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Posted: 10/21/2017 8:03:53 PM EDT

friend of mine asked me if I was interested in this rifle. We haven't settled on a price yet until I get my hands on it.
All he knows is it is a Marlin 1895 in 44 magnum. I thought it wouldn't be very old but the curved butt and brass butt plate have me wondering.
Based on these crappy pics..anyone have an idea how old it is and possible dollar value?

Posted: 10/21/2017 8:08:57 PM EDT

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First, its not an 1895, its a 1894....and by the looks of it, it ain't a 44Mag. either, I'd bet the barrel reads something like "44WCF"...which is a 44-40...check the bore very closely, its probably a black powder era rifle..make sure the bore is bright and the rifling is sharp... good luck. Shrps74

Posted: 10/21/2017 8:23:20 PM EDT

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First, its not an 1895, its a 1894....and by the looks of it, it ain't a 44Mag. either, I'd bet the barrel reads something like "44WCF"...which is a 44-40...check the bore very closely, its probably a black powder era rifle..make sure the bore is bright and the rifling is sharp... good luck. Shrps74

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ks..he isn't much into firearms so the calibre mistake isn't surprising.
I'm actually not overly concerned with the condition of the bore as I don't plan on shooting it.
If it is in good condition that is a plus.
I have my Grandfathers model 94 and I picked up a vintage model 99 in pristine condition. Neither of which have been drilled and tapped for a scope.
I want a marlin for my small collection. I love lever guns..

Posted: 10/28/2017 1:46:11 PM EDT

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so i had a look at it today.
bore is nice and bright, a wee bit of pitting. rifling is nice.
serial # is 4XXXX.
Has the optional long range peep site.
Octagon barrel.
We settled on $650.

Posted: 12/31/2017 10:31:33 AM EDT

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brought her home yesterday.

Posted: 12/31/2017 2:48:56 PM EDT

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Nice! Looks like it's in pretty good shape.

Posted: 12/31/2017 4:49:09 PM EDT

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It is.. action is tight and smooth. stock is in remarkable shape considering it's age.
I'm very happy with it.

Posted: 1/1/2018 9:03:22 AM EDT

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You did great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Probably a 60%+ gun in 44 WCF and tang sight as an option ................. you add it up: $1,200+

S/N 40000-50000 - Link ............... - says 1890-91 which makes no sense - not broken down by model.

Blue Book:

.25-20 WCF, .32-20 WCF, .38-40 WCF, or .44-40 WCF cal., case colored receiver, 10 shot tube mag., 24 in. round or octagon barrel, straight or pistol grip stock. Mfg. 1894-1934.

Grading: 100% 98% 95% 90% 80% 70% 60% 50% 40% 30% 20% 10%
Value: N/A N/A $3,650 $2,500 $2,000 $1,450 $1,000 $750 $600 $500 $400 $350

Add 25% for saddle ring carbine.
Add 10% for .44-40 WCF cal.
Add 40% for Baby Carbine with 18 in. barrel and 1/2 mag.
Add 15%-20% for takedown model, depending on condition.

Factory special orders/features will add premiums, depending on the desirability of each option and the gun's original condition factor.

Later production guns were marked "Model ´94" and have less value. This model was also available in both a Carbine and Musket variation.

Posted: 1/1/2018 10:41:39 AM EDT

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thanks for the info.
Now..important question..is todays 44-40 ammo okay to feed this old girl?
Now that I have it..I would like to take it to the range at least once.

Posted: 1/1/2018 11:19:12 AM EDT

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thanks for the info.
Now..important question..is todays 44-40 ammo okay to feed this old girl?
Now that I have it..I would like to take it to the range at least once.

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I have multiple pre-1899 Winchester lever-guns in 38 WCF/44 WCF and use Black Hills and Ultramax "Cowboy Action Ammo".

Made for older guns.

Readily available.

Posted: 1/1/2018 11:27:11 AM EDT

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again..tks for the info.

ETA..what is strange regarding the serial #?

Posted: 1/1/2018 11:38:00 AM EDT

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again..tks for the info.

ETA..what is strange regarding the serial #?

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They don't break it down by model.

Serial numbers for various models overlap (i.e. 45678 is S/N for both an 1894 and 1895). I know it's that way with both Colt and Winchester.

They state that in the fine print in the link and makes it sort of worthless.

"Note that records are chaotic as all models were numbered in a single serial number range, and numbers are often duplicated, and the dates recorded are apparently shipping dates, not dates of manufacture."

Posted: 1/1/2018 11:39:26 AM EDT

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ah. so mine may not be an 1890 rifle then..

Posted: 1/1/2018 11:41:00 AM EDT

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Heck no.

Marlin 1894's were made from 1894 to 1934.

It is an 1894? They made models 1881, 1888, 1889, 1891, 1892, 1893, 1894, 1895 and 1897.

Posted: 1/1/2018 11:41:22 AM EDT

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Double tap .....................

Posted: 1/1/2018 12:06:08 PM EDT

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Heck no.

Marlin 1894's were made from 1894 to 1934.

It is an 1894? They made models 1881, 1888, 1889, 1891, 1892, 1893, 1894, 1895 and 1897.

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ah. so mine may not be an 1890 rifle then..

Heck no.

Marlin 1894's were made from 1894 to 1934.

It is an 1894? They made models 1881, 1888, 1889, 1891, 1892, 1893, 1894, 1895 and 1897.

lol. I have no idea now. any way to tell?

Posted: 1/1/2018 12:34:44 PM EDT

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lol. I have no idea now. any way to tell?

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Winchester 1873 ....

Marlin 1893 .............

Posted: 1/1/2018 1:15:10 PM EDT

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well I guess I need to remove the peep sight. I just noticed it has a fold down very small aperture in it.
Plus the stud that mounts it to the base has a loop in it like it is suppose to have a ring in it..

Posted: 1/2/2018 1:05:33 PM EDT

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so I removed the read sight and there are no roll marks under it.
all it has is the company name and patent dates on the top of the barrel, Marlin Safety on the top of the receiver, 44W on the barrel right at the chamber and the serial #.

Posted: 1/2/2018 1:42:01 PM EDT

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so I removed the read sight and there are no roll marks under it.
all it has is the company name and patent dates on the top of the barrel, Marlin Safety on the top of the receiver, 44W on the barrel right at the chamber and the serial #.

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Interesting .......

Maybe someone with Marlin expertise can give some insight.

Posted: 1/2/2018 2:16:59 PM EDT

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Here is my very small lever collection. lol
The Winchester was my grandfathers and is my "never ever sell" gun.
drfcolt..how are you with Savage dates of manufacture? I did some googling and the info is all over the map.

Posted: 1/2/2018 3:07:24 PM EDT

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Here is my very small lever collection. lol
The Winchester was my grandfathers and is my "never ever sell" gun.
drfcolt..how are you with Savage dates of manufacture? I did some googling and the info is all over the map.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/135/20180102_132136_1_-408889.jpg

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Google is all I know, too.

Here's what I use for Winchester ..........

And Colt ................

The Colt look-up gives multiple answers if the S/N applies to multiple guns ........ try 81064.

Posted: 1/2/2018 5:30:54 PM EDT

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my model 94 was born in 49.

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