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5/8/2016 7:32:27 AM EDT
Short story, we installed a security system around our garage because of some issues with a potential stalking neighbor (he stood behind wife's car in driveway and arms crossed watched her in her car, he also walks around our property at night-trail cams)

I bought an Alibi setup with 4 analog cams on an 8 camera system. I mounted the DVR in the garage since almost all the cams will be mounted on a detached garage. Problem is my main router is in the house with no hardline internet to the garage, was going to run 150 feet of line but went with a NetGear Wifi extender. My problem now is seeing the DVR over the network.

I am assuming I need to static IP the DVR and port forward to my main router? I also don't see my DVR on the extender network :(

Any tips or places one should go to learn proper setup. I did download 2 documents from SuperCircuits.Com, the place we bought from and the manuals are like 180 pages each, so reading them, didn't know if others had a similar setup and how they implemented.

Thanks
5/8/2016 8:39:30 AM EDT
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What is the model number of your network extender and your Alibi DVR?

Does the DVR have its own built-in WiFi, or are you connecting it to the network extender via an ethernet cable?

I'm just guessing because I don't have any details of what your hookup looks like, but offhand I don't see why you would need to "static IP the DVR and port forward to my main router".

I'd start with some basic troubleshooting steps first.

For example, if you have a WiFi tablet or smartphone, can you access your main network through the network extender when you're in your garage?

If you temporarily set up the DVR back in your house, does it get assigned a DHCP network address and can you access it on your home network?







5/8/2016 9:11:54 AM EDT
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I have the Alibi ALI-HVR3008H and a Netgear EX6200.

No Wifi on the DVR, but I setup the Netgear as an extender, I can log onto the NetGear from my phone and Mac desktop and surf the web, so I have internet capability.

The DVR is plugged in via ethernet.

I actually tried to access the DVR from the Wifi Extender with no luck. I then used the device manager on the Extender to see what devices it saw, it only recognized my Mac.

I am thinking I have something not set right or opened on the Alibi. I have some network experience but that was almost 20 years ago and never kept up on it so I remember bits and pieces of the process, plus at 55+ YO I am not as smart as I used to be.

I even downloaded the mobile app and was hoping if I logged in via the Extender network that my phone app would discover the Alibi. But no luck.

If you have other pointers I will try them. Reading the manual they seem to really push static IP and portforwarding and using SimpleDNS (I assume for accessing via Internet) which would be nice to keep an eye on the drive when we are away from home.

I am loving the clarity of the cameras and the fact that I have 100% coverage of the area I need to monitor with just 4 cameras.

5/8/2016 9:56:41 AM EDT
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Yes, the static IP and port forwarding would be for accessing the DVR from the Internet.

But before doing that IMHO you should first solve the problem of accessing the DVR within your own home network.

I'm not sure whether you addressed my question about being able to access the DVR if you set it up inside your home, directly wired to your home network.



5/8/2016 10:18:09 AM EDT
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You could use a static IP address on the DVR, and maybe that would simplify things.

If you have your Mac running on the extender, then it would be a good idea to check its IP configuration - what is its IP address and the gateway address that it chose?

(I'm only an infrequent Mac user so I don't know offhand how to find that info, but it should be available from a network details page).

With that info, you should be able to set up the gateway info in your DVR network setup screen, and if you'd like, choose a static IP address that will be within the proper network segment that will work with the extender.


5/8/2016 10:18:44 AM EDT
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Yes, the static IP and port forwarding would be for accessing the DVR from the Internet.

But before doing that IMHO you should first solve the problem of accessing the DVR within your own home network.

I'm not sure whether you addressed my question about being able to access the DVR if you set it up inside your home, directly wired to your home network.



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Sorry, I did in a round about way. Answer is no I can't. So I am thinking I have an issue with either an IP block mismatch? or haven't turned on or configured the DVR to be on the network. The manual is pretty weak on the network setup.

I really want to be able to view and manage the DVR from the house on our internal network, accessing from the web is a great/neat idea, but not sure if I really need that yet, though have had an issue with strangeness from a neighbor staring at wife on edge of our driveway.

I need to go out to the garage with my laptop and see if I can do some network tracing. Sadly it's a Chromebook so my options to test will be minimal.
5/8/2016 10:23:01 AM EDT
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You could use a static IP address on the DVR, and maybe that would simplify things.

If you have your Mac running on the extender, then it would be a good idea to check its IP configuration - what is its IP address and the gateway address that it chose?

(I'm only an infrequent Mac user so I don't know offhand how to find that info, but it should be available from a network details page).

With that info, you should be able to set up the gateway info in your DVR network setup screen, and if you'd like, choose a static IP address that will be within the proper network segment that will work with the extender.


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Thanks, that is sort of my question/concern, which I am googling, when you have a primary router/wifi and you add another router the IP block stays the same, but if you add an extender, not sure if it then takes on a new network/subnet?

I think my main issue is a misconfigured DVR talking to the Extender.
5/8/2016 10:37:05 AM EDT
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Yes, I'm unsure of that, too - in fact it might depend on the specific network extender's implementation.

That's why it's probably simplest if you can get a device working thru the extender via DHCP to just look at the configuration that it ended up with, and use that as a guide.

But if you haven't yet gotten the DVR working on your home network, maybe you should try doing that first, again creating a network configuration for the DVR that looks similar to the configuration of one of your devices that is working on your home network.



5/8/2016 10:51:15 AM EDT
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Thanks, my journey is now out to the garage and also write down/copy what the config looks like on the Mac when on the Extender network.

I am betting it's one of those head-slap moments and all will fly.

I do appreciate the tips.
5/10/2016 10:15:49 AM EDT
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Update

I was (I knew it was a headslap) plugged in the wrong Ethernet port on the Extender. I did a static IP. I was able to get the mobile app to work as well then.

Looks like though for a viable bit-rate I am going to have to hardline it.

My other issue is being on a Mac the proper plug-in's aren't there, after some time researching I was able to get it to work on a Firefox and Safari browser, seems google blocks the right codec/plugin under Chrome.
5/11/2016 8:16:56 AM EDT
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What speeds are you getting across that bridge?
5/11/2016 9:57:59 AM EDT
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I am getting 2-3 bars on the wifi Extender to the inhouse wifi, I have't done a speed test yet. What would I do to speed test an internal network? Traceroute?

The Android app is very quick and has no issues giving me real-time viewing. The iMac in the house I could only get Safari and Firefox to work with the plug-in, looks like Chrome won't allow questionable extensions, though there looks to be a hack. From online reading folks claim the Chrome browser is better on the refresh rates
5/11/2016 10:19:55 AM EDT
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I am getting 2-3 bars on the wifi Extender to the inhouse wifi, I have't done a speed test yet. What would I do to speed test an internal network? Traceroute?

The Android app is very quick and has no issues giving me real-time viewing. The iMac in the house I could only get Safari and Firefox to work with the plug-in, looks like Chrome won't allow questionable extensions, though there looks to be a hack. From online reading folks claim the Chrome browser is better on the refresh rates
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I am getting 2-3 bars on the wifi Extender to the inhouse wifi, I have't done a speed test yet. What would I do to speed test an internal network? Traceroute?

The Android app is very quick and has no issues giving me real-time viewing. The iMac in the house I could only get Safari and Firefox to work with the plug-in, looks like Chrome won't allow questionable extensions, though there looks to be a hack. From online reading folks claim the Chrome browser is better on the refresh rates


You can do the three-finger-salute (CTRL-ALT-DEL) and get to the task manager... then select the "Networking" tab to see how much you're using to stream from that DVR.  

5/11/2016 11:16:37 AM EDT
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You can do the three-finger-salute (CTRL-ALT-DEL) and get to the task manager... then select the "Networking" tab to see how much you're using to stream from that DVR.  

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I am getting 2-3 bars on the wifi Extender to the inhouse wifi, I have't done a speed test yet. What would I do to speed test an internal network? Traceroute?

The Android app is very quick and has no issues giving me real-time viewing. The iMac in the house I could only get Safari and Firefox to work with the plug-in, looks like Chrome won't allow questionable extensions, though there looks to be a hack. From online reading folks claim the Chrome browser is better on the refresh rates


You can do the three-finger-salute (CTRL-ALT-DEL) and get to the task manager... then select the "Networking" tab to see how much you're using to stream from that DVR.  



Sitting on a Mac, though I do have a windows laptop running XP I use to program radios. I will see what I get when I get home today.

Thanks
5/11/2016 4:35:36 PM EDT
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Sitting on a Mac, though I do have a windows laptop running XP I use to program radios. I will see what I get when I get home today.

Thanks
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What speeds are you getting across that bridge?


I am getting 2-3 bars on the wifi Extender to the inhouse wifi, I have't done a speed test yet. What would I do to speed test an internal network? Traceroute?

The Android app is very quick and has no issues giving me real-time viewing. The iMac in the house I could only get Safari and Firefox to work with the plug-in, looks like Chrome won't allow questionable extensions, though there looks to be a hack. From online reading folks claim the Chrome browser is better on the refresh rates


You can do the three-finger-salute (CTRL-ALT-DEL) and get to the task manager... then select the "Networking" tab to see how much you're using to stream from that DVR.  



Sitting on a Mac, though I do have a windows laptop running XP I use to program radios. I will see what I get when I get home today.

Thanks


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