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Posted: 11/25/2012 12:14:08 PM EDT
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My brother bought a .357 recently. When you close the action, the doesn't close completely unless you hold it closed. It won't fire unless you squeeze the lever slightly.
I can't tell if this is intentional or is there a problem. Anyone know? |
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Maybe, depending on the degree of "open" we're talking about here.
The Model 94 was designed by John Browning and he had a thing for grip safeties. You'll note a small pin behind the trigger where the loop for the lever starts. That pin is depressed by the last 1/8" of lever movement and you have to depress it against some spring pressure. That spring pressure ensures that when you are not gripping the rifle, the lever pushes back out that 1/8" and activates the grip safety. It's a nice feature, especially on a rifle that might be pushed into a scabbard as it won't fire if the trigger is accidentally pulled and it's a back up to the half cock notch on the hammer. With that said, the bolt itself should go fully into battery and the lever should only have that last 1/8" of movement left in it. If the bolt and locking lug are not going fully into battery and/or require pressure to stay there, you have a problem. |
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Maybe, depending on the degree of "open" we're talking about here. The Model 94 was designed by John Browning and he had a thing for grip safeties. You'll note a small pin behind the trigger where the loop for the lever starts. That pin is depressed by the last 1/8" of lever movement and you have to depress it against some spring pressure. That spring pressure ensures that when you are not gripping the rifle, the lever pushes back out that 1/8" and activates the grip safety. It's a nice feature, especially on a rifle that might be pushed into a scabbard as it won't fire if the trigger is accidentally pulled and it's a back up to the half cock notch on the hammer. With that said, the bolt itself should go fully into battery and the lever should only have that last 1/8" of movement left in it. If the bolt and locking lug are not going fully into battery and/or require pressure to stay there, you have a problem. Thanks to both of you. I was pretty sure that was the correct answer. My brother showed it to someone else and he was freaking out about it, like it was unsafe. It seemed to close nicely and I could see that it was safe. |
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I wonder if he'd freak out with a 1911 Colt? Same grip safety concept, slightly different application.
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Maybe, depending on the degree of "open" we're talking about here. The Model 94 was designed by John Browning and he had a thing for grip safeties. You'll note a small pin behind the trigger where the loop for the lever starts. That pin is depressed by the last 1/8" of lever movement and you have to depress it against some spring pressure. That spring pressure ensures that when you are not gripping the rifle, the lever pushes back out that 1/8" and activates the grip safety. It's a nice feature, especially on a rifle that might be pushed into a scabbard as it won't fire if the trigger is accidentally pulled and it's a back up to the half cock notch on the hammer. With that said, the bolt itself should go fully into battery and the lever should only have that last 1/8" of movement left in it. If the bolt and locking lug are not going fully into battery and/or require pressure to stay there, you have a problem. Thanks to both of you. I was pretty sure that was the correct answer. My brother showed it to someone else and he was freaking out about it, like it was unsafe. It seemed to close nicely and I could see that it was safe. |
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