds - basically 4" .357 Mag revolver performance at the muzzle. I also have 2 Rossi .357 Mags, a 20" carbine and a 24" rifle outfitted with a tang and globe sight set too. I handload for them using Zero 158grn JSP bullets. With H110, I get the same velocity as DakotaFAL, 1,822fps with just under 2 MOA accuracy as well. I use my 24" rifle with it's Marbles target rear aperture and Lyman globe front to shoot at steel plates at 300yds and if it's not windy, an 8" plate is quite doable even though I'm shooting a pistol bullet. Bowling pins are quite doable at 200yds and they are much less than a 2 MOA wide target save for about 1½" at their widest where they are just over 2 MOA wide. With it's 30" sight radius vs the 16" sight radius of a 20" carbine with standard sights, it's not hard to see why accurate longer range shooting with one is not that hard to do. Further, about a 1½ ago, I started using Lil'Gun powder as it produces a much lower peak pressure than does H110 so that my brass would last a bit longer. Full power .357 Mag loads are notorious for being hard on brass so I was looking for something a bit easier on them as well as my rifles. I was expecting to get a bit lower velocities, however, to my surprise, I found that Lil'Gun produced significantly higher velocities in long barreled firearms when using the same components as with my H110 loads, at the same range, at the same temperature, with the same chrono! How significant? 10% higher velocities (H110 = 1,822fps vs Lil'Gun = 2,005fps) and noticeably less abuse of my brass. Accuracy was just as good as well and with a faster, flatter trajectory, shooting out to 200 and 300yds is actually easier. I also have a Mossberg 464 30-30 and it's accurate for a 30-30 levergun but with it's lower capacity of only 6+1rds vs my Rossi rifle's capacity of 14+1, heavier recoil, and less accuracy potential at longer ranges (it's also got only a 16" sight radius), it's not as good of a choice as my 24" rifle or even my 20" Rossi carbine with it's 11+1 capacity. |
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Posted: 3/1/2020 4:21:20 PM EDT
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You might want to check your math. That .30 carbine at 2100 FPS is only producing 1077 ft lbs. |
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Posted: 3/1/2020 4:22:34 PM EDT
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Being sort of a levergun fanatic I have a choice of calibers from .22 short to 45/70. My preferred caliber is 45/70. If I shoot someone I want to shoot them with a round designed to kill horses. Horses are a lot bigger than men.
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Posted: 3/1/2020 4:37:53 PM EDT
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I like your idea and while we are at it we can also make it in a slightly larger frame for 308/7.62x51! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A 5.56 lever gun that feeds from a 20 or 30 round internal box magazine fed from stripper clips would be pretty handy in places where laws are full retard. Threaded for a can too since no action cycling would make it nice and quiet. |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 9:34:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like your idea and while we are at it we can also make it in a slightly larger frame for 308/7.62x51! |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 5:09:51 PM EDT
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Here are some pics of 2 bullets. A 140gr xtp loaded over 9gr unique. One fired from a 2.75" m66 the other from a 20" M92.
The more expanded one is from the rifle. Both shot into water.  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 7:31:38 PM EDT
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I really like 357 out of a rifle.
I have done some plinking on steel at 200 yards and it was pretty easy to get hits with irons. |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 8:45:24 PM EDT
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Just in case anyone was curious an M1 cartridge belt will hold 20 speedstrips. The clip separators work perfectly as well.
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Posted: 3/24/2020 5:49:21 PM EDT
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While doing mag dumps with my AR is fun, in any realistic HD scenario, I would not be under gunned with my 1892 and LeveRevolution ammo. The longest shot from my house to the wood line is 80'. I routinely drop deer with one shot at 100', so range is not an issue. Since the 3rd Soviet Shock Army is not likely to attack my home, I'd be happy grabbing the AR or 1892. With either, I prefer aimed shots to spray and pray so I don't see a need for breaking out the spare mags of 5.56.
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Posted: 3/24/2020 6:06:38 PM EDT
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I feel confident with this if it came to it. Good old Winchester 30-30, who knows how many deer dad took with it. I put the red dot and cheek riser on when I got it, and yes I still have the deer head leather sling he used.
 
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Posted: 3/24/2020 7:14:17 PM EDT
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Quoted: I guess most of us have heard the saying that a lever action was the "first assault rifle." I was thinking about the knee jerk reactions in New Zealand and thought if automatic weapons were no longer available. For the sake of discussion assume that tomorrow every semi automatic rifle did not exist so what would we turn to? Pump shotguns or bring out grandpa's 30-30? I like my pump guns but also like the idea of a 200 to possibly 300 yard capable cartridge and rifle. Bottom line, I'm leaning toward either a 94 or 336 with the Marlin being scoped with a true 1x4 illuminated reticle and the 94 with a full aperture ghost ring sight. What do you think about the LEVERevolution load for distance and plenty of 150 or 170 for general purpose? I like how you can load additional loose rounds as you may need them. I would consider adding a 357 to the cabinet if they are as dependable feeding enough to "bet your life on?" I like the increased capacity but fear reliability due to rim's. Yes I know the 30-30 is a rimmed cartridge but never heard of feeding reliability issues. Thoughts? If I make it through these exciting times intact financially and physically I'm planning on picking up one of the Marlin Black line in 30/30. I think that would be a decent choice and it would work with my existing 30 cal suppressors. |
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Posted: 4/19/2020 10:34:38 PM EDT
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What butt cuff is that?
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Posted: 4/20/2020 12:57:01 AM EDT
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I would have zero issues with using my Marlin 1894c .357 magnum for defensive purposes. It is compact and handy, carries a decent supply of ammo on board, has low recoil and functions reliably. With the American Eagle 158 grain JSP loads I use in it, it has proven quite lethal against whitetails. And for anyone who has seen what this load does from a carbine length barrel in ballistic gelatin, it becomes obvious that it would work quite well on two legged predators too.
 .357 mag carbine gel test: American Eagle 158 gr JSP It doesn't get much more ideal than that. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 6:17:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would have zero issues with using my Marlin 1894c .357 magnum for defensive purposes. It is compact and handy, carries a decent supply of ammo on board, has low recoil and functions reliably. With the American Eagle 158 grain JSP loads I use in it, it has proven quite lethal against whitetails. And for anyone who has seen what this load does from a carbine length barrel in ballistic gelatin, it becomes obvious that it would work quite well on two legged predators too.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dMXKHUxjgQIt doesn't get much more ideal than that. Pretty much ideal. I wish it expanded a tiny bit more in handguns. |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 11:54:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty much ideal. I wish it expanded a tiny bit more in handguns. Is 0.6" diameter not big enough. There are many 158 gr handgun ammo choices any one of which will reach 0.6". Lucky Gunner test results for 357. |
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Posted: 4/28/2020 3:59:34 AM EDT
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30/30 because I prefer my rifles to be shooting rifle rounds.
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Posted: 4/29/2020 6:54:54 PM EDT
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 Lever Action Rifles: .30-30 vs .44 Magnum  357 Magnum vs 44 Magnum Carbines FWIW I have a Marlin 336 .30-30 with an old Redfield 1-5 (I think) and a Rossi 92 .357 with plane Jane irons. I love the Rossi, love the .357 for several reasons. It’s more than adequate for anything I’m likely to shoot, uses less powder for reloads, costs less than 44, can use .38s for fun, low recoil. .30-30 gives more power and is a classic cartridge. I plan to replace the Redfield with something illuminated, maybe a Vbrite. |
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Posted: 4/30/2020 9:26:00 AM EDT
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Quoted: If you change out the ejector spring (to a lighter one) on a Rossi R92 it will help eliminate the feeding issues. With the factory spring the ejector acts as a solid mass and will not give in order for the feed geometry to be flexible enough for different COAL. The only spring I've messed with is my mag spring. Cut a few inches off. Quoted: Here are some pics of 2 bullets. A 140gr xtp loaded over 9gr unique. One fired from a 2.75" m66 the other from a 20" M92. The more expanded one is from the rifle. Both shot into water. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/433221/20200305_124403_jpg-1303310.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/433221/20200305_124411_jpg-1303311.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/433221/20200305_125501_jpg-1303313.JPG That looks like a great compromise bullet! What speeds are u getting? I'm on the hunt for the Goldie Locks round. One that will do Ok in my 640 & not blow up when used in my carbine. Right now I'm using 158gr XTP FP. |
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Posted: 5/1/2020 3:10:41 PM EDT
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I didn't cut the factory ejector spring, simply replaced it with a generic one from a spring assortment.
My ejection is much weaker, with the rounds falling quite close to the gun. But for a handloader it's kinda nice. For a combat gun I'd probably go a tiny bit stiffer. |
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Posted: 5/1/2020 6:43:06 PM EDT
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Henry long ranger or similar older designs would be easy to extend the magazine to whatever capacity you want if you want 5.56 or whatever bottleneck rifle cartridge you can imagine.
There is an AR that has a always-on bolt catch with a bolt release on the foregrip. Fire a shot and the bolt is held open. You press the bolt release conveniently located under your hand on the foregrip to chamber a new round. As close to semi-auto as you can get without crossing the line. |
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