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1/18/2010 12:03:35 PM EDT
Pugsli's sidesaddle prototype, Comments?

1/18/2010 12:56:44 PM EDT
[#1]
The bullets are upside down.

1/18/2010 1:22:55 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
The bullets are upside down.



Im finding that reaching under with my strong side is easier than over the top.
1/18/2010 3:43:20 PM EDT
[#3]
Very interesting.
1/18/2010 3:59:08 PM EDT
[#4]
That is a nice looking piece of work. I'm not really into the tactical lever action look though. If I was, I'd be all over that.
1/18/2010 7:32:05 PM EDT
[#5]
Odd, yet kind of cool at the same time.    I dont know what kind of wild situation would entail needing more than 5 or 6 up the tube though ,  but it looks good
1/18/2010 7:58:30 PM EDT
[#6]
Maybe you are much more talented than me, but I sure as hell can't push rounds into the loading gate of my 336 with my left hand, especially if shouldered...

So, if you have to take your right hand off of the rifle, why not just use a bullet carrier on the stock?

- AG
1/19/2010 3:59:27 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Maybe you are much more talented than me, but I sure as hell can't push rounds into the loading gate of my 336 with my left hand, especially if shouldered...

So, if you have to take your right hand off of the rifle, why not just use a bullet carrier on the stock?

- AG


Talented is something Ive never been accused of...
I figure you'd use the saddle the same as a shotgun side saddle,.. Ive been thought to single load from the saddle, that is action open,single load a round.  From shouldered rotate firearm 90deg to the left so that the loading port is up, With the strong hand remove single round and drop it in the action. Thats the way Ive always done switch to slug drills anyway.  
The whole levergun sidesaddle is/was mainly an exercise to see if it was possible.
1/19/2010 4:34:15 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:
The bullets are upside down.



Im finding that reaching under with my strong side is easier than over the top.


I can understand rolling the rifle with its left side facing down, then reaching underneath to pull each cartridge out for shoving into the loading gate.  But being a boots and suspenders type when things need to work absolutely, I would like to see a little shelf under the cartridges to keep them from falling out due to gravity and bumps.

I would have to handle the gun for a half day or so to know for sure, but I have to wonder whether having the cartridges in my field of view would bother me, whether they would be in the way for using alternate holds on the gun while carrying, and whether the cartridges would bother me when I have the rifle cradled in the crook of my left elbow.

But, you completed the project and now you can answer those questions.

Now make a butt stock cartridge trap.

1/19/2010 5:10:20 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
The bullets are upside down.



Im finding that reaching under with my strong side is easier than over the top.


I can understand rolling the rifle with its left side facing down, then reaching underneath to pull each cartridge out for shoving into the loading gate.  But being a boots and suspenders type when things need to work absolutely, I would like to see a little shelf under the cartridges to keep them from falling out due to gravity and bumps.

I would have to handle the gun for a half day or so to know for sure, but I have to wonder whether having the cartridges in my field of view would bother me, whether they would be in the way for using alternate holds on the gun while carrying, and whether the cartridges would bother me when I have the rifle cradled in the crook of my left elbow.

But, you completed the project and now you can answer those questions.

Now make a butt stock cartridge trap.



Understood, Hence the "Prototype" nomenclature. May not be for everyone,heck it may not even be for me, time will tell. Im sure Ill either modify it 12 more times or throw it away in the end. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
Cartridge trap? interesting......How about side sling adapters for field carry?

1/19/2010 10:12:12 AM EDT
[#10]
What are you using to provide tension? Jamming the ammo in there hard enough to prevent it from falling out while firing / carrying the rifle could result in not being able to get the rounds out if you need them in a hurry. Are you using some kind of neoprene or urethane insert to provide a reasonable ammount of friction?

Edit to add: Is the ammo carrier itself made of a resilient material rather than aluminum alloy?
1/19/2010 4:22:42 PM EDT
[#11]
Looks awesome, Underdog.
1/19/2010 4:43:10 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
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Cartridge trap? interesting......How about side sling adapters for field carry?
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh300/enis75/DSC_0032-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh300/enis75/DSC_0033.jpg


I like those parts.

How about a magazine tube lying more or less alongside the right hand side of the forearm all the way to the end of the existing magazine?

Use a latch at the aft end to hold the cartridges in, yet they're close to the loading gate when needed.  Submerge the aft end into the forearm to reduce the profile.

Might be a little weird, but no worse than corn cob forearms on AR's.

1/20/2010 8:02:26 PM EDT
[#13]
I'd love to get some info on how to mount that swivel/stud  on the fron barell band like you did.  Thanks again.
Eric
1/21/2010 4:39:41 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
I'd love to get some info on how to mount that swivel/stud  on the fron barell band like you did.  Thanks again.
Eric


Simply an Unclemikes stud turned and threaded,  I have the OAL and thread notes at work and will edit this post tomorrow to include those specs you require.
1/22/2010 11:20:03 AM EDT
[#15]
ANy full photos of the rifle and it's set up?
2/21/2010 6:25:25 PM EDT
[#16]
That's awesome. I'm getting ready to start a 336 project. I would love to know how you did the side saddle. The only thing I'd like to see is for it to hold a few more rounds. My 336 is one of the newer models that has the BS safety on it. Would that be a problem with your setup? The side sling mounts are great too.
3/29/2010 9:47:55 AM EDT
[#17]
So any new info on this setup? I really wanna add the sidesaddle and side sling studs as part of my 336 project. Did you make the saddle yourself? Out of what material? Is it something you could make without a mill? or would one of the drill press milling tables be sufficient (I can actually afford one of those right now)? What are you using for cartridge retention? Is it a mesa tactical type of setup? Any info please?
4/7/2010 4:37:45 PM EDT
[#18]
I had a $300 Marlin 1895H in 45LC from Big 5 Sporting Goods several years ago and mounted an off-the-shelf threaded sling stud through the barrel band, replacing the factory screw and then used the wood screw version to side mount the other end on the buttstock.
Set No. 1001-2 (1")
Set No. 1001-3 (1 1/4")
One of those 2, cant recall which, been too many years. I always wanted to mount a rail section onthe opposite side for mounting a light but never got around to it before I traded it. HTH

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